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  1. As some may know we vacation along the central coast of California

    The house we use has a very small kitchen with a Jen-Air electric range (with
    grill) and there's a standard Webber charcoal burner out back. Not wanting to
    pay resort prices at the local store we stop at a Trader Joe's and an
    Albertson's on the way up. The grill came in handy the first night for some
    Teriyaki grilled boneless pork shoulder.

    Not having a full assortment of herbs and spices one learns to improvise.
    Fortunately the local stupid market does sell Mike's Chunks of Red Oak - of
    Santa Maria fame.

    As far as the meat was concerned the Webber did a low and slow Tri Tip, Chicken
    breasts, and several racks of Baby Back Ribs - all these were done low and slow
    choking off enough air so the chunks of red oak couldn't burn. The main
    flavorings I used were Garlic powder, Onion powder, Paprika, cayenne pepper,
    salt, some old thyme, red wine, white wine and some French Vermouth, balsamic
    and EVOO. The wine and flavorings make sensational marinades.

    For a few breakfasts I used steel cut oat meal a few of the mornings, one
    morning I used dried cranberries, mixed in at the beginning, one morning I diced
    quite a few slices of dried granny smith apples and some golden raisins. On
    that morning I used 2 packets of the Instant Spiced Cider mix for a little
    spice - both batches turned out quite well.

    They do make a local San Louis Sour Dough Cracked Wheat bread that makes damn
    good toast and sandwiches.

    When I baked some potatoes one night a added another 6 medium ones. A few days
    later they were a great breakfast side dish when chunked, and mixed with S&P,
    fresh onion, garlic powder, balsamic & EVOO then fried. A nice complement to
    the Salsa scrambled eggs with cheese.

    The solids and liquid from a can of Ro-Tel will nicely spike up the basmati rice
    medley. An onion and a few ounces of orange juice do quite well to a bag of
    frozen French Green Beans, as does the garlic, & balsamic help the frozen
    chopped spinach.

    If you are ever up that way there is a very good little joint in a one horse
    town called Cayucos called the Fish Shanty - they have great white clam chowder,
    local fresh fish and chips (or salad) and a mud Pie to die for ( you'll need at
    least 2 if not 3 people to demolish one of these slices or should I say
    mountains?

    Well in a bizarre set of circumstances some day maybe some of this information
    will help.

    Dimitri

  2. Dimitri said:

    The main
    flavorings I used were Garlic powder, Onion powder, Paprika, cayenne pepper,
    salt, some old thyme, red wine, white wine and some French Vermouth, balsamic
    and EVOO.

    Just curious as I'm in the UK - what's EVOO?

    Quoted message said:

    On
    that morning I used 2 packets of the Instant Spiced Cider mix for a little
    spice - both batches turned out quite well.

    And what's Instant Spiced Cider mix? It sounds delicious! Would the postage
    costs to the UK be astronomical if I could find a way to get some?

    Sue
    Portsmouth, UK
    --
    pen-drake location ntl-world-.-com minus hyphens.

  3. = . . = (EastneyEnder) said:
    Dimitri said:

    The main
    flavorings I used were Garlic powder, Onion powder, Paprika,


    cayenne pepper,

    Quoted message said:

    salt, some old thyme, red wine, white wine and some French Vermouth,


    balsamic

    Quoted message said:

    and EVOO.

    Just curious as I'm in the UK - what's EVOO?

    First time i saw that acronym i thought the person posting it was making
    some sort of cryptic reference to Pan. Eeee Vaaaa Ooooo...but then i
    found out it means Extra Virgin Olive Oil.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On
    that morning I used 2 packets of the Instant Spiced Cider mix for a


    little

    Quoted message said:

    spice - both batches turned out quite well.

    And what's Instant Spiced Cider mix? It sounds delicious! Would the
    postage
    costs to the UK be astronomical if I could find a way to get some?

    Oh im sure Harrods will have a version of it, spiced wine is a European
    custom and i would be surprised if any particular major food supplier in
    Britain did not carry some version of it.

    Over here we have a product, a "Tea" called "Constant Comment" that is a
    cinnamon based tea and very good when made with hot cider.

    You might also consider looking at the concept of "Mulled wine" for
    inspiration on spicing your cider. Or look for old English "punch"
    recipes.
    ---
    JL

    Quoted message said:

    Sue
    Portsmouth, UK
    --
    pen-drake location ntl-world-.-com minus hyphens.

