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Running 14.4 Volts on HID?

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  1. I just received some replacement batteries that are 14.4 volts by
    mistake (I ordered 13.2), I thought that 13.2 volts would be the
    recommeneded voltage for an HID. I think over-volting would make a
    Halogen run brighter (and thus make the battery life shorter).

    What are the pros/cons/effects of running 14.4 on 13 watt NiteriderHID
    bulb. HID's are already bright enough as-is, I don't need them any
    brighter, does the higher voltage make them run longer instead???

    Thanks for any input.

    L.

  2. Quoted message said:

    I think over-volting would make a
    Halogen run brighter (and thus make the battery life shorter).

    Mistake on this statement, it's (thus make the bulb life shorter).

  3. HID is high intensity discharge lighting usually using metal halide as the
    ignited gas. Without getting to far into it higher then rated voltage will
    harm the ballast and reduce the lamp life dramatically. Halogen is a form of
    quartz light completely different from HID. It is similar to incandescent
    light and the light will get brighter with increased voltage. The increase
    is 8.5% which would not reduce the lamp life much. Halogen lamps can be
    operated +- 10 %. On a halogen your battery runtime would be reduced by
    about 8.5%.

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    Quoted message said:

    I just received some replacement batteries that are 14.4 volts by
    mistake (I ordered 13.2), I thought that 13.2 volts would be the
    recommeneded voltage for an HID. I think over-volting would make a
    Halogen run brighter (and thus make the battery life shorter).

    What are the pros/cons/effects of running 14.4 on 13 watt NiteriderHID
    bulb. HID's are already bright enough as-is, I don't need them any
    brighter, does the higher voltage make them run longer instead???

    Thanks for any input.

    L.

  4. Quoted message said:

    I just received some replacement batteries that are 14.4 volts by
    mistake (I ordered 13.2), I thought that 13.2 volts would be the
    recommeneded voltage for an HID. I think over-volting would make a
    Halogen run brighter (and thus make the battery life shorter).

    What are the pros/cons/effects of running 14.4 on 13 watt NiteriderHID
    bulb. HID's are already bright enough as-is, I don't need them any
    brighter, does the higher voltage make them run longer instead???

    Overvolting makes bulb life shorter (which might be by a lot, as in hook
    up, [censored]), it makes the bulb brighter and whiter by heating it up further,
    and at the higher temperature resistance will decrease by a bit, which
    might be enough to counteract the larger capacity of the battery.

    Jasper

  5. Quoted message said:

    I just received some replacement batteries that are 14.4 volts by
    mistake (I ordered 13.2), I thought that 13.2 volts would be the
    recommeneded voltage for an HID. I think over-volting would make a
    Halogen run brighter (and thus make the battery life shorter).

    What are the pros/cons/effects of running 14.4 on 13 watt NiteriderHID
    bulb. HID's are already bright enough as-is, I don't need them any
    brighter, does the higher voltage make them run longer instead???

    Overvolting makes bulb life shorter (which might be by a lot, as in hook
    up, [censored]), it makes the bulb brighter and whiter by heating it up further,
    and at the higher temperature resistance will decrease by a bit, which
    might be enough to counteract the larger capacity of the battery.

    Jasper

  6. Quoted message said:

    I just received some replacement batteries that are 14.4 volts by
    mistake (I ordered 13.2), I thought that 13.2 volts would be the
    recommeneded voltage for an HID. I think over-volting would make
    a Halogen run brighter (and thus make the battery life shorter).

    What are the pros/cons/effects of running 14.4 on 13 watt
    NiteriderHID bulb. HID's are already bright enough as-is, I don't
    need them any brighter, does the higher voltage make them run
    longer instead???

    An HID system includes a ballast which regulates the current to the
    lamp, as well as supplying a really-high-voltage pulse to start it.
    Running it on excessive voltage probably won't change the lamp
    operation, but it might fry the ballast. I wouldn't do it without
    checking with the manufacturer first.

    --
    Ray Heindl
    (remove the Xs to reply)

  7. Thanks all,

    In summary, I guess it's a bad idea to over-volt an HID due to the the
    ballast. I just got an RMA from the battery comany and I get to
    return the goods for the right product. Worst case I would have
    removed 1 of the 1.2 volt "C" cells and jumpered to get the right 13.2
    volts.

    Thanks again..

    Louis

  8. Quoted message said:

    I just received some replacement batteries that are 14.4 volts by
    mistake (I ordered 13.2), I thought that 13.2 volts would be the
    recommeneded voltage for an HID. I think over-volting would make a
    Halogen run brighter (and thus make the battery life shorter).

    I don't know if this applies to all HIDs but Lumicycle's can be used with
    14.8 volts. Looks like the same lamps are used for both their 13.2 and
    14.8 battery options.

    See www.lumicycle.com/Product/product2.aspx?product=SYSHALIDELIION&dep=48

    and http://www.lumicycle.com/Pages/CMS.aspx?MIS=39

    ~PB

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