rec.sport.unicycling · Public discussion

Yay for helmets.

Started by Skippii · · Last activity · 7 posts · 389 views

This thread is locked and is currently read-only.

Thread navigation

Jump through the discussion

Go to the original post, the replies on this page, or the latest preserved contribution.

Thread details

What we know about this thread

Original section
rec.sport.unicycling
Published
12 November 2005
Last activity
13 November 2005
Original author
Skippii
Posts
7
Discussion status
Public discussion
Total views
389
Views / 30 days
0

The navigation and discussion metadata provide context. Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Showing posts 1–7 of 7
Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Text size
  1. Yesterday, I had a fall that would have hurt a lot more if I hadn't had
    a helmet. As it was, I still had a bad headache for hours afterwards.
    I rarely wear helmets. I wasn't doing anything difficult at the time,
    just riding 1 footed.
    It seems like the rare occasions when I wear a helmet I hit my head. On
    the rare occasion I wear elbow pads, I land hard on my elbows. And I
    rarely wear wristguards, and earlier this week decided to, and needed
    them badly during a high-speed spill.
    So...either God is looking out for me and making me prepared for my
    upcoming crashes, or it's a big coincidence, or wearing protection
    makes me much more likely to fall and land on that part of my body.

    Second item: I've heard helmets don't work as well after you fall on
    them. Why is that? I could see it if there was a crack or some damage
    or something, but it seems just as sturdy as before. I fell backwards
    and hit the back of my head to the ground, but there doesn't seem to be
    any difference to the helmet.

    --
    Skippii

    One for the Road: Harrisonburg's Unicycle gang.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Skippii's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/7822
    View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/44665

  2. Skippii said:

    Yesterday, I had a fall that would have hurt a lot more if I hadn't had
    a helmet. As it was, I still had a bad headache for hours afterwards.
    I rarely wear helmets. I wasn't doing anything difficult at the time,
    just riding 1 footed.
    It seems like the rare occasions when I wear a helmet I hit my head. On
    the rare occasion I wear elbow pads, I land hard on my elbows. And I
    rarely wear wristguards, and earlier this week decided to, and needed
    them badly during a high-speed spill.
    So...either God is looking out for me and making me prepared for my
    upcoming crashes, or it's a big coincidence, or wearing protection
    makes me much more likely to fall and land on that part of my body.

    Second item: I've heard helmets don't work as well after you fall on
    them. Why is that? I could see it if there was a crack or some damage
    or something, but it seems just as sturdy as before. I fell backwards
    and hit the back of my head to the ground, but there doesn't seem to be
    any difference to the helmet.

    I always wear a helmet: safety first😄
    But yes, if you fall on your helmet, on that spot your helmet is
    damaged inside (the rubber or whatever is inside)

    --
    Probailer2
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Probailer2's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11034
    View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/44665

  3. Skippii said:

    Yesterday, I had a fall that would have hurt a lot more if I hadn't had
    a helmet.

    I like the way you worded that. After some of the recent
    helmet-effectiveness debates, your statement should be safe from
    detractors trying to tell you otherwise.

    Quoted message said:

    It seems like the rare occasions when I wear a helmet I hit my head. On
    the rare occasion I wear elbow pads, I land hard on my elbows. And I
    rarely wear wristguards, and earlier this week decided to, and needed
    them badly during a high-speed spill.

    You seem to be suject to some kind of reverse Murphy's Law. For me it
    was always the other way around. I first started using kneepads and
    gloves shortly after I started practicing for unicycle racing in 1980.
    It didn't take me long to figure those out. Once I had them, it seemed
    I never fell on them. But when I didn't have them, I seemed to get
    nailed every time.

    This can be the same only worse with seat belt use in cars...

    Quoted message said:

    I've heard helmets don't work as well after you fall on them. Why is
    that?

    First it depends on the helmet. Was this a regular bicycle helmet or a
    skate helmet? Skate helmets are designed for more multiple impacts.