  4. Joseph Littleshoes said:

    Oh im sure Harrods will have a version of it, spiced wine is a European
    custom and i would be surprised if any particular major food supplier in
    Britain did not carry some version of it.

    Thanks Joseph, but that doesn't really answer my question... What is Instant
    Cider mix?

    Over here, cider is an alcoholic drink made from apples. I'm sure that's not
    what the gentleman put in his morning porridge!

    So I am guessing, some kind of mix made from non-alcoholic dried apple juice
    and spices? If so, then we have *nothing* like it in the UK, which is why I
    asked about importing it.

    Sue
    Portsmouth, UK
    --
    pen-drake location ntl-world-.-com minus hyphens.

  5. "= . . = (EastneyEnder)" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Joseph Littleshoes said:

    Oh im sure Harrods will have a version of it, spiced wine is a
    European
    custom and i would be surprised if any particular major food supplier
    in
    Britain did not carry some version of it.

    Thanks Joseph, but that doesn't really answer my question... What is
    Instant
    Cider mix?

    Over here, cider is an alcoholic drink made from apples. I'm sure
    that's not
    what the gentleman put in his morning porridge!

    So I am guessing, some kind of mix made from non-alcoholic dried apple
    juice
    and spices? If so, then we have *nothing* like it in the UK, which is
    why I
    asked about importing it.

    Sue, could it be some kind of mix to put into cider? Like the mix we
    can get for Gluwein?

  6. "= . . = (EastneyEnder)" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Joseph Littleshoes said:

    Oh im sure Harrods will have a version of it, spiced wine is a European
    custom and i would be surprised if any particular major food supplier in
    Britain did not carry some version of it.

    Thanks Joseph, but that doesn't really answer my question... What is Instant
    Cider mix?

    Take a look here:

    http://products.peapod.com/5070.html

    add a packet to a cup of hot water - you get spiced apple cider.

    Dimitri

  7. = . . = (EastneyEnder) said:
    Joseph Littleshoes said:

    Oh im sure Harrods will have a version of it, spiced wine is a European
    custom and i would be surprised if any particular major food supplier in
    Britain did not carry some version of it.

    Thanks Joseph, but that doesn't really answer my question... What is Instant
    Cider mix?

    Apple cider mix is a dry mix similar to hot chocolcate mix. You can buy
    it by the package especially on university campuses or by the box at
    some stores. There are a variety of brands. Here's a link with more info.
    http://www.diamondcrystal.com/drin/drin-07.html

    I keep a few packs on hand but much prefer the fresh to the mix. We can
    buy fresh apple cider at the orchards or grocery stores and it tastes so
    much nicer than the mix, IMO. The apple cider is non-alcoholic but can
    be converted to alcoholic if you so choose and have the know-how 🙂

    Quoted message said:


    Over here, cider is an alcoholic drink made from apples. I'm sure that's not
    what the gentleman put in his morning porridge!

    So I am guessing, some kind of mix made from non-alcoholic dried apple juice
    and spices? If so, then we have *nothing* like it in the UK, which is why I
    asked about importing it.

    Sue
    Portsmouth, UK

  8. ~patches~ said:

    Apple cider mix is a dry mix similar to hot chocolcate mix. You can buy
    it by the package especially on university campuses or by the box at
    some stores. There are a variety of brands. Here's a link with more info.
    http://www.diamondcrystal.com/drin/drin-07.html

    I keep a few packs on hand but much prefer the fresh to the mix. We can
    buy fresh apple cider at the orchards or grocery stores and it tastes so
    much nicer than the mix, IMO. The apple cider is non-alcoholic but can
    be converted to alcoholic if you so choose and have the know-how 🙂

    Thanks Patches - answered my question perfectly!

    And we don't have anything like this in the UK. The nearest I can think of
    is Apple Tea mix which you can buy [only] in Turkish shops (but isn't
    spiced), or a "winter" spiced fruit squash [ = a liquid non-alcoholic
    cordial to be diluted with water as you would do with lemonade]. Or fruit
    teas (blechhh!) or possibly making my own version with apple juice from a
    carton and spices (hardly instant).

    If I could find a way to arrange payment, would anyone be good enough to
    send me some? It's getting a bit chilly over here in the evenings and I'm on
    the hunt for something nice and warming which isn't tea, coffee or hot
    chocolate.

