I have been contacted by a local cyclist about advertising signs appearing on roundabouts in our locality. He has contacted the local council, who confirmed that they had approved the sign and were getting money for it.
Now all the guidelines that we have been able to find, including the council's own policy, says that signs which might distract drivers should not be allowed. The council's own policy says that "Only signs detailed in the DfT's Traffic signs and Regulations and General Direction's document or those which have the special permission of the DfT can be erected on the highway." They have obviously ignored this, and the Executive member for transport refuses to take any action.
As we all know only too well, roundabouts are dangerous enough for cyclists without distracting the drivers with adverts!
Has anyone else come across this one, and if so what happened? Did the council remove the signs?
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I have been contacted by a local cyclist about advertising signs appearing on roundabouts in our locality. He has contacted the local council, who confirmed that they had approved the sign and were getting money for it.
Now all the guidelines that we have been able to find, including the council's own policy, says that signs which might distract drivers should not be allowed. The council's own policy says that "Only signs detailed in the DfT's Traffic signs and Regulations and General Direction's document or those which have the special permission of the DfT can be erected on the highway." They have obviously ignored this, and the Executive member for transport refuses to take any action.
As we all know only too well, roundabouts are dangerous enough for cyclists without distracting the drivers with adverts!
Has anyone else come across this one, and if so what happened? Did the council remove the signs?
yes there have been a couple of huge signs near me (Reading area) recently, those triangular ones that are towed behind a car, have been meaning to complain to someone about it
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The idiots in Hull City Council have been putting advertising signs for local companies on their roundabouts for years and refuse point blank to remove them. The deal is that in return for the advertising the company pays for the upkeep of the flower beds on the roundabout.
Come on! What's the safety of a few cyclists matter when the council is getting a couple of extra quid in...
Time for direct action perhaps. Make up some boards reading 'Look right for bikes' or similar, tape them over the signs and get the local paper down for a photo opportunity!
In my experience with Essex CC they couldn't give a [insert worthless object... Prescott?] for the traffic signs regulations.[1]
FWIW the maximum size of lettering is 2"=50mm[From memory] if you can find any larger than this then _if you are prepared to slog through the procedures_ you can get the egg all over the faces of the council - more people should do this ... but the oily [censored] just carry on regardless..
[1] Easily available on the web BTW in case you didn't know
-- PETER FOX Not the same since the bridge building business collapsed [email hidden] www.eminent.demon.co.uk - Lots for cyclists
I have been contacted by a local cyclist about advertising signs appearing on roundabouts in our locality. He has contacted the local council, who confirmed that they had approved the sign and were getting money for it.
Now all the guidelines that we have been able to find, including the council's own policy, says that signs which might distract drivers should not be allowed. The council's own policy says that "Only signs detailed in the DfT's Traffic signs and Regulations and General Direction's document or those which have the special permission of the DfT can be erected on the highway." They have obviously ignored this, and the Executive member for transport refuses to take any action.
As we all know only too well, roundabouts are dangerous enough for cyclists without distracting the drivers with adverts!
Has anyone else come across this one, and if so what happened? Did the council remove the signs?
Hmm. We do this in Fareham. It saves the taxpayer a wad of cash and makes the roundabouts looks far better than the wastelands they once were. I'm in favour of both those positive outomes; reduces the impact of the car infrastructure and moves (some of) the cost away from the taxpayer who, in many cases is not even a car owner.
The signs we have are quite modest affairs and certainly unlikely to cause a problem. How big are yours?
Come on! What's the safety of a few cyclists matter when the council is getting a couple of extra quid in...
Time for direct action perhaps. Make up some boards reading 'Look right for bikes' or similar, tape them over the signs and get the local paper down for a photo opportunity!
The roundabout at the southern end of Gallows Hill in Warwick has just such a sign, reading something like "Look out for bicycles", yellow with black text if I'm not wrong. Pat on the back for the council who put it up.
Come on! What's the safety of a few cyclists matter when the council is getting a couple of extra quid in...
Time for direct action perhaps. Make up some boards reading 'Look right for bikes' or similar, tape them over the signs and get the local paper down for a photo opportunity!
The roundabout at the southern end of Gallows Hill in Warwick has just such a sign, reading something like "Look out for bicycles", yellow with black text if I'm not wrong. Pat on the back for the council who put it up.
we all know only too well, roundabouts are dangerous enough for cyclists without distracting the drivers with adverts!
Has anyone else come across this one, and if so what happened? Did the council remove the signs?
We used to have one from the local undertakers on one of our roundabouts. Killing two birds with one stone, perhaps - an advert and a way of drumming up trade too (to be fair, it was a slow and easy roundabout and I don't recall any near-misses on it, but OTOH I was following the main traffic flow).
The signs we have are quite modest affairs and certainly unlikely to cause a problem. How big are yours?
If they're big enough to be effective as ads they are big enough to distract drivers.......
But you could apply that argument to /any/ ad visible from the road. I'm happy to argue against [censored] ads on every flat surface blighting our streets but m arguement is based on aesthetics not road safety.
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The signs we have are quite modest affairs and certainly unlikely to cause a problem. How big are yours?
I would conservatively guess they are 10ft high and 20ft long.
Ye Gods. The net benefit is to the streetscene is pretty much zero if, in return for a nice flowerbed, you pay for it with a mega-ad.
Ours are about the size of a street name sign; about a metre and a bit long and 30 cm high.
We have plenty of those, and I dont have a problem with them, they are the 'this roundabout sponsored by xxxx' sort. The objectionable ones are the large triangular trailers towed behind a car or van and left on the cenre of the rbout for days or weeks.
-- Tumbleweed
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