    With a bike helmet, much of the force-absorbing part is the inner
    styrofoam. If you fall hard on it, the styrofoam gets deformed, or
    crushed, though there may be no indication of this from the outside.
    Another hard blow to that same part of the helmet could result in
    reduced shock absorbtion, which translates to the helmet not doing its
    job as well as intended. That's why it is often recommended to replace
    a regular bike helmet after a hard impact.

    You lucky equipment-wearer you.

    --
    johnfoss

    John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
    "jfoss" at "unicycling.com" -- www.unicycling.com

    "Read the rules!" -- 'IUF Rulebook'
    (http://www.unicycling.org/iuf/rulebook/) -- 'USA Rulebook'
    (http://www.unicycling.org/usa/competition/)
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    johnfoss's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/832
    View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/44665

  4. Skippii said:

    Second item: I've heard helmets don't work as well after you fall on
    them. Why is that? I could see it if there was a crack or some damage
    or something, but it seems just as sturdy as before. I fell backwards
    and hit the back of my head to the ground, but there doesn't seem to be
    any difference to the helmet.

    What kind of helmet do you use? The BMX/Skate style helmets are
    usually multi-impact, meaning that they can handle multiple impacts
    without needing to be replaced after every crash. Traditional bike
    style helmets are single impact. One good hit and they're done for.

    Traditional bike style helmets have a lightweight hard foam (kind of
    like styrofoam). The foam is designed to crush to absorb the impact
    energy. The foam can only crush once and after that it is no good.
    Even if you don't see any visible damage after a good hit the foam can
    still be damaged or cracked where you can't see. That nonvisible
    damage will lessen the helmets ability to protect you from the next hit
    and will mean that the helmet is no longer going to offer the
    protection you're wearing it for.

    --
    john_childs

    john_childs (att) hotmail (dott) com
    Gallery: http://gallery.unicyclist.com/john_childs
    'Unicycling Bookmark List' (http://backcountry.unicyclist.com/) ::
    'World Clock'
    (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=103,234,599,220,159,179,286,136,16,111,240,47,264)
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    john_childs's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/449
    View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/44665

  5. Yes, it was a normal bike helmet.
    I might replace it with a skate helmet--especially if I'm going to
    start riding trials.
    Thanks for the input.

    --
    Skippii

    One for the Road: Harrisonburg's Unicycle gang.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Skippii's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/7822
    View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/44665

  6. Not my accident thank god but check this one out. This is loosemoose's
    661 mulllet after jumping up in to the corner of a window frame, just
    think what that would have done to an unprotected head. He's the only
    one in our group who always wears a helmet, I think he may be on to
    something. Actually now i always wear a helmet for trials/street.

    +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
    |Filename: DCAM0004.JPG |
    |Download: http://www.unicyclist.com/attachment/10621 |
    +-------------------------------------------------------------------+

    --
    kington99

    Dave

    - what a thoroughly post-modern subversion of the cycling genre -
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    kington99's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/9417
    View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/44665

  7. It only takes one small lack of concentration to do something stupid. In
    the above case I was crankgrabbing a ledge very close to a wall (facing
    away from it) and when I snapped up to rubber I smacked the corner of
    an open window with my head. Pretty surprising, and I was loathe to try
    anything for a while after, I know when luck is against me. I did
    however learn 2 things: Helmets are ALWAYS good, whatever anyone says,
    and to always observe all aspects of your lines, however small and
    inconsequential. If you can work out what can go wrong beforehand,
    you're more capable of dealing with it if it does. If i'd looked at all
    aspects of that line, I'd have noticed the window was open &
    crankgrabbed 2ft further along the ledge to avoid it.

    You never stop learning.

    Loose.

    --
    Loosemoose

    Dave: "I had a particularly bad UPD & found I'd lost a shoe"
    Officially a  & ~ expert.

    _no1_quote_of_crawley_2005:_
    Leigh: "Where's Trevor"
    Baz: "I think he's upstairs, balancing The Bishop"
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Loosemoose's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/6326
    View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/44665

Active in the last 60 minutes

Active in this thread

0 users · 0 guests ·0 bots ·0 total

No signed-in users are active right now.

No known search crawlers active right now.