    Sue
    ----------
    Pendragon fancy rats & hamsters
    Pendrake rabbits
    Portsmouth, Hampshire, England UK

  9. = . . = (EastneyEnder) said:
    Joseph Littleshoes said:

    Oh im sure Harrods will have a version of it, spiced wine is a


    European

    Quoted message said:

    custom and i would be surprised if any particular major food


    supplier in

    Quoted message said:

    Britain did not carry some version of it.

    Thanks Joseph, but that doesn't really answer my question... What is
    Instant
    Cider mix?

    Over here, cider is an alcoholic drink made from apples. I'm sure
    that's not
    what the gentleman put in his morning porridge!

    Never can tell, Queen Victoria like a neat drop of scotch in her tea.

    Over on this side of the pond there are sold packets of herbs labeled
    "Cider mix" for adding to hot apple cider. I cant imagine Britain does
    not have some sort of equivalent commercial product.

    Quoted message said:

    So I am guessing, some kind of mix made from non-alcoholic dried apple
    juice
    and spices? If so, then we have *nothing* like it in the UK, which is
    why I
    asked about importing it.

    I have seen what you are talking about but have never bought them, i
    suspect it is only the herbs that would be added to the cider, next time
    i am at the store i know sells it i will make a note of contents and
    manufacturer.

    If i were to desire to serve such a drink, Mulled wine or spiced cider i
    would make it with my own herbs, hard cider (alcoholic cider) is easy to
    get and some micro breweries make a very good version of it around here,
    though im partial to raspberry beer.

    One similar recipe i have calls for mace, nutmeg, cloves, cinnamon (some
    recipies add corriander) and all spice to be added to brandy, rum, and
    slices of apples and left to stand for 3 days before serving.
    ---
    JL

    Quoted message said:

    Sue
    Portsmouth, UK
    --
    pen-drake location ntl-world-.-com minus hyphens.

  10. "= . . = (EastneyEnder)" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    If I could find a way to arrange payment, would anyone be good enough to
    send me some?

    I'd be happy to if someone tells me the brand name. I'd hate to promise
    then not be able to find it.

    nancy

  11. Dimitri said:

    "= . . = (EastneyEnder)" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in
    message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Joseph Littleshoes said:

    Oh im sure Harrods will have a version of it, spiced wine is a


    European

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    custom and i would be surprised if any particular major food


    supplier in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Britain did not carry some version of it.

    Thanks Joseph, but that doesn't really answer my question... What is


    Instant

    Quoted message said:

    Cider mix?

    Take a look here:

    http://products.peapod.com/5070.html

    add a packet to a cup of hot water - you get spiced apple cider.

    Dimitri

    I suppose i should throw away my boxes of Kraft mac and cheese before i
    say anything, but...Ewwww...
    ---
    JL

  12. "Joseph LIttleshoes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://products.peapod.com/5070.html

    add a packet to a cup of hot water - you get spiced apple cider.

    Dimitri

    I suppose i should throw away my boxes of Kraft mac and cheese before i
    say anything, but...Ewwww...
    ---
    JL

    Actually for sugar free with no caffeine it's not too horrid. Without question
    it ain't the same as steeping a gallon of cider with an orange and a bag of
    mulling spice.

    Dimitri

  13. Nancy Young said:

    I'd be happy to if someone tells me the brand name. I'd hate to promise
    then not be able to find it.

    That would be cool, Nancy - I think Dimitri and ~patches~ posted links:

    http://www.diamondcrystal.com/drin/drin-07.html from patches
    http://products.peapod.com/5070.html from Dimitri

    Just one of those things that get my curiosity aroused. I'm the kind of
    person who goes overseas and trawls supermarkets for unusual things and
    interestingly designed packaging to bring home... Not been out of the
    country for 2 years now so I am a bit starved of that novelty 🙂)

    Last trip to the US I brought home cornbread mix, black beans & rice mix (I
    liked the packaging design), Chocolate Caramel Creme Lifesavers, Watermelon
    Jolly Ranchers, White Chief Grits (I think that's what they were called....
    certainly not the wallpaper paste instant kind), Velveeta for a vegetarian
    friend, and a few packs of Zapp's Gator flavoured crisps [potato chips].

    I miss travelling!!!

