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  1. From:
    http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/9169.0.html

    Heras might not attend EPO test
    Roberto Heras still hasn't decided whether he'll witness his follow-up
    doping test next week, but his attorney said that the four-time Vuelta
    a España champion's presence isn't necessarily required.

    No [censored] Sherlock, but if they are smart they make damn sure that they
    have an expert scientist who's used to testifying in court there to
    monitor the whole testing procedure and if he isn't allowed to monitor
    it that tells gives them a card to play at an appeal. Doesn't matter
    one bit if an ignorant racer is there to watch the tests, but his
    professional opinion isn't going to mean [censored] in any appeal. Sounds
    like the lawyer is experienced enough with exactly this type of case to
    cover all the bases though. Thing is, if the are following the new 3
    labs procedure etc...and it's positive Heras is screwed unless he can
    disprove the test or come up with something really good.
    The B comes in positive I'd put his chances at about .1% if that.
    Bill C

  2. Maybe his evil living twin is out to get him and he snuck his EPO laden
    sample to discredit Heras' fine sporting achievements...

  3. Since you're so knowledgeable perhaps you can explain to us how the EPO
    tests work and how they can determine the difference between the always
    present naturally occuring EPO and the human recombinent (real) EPO?

    And while you're at it explain the science behind the detection
    technique used.

  4. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Since you're so knowledgeable perhaps you can explain to us how the EPO
    tests work and how they can determine the difference between the always
    present naturally occuring EPO and the human recombinent (real) EPO?

    And while you're at it explain the science behind the detection
    technique used.

    Ha! He can't! So the test is unreliable! You win, Tom!

  5. Quoted message said:

    Maybe his evil living twin is out to get him and he snuck his EPO laden
    sample to discredit Heras' fine sporting achievements...

    Looks like he has a good lawyer though:
    http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/9173.0.html

    Under testing rules, two witnesses are allowed to watch laboratory
    technicians. Heras wanted to go, but Garriga talked him out of it. In
    his place will be an Italian whom Garrigo only identified a chemist
    with the University of Florence that he's worked with before.

    "Roberto really wanted to be there, but we convinced him it's
    preferable that someone is there who can support something," he said.
    "He has not much to do there at all."

    Bill C

  6. Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:
    Quoted message said:

    And while you're at it explain the science behind the detection
    technique used.

    Ha! He can't! So the test is unreliable! You win, Tom!

    A careful combination of Faith and Intelligent Design. Ya got a
    probelm with that?

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  7. Jon, please don't make fun of a serious point - the tests MAY be good
    and they MAY NOT be. The fact is that too much of the process is
    hidden.

    And it doesn't help at all if people like excel who know absolutely
    nothing about it are making stupid comments.

    And you're smart enough to know this as well.

  8. Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:

    "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Since you're so knowledgeable perhaps you can explain to us how the EPO
    tests work and how they can determine the difference between the always
    present naturally occuring EPO and the human recombinent (real) EPO?

    And while you're at it explain the science behind the detection
    technique used.

    Ha! He can't! So the test is unreliable! You win, Tom!

    LMAO. It's always the same fking thing isn't it?

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