Should be fun to watch this play out. Wonder how many players are
going to quietly slip into rehab this winter? The sad thing is that
this has been public knowledge for at least 30 years. The Yankees used
to keep a bowl full of amphetamines on a table in the trainers room for
the players. That was reported by both the press, and Yankee players in
the 70s. Goes a long way to making Benjo's point that it's only a very
loud small minority that actually care about doping in sport. And as we
all know "he who yells loudest, gets the most attention" despite what
the majority may want. If it hadn't been for a handfull of parents and
a couple of Congress critters none of this would've happened, and noone
in baseball is really disputing this. Despite all the hype, I really
haven't seen any huge groundswell at the grass roots level for doing
anything about doping, certainly not enough for high schools to divert
money for testing or any of that stuff. With all the other headaches on
the local level this is so far down the priorities list it's almost
invisible as far as I can tell.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2005/11/16/baseball_adds_some_muscle/
Bill C
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Bill C said:
Should be fun to watch this play out. Wonder how many players are
going to quietly slip into rehab this winter? The sad thing is that
this has been public knowledge for at least 30 years. The Yankees used
to keep a bowl full of amphetamines on a table in the trainers room for
the players. That was reported by both the press, and Yankee players in
the 70s. Goes a long way to making Benjo's point that it's only a very
loud small minority that actually care about doping in sport. And as we
all know "he who yells loudest, gets the most attention" despite what
the majority may want. If it hadn't been for a handfull of parents and
a couple of Congress critters none of this would've happened, and noone
in baseball is really disputing this. Despite all the hype, I really
haven't seen any huge groundswell at the grass roots level for doing
anything about doping, certainly not enough for high schools to divert
money for testing or any of that stuff. With all the other headaches on
the local level this is so far down the priorities list it's almost
invisible as far as I can tell.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2005/11/16/baseball_adds_some_muscle/
Bill C
Sorry for the reg bit. I thought I'd found a link around it.
Bill C -
I like the bit Baseball's commissioner claiming the testing policy was
a model for all professional sports...Once again, Pro cycling is
relegated to a hobby. No, I know he was probably referring to US Pro
sports, just like they understand they're not really World Champions
because only North American teams play. Seriously, though, for all
that is bad with cycling, its an excellent model that would never fly
in US pro sports. I also think its sad that our law makers have to
waste their time coming up with legislation. Hello, steroids are a
controlled substance and a felony if you get caught with them...unless
you make millions.CH
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My guess is that you will see NO statistical changes in baseball.
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I like the bit Baseball's commissioner claiming the testing policy was
a model for all professional sports...Once again, Pro cycling is
relegated to a hobby. No, I know he was probably referring to US Pro
sports, just like they understand they're not really World Champions
because only North American teams play. Seriously, though, for all
that is bad with cycling, its an excellent model that would never fly
in US pro sports. I also think its sad that our law makers have to
waste their time coming up with legislation. Hello, steroids are a
controlled substance and a felony if you get caught with them...unless
you make millions.CH
Who thought up the model that cycling uses? I don't think it was the UCI.
IIRC, the UCI was dragging it's feet last year in subscribing to the IOC
standards. There were claims of cycling's exclusion from the Athens Olympics
unless the UCI signed on. -
Tom Kunich said:
My guess is that you will see NO statistical changes in baseball.
People including quite a few of the players think the amphetamines ban
is going to have a bigger and more direct effect, especially on the
relief pitchers. Seems that popping a few greenies before going in late
in the game after sitting in the bullpen bored stiff for a couple of
hours has been standard practice. That's not going to be an option now.
Jittery Joes needs to get the MLB coffee contract, this could be a big
year.
Bill C
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