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  1. Hi,

    I'd just like to provide info on trolling. A certain person has been
    putting posts about it being good that cyclists get run over etc. This
    is bad for the group.

    A couple of points:

    * when you reply to this person, tempting as it may be, you push their
    thread up the rankings. This person wants exposure. Why not just get a
    decent newsreader and killfile people such as this?

    * the person in question is dumb enough to mail with consistent mail
    headers pointing back to an NTL account. you can use these to report
    the abuse of the account to NTL (which I have done in the above case).

    The link for NTL abuse reports is here:

    http://bbplus.ntlworld.com/NetReport/index.php

    Provide them with the person's IP address and message IDs.

    People may say this does not good but it takes 2 minutes and you have
    nothing to loose.

    Hope that helps. If not, just ignore me ;-)

    Cheers,

    Ben.

    --
    Registered Linux user number 339435

  2. Ben Fitzgerald said:

    I'd just like to provide info on trolling. A certain person has been
    putting posts about it being good that cyclists get run over etc. This
    is bad for the group.

    A troll can generate thought provoking debate and challenge
    conventional views.

    Ignore, killfile or respond as you feel appropriate. This is Usenet:
    trolls, flamers and mission posters are a part of it.

  3. Bertie Wiggins said:
    Ben Fitzgerald said:

    I'd just like to provide info on trolling. A certain person has been
    putting posts about it being good that cyclists get run over etc. This
    is bad for the group.

    A troll can generate thought provoking debate and challenge
    conventional views.

    Agreed.

    Quoted message said:

    Ignore, killfile or respond as you feel appropriate. This is Usenet:
    trolls, flamers and mission posters are a part of it.

    Yes, it's your choice. But there are people who can also be reported for
    abuse. Posting that you hope someone is gassed or blown up by a london tube
    bomb, talking about cutting off someone's balls, swearing, saying it's a good
    thing to hit cyclists (these are all from posts in the last 2 days, BTW) is
    not acceptable usage, in my book. Reporting them to their ISP is one course of
    action that is effective. If you are reporting someone for behaviour that +is+
    reasonable (i.e. you are wrong) the ISP should take your complaint with a pinch
    of salt.

    My post simply informs that IMHO replying to the thread to criticise the poster
    (and in this case people are critical of the poster) is not the best way to stop
    them.

    Cheers,

    Ben.

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    Registered Linux user number 339435

  4. Ben Fitzgerald said:

    Hi,

    I'd just like to provide info on trolling. A certain person has been
    putting posts about it being good that cyclists get run over etc. This
    is bad for the group.

    A couple of points:

    * when you reply to this person, tempting as it may be, you push their
    thread up the rankings. This person wants exposure. Why not just get a
    decent newsreader and killfile people such as this?

    If you really feel you must reply, something like this can be useful:

    ___________________
    /| /| | |
    ||__|| | Please do |
    / O O\__ NOT |
    / \ feed the |
    / \ \ trolls |
    / _ \ \ ______________|
    / |\____\ \ ||
    / | | | |\____/ ||
    / \|_|_|/ \ __||
    / / \ |____| ||
    / | | /| | --|
    | | |// |____ --|
    * _ | |_|_|_| | \-/
    *-- _--\ _ \ // |
    / _ \\ _ // | /
    * / \_ /- | - | |
    * ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________

    --
    Måns Rullgård
    [email hidden]

  5. Ben Fitzgerald said:

    Hope that helps. If not, just ignore me ;-)

    Troll!

    Jon

  6. Ben Fitzgerald said:

    Hi,

    I'd just like to provide info on trolling. A certain person has been
    putting posts about it being good that cyclists get run over etc. This
    is bad for the group.

    [snip good advice]

    The points you make are good ones. The best way of working against a troll
    is to ignore them.

    --
    ***My real address is m/ike at u/nmusic d/ot co dot u/k (removing /s)
    http://www.unmusic.co.uk - about me, music, geek sitcom etc.
    http://www.unmusic.co.uk/amh-s-faq.html - alt.music.home-studio

  7. killermike said:
    Ben Fitzgerald said:

    Hi,

    I'd just like to provide info on trolling. A certain person has been
    putting posts about it being good that cyclists get run over etc. This
    is bad for the group.

    [snip good advice]

    The points you make are good ones. The best way of working against a troll
    is to ignore them.

    Goats are the traditional remedy, IIRMHCAC.

    ...d

    [Fol di Rol no more]

  8. On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 20:38:44 +0000, Bertie Wiggins
    <[email hidden]> said in
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    A troll can generate thought provoking debate and challenge
    conventional views.

    LOL! When did that last happen? ;-)

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

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