    Sue
    Portsmouth, UK
    --
    pen-drake location ntl-world-.-com minus hyphens.

  14. "= . . = (EastneyEnder)" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Nancy Young said:

    I'd be happy to if someone tells me the brand name. I'd hate to promise
    then not be able to find it.

    That would be cool, Nancy - I think Dimitri and ~patches~ posted links:

    Okay, I'll give it a look and let you know when I find it. Let me know if
    there's anything else you'd like.

    Quoted message said:

    Last trip to the US I brought home cornbread mix, black beans & rice mix
    (I
    liked the packaging design), Chocolate Caramel Creme Lifesavers,
    Watermelon
    Jolly Ranchers, White Chief Grits (I think that's what they were
    called....
    certainly not the wallpaper paste instant kind), Velveeta for a vegetarian
    friend, and a few packs of Zapp's Gator flavoured crisps [potato chips].

    That's a funny list, made me laugh. Cute.

    nancy

  15. "= . . = (EastneyEnder)" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    So I am guessing, some kind of mix made from non-alcoholic dried apple


    juice

    Quoted message said:

    and spices? If so, then we have *nothing* like it in the UK, which is why


    I

    Quoted message said:

    asked about importing it.

    Sue
    Portsmouth, UK

    You must not get out much. the spice mix is easily available in the U.K. In
    the U.S. cider is the same as in the U.K. There is cider and hard cider. You
    are either very sheltered or an idiot.

    Charlie

  16. Charles Gifford said:

    You must not get out much. the spice mix is easily available in the U.K. In
    the U.S. cider is the same as in the U.K. There is cider and hard cider. You
    are either very sheltered or an idiot.

    Well thanks, mate.... I'm neither.

    I grew up in Somerset where cider - what YOU call HARD cider - is made. Same
    place where Cheddar cheese originated, but I guess you didn't know that.
    What you eat in the USA bears no relation to what has ever been made there.

    10% of Americans have passports, so I am told. Considering I have travelled
    in most of Europe, India and South East Asia, plus a lot of the US states,
    so how much have you got out lately....?

    I do know the difference. And it is not available here. Tell me where,
    exactly, and I might listen.

    Sorry to come across as bolshy, but if you want to have a poke at me, I'm
    allowed to have a poke back.

  17. "= . . = (EastneyEnder)" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Charles Gifford said:

    You must not get out much. the spice mix is easily available in the U.K.


    In

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the U.S. cider is the same as in the U.K. There is cider and hard cider.


    You

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    are either very sheltered or an idiot.

    Well thanks, mate.... I'm neither.

    I am gratified to hear it!

    Quoted message said:

    I grew up in Somerset

    Somerset eh? I like Somerset. I've only been there a couple of times, but,
    as I remember, it is difficult to get a decent pint of Yorkshire Bitter
    there.

    Quoted message said:

    where cider - what YOU call HARD cider - is made.

    Cider is made everywhere there are apples. Two kinds: fresh (sometimes
    called sweet) and hard (alcoholic). When I order a pint of cider in a pub I
    ask for cider knowing it will be alcoholic. You must have heard someone else
    call for hard cider. T'weren't me lad. <blush> I didn't know we had met
    before. <blushing prettily>

    Quoted message said:

    Same
    place where Cheddar cheese originated, but I guess you didn't know that.

    Why wouldn't I know about Cheddar? I've been to Cheddar; I've drunk cider
    there; et Cheddar there. But what does cheese have to do with my post?
    While we are on the subject though, I do love a wonderful unpasturized
    farmhouse Cheddar. It is too expensive to purchase often here in San Diego
    though.

    Quoted message said:

    What you eat in the USA bears no relation to what has ever been made


    there.

    Now....let me get this straight. What I eat in the US bears no relation to
    what has ever been made in the U.S. I see....... But actually I was talking
    about cider mix, not something to eat.

    Quoted message said:

    10% of Americans have passports, so I am told.

    Who told you that? It is very interesting. Personally, I travel on an Irish
    passport.

    Quoted message said:

    Considering I have travelled
    in most of Europe, India and South East Asia, plus a lot of the US states,
    so how much have you got out lately....?

    No much lately. I've seen some of Europe, Asia, Polynesia, Micronesia, and
    South-East Asia. Oh, and Canada and Mexico too! I've not visited India, but
    I have seen Greenland from an airliner window! Although I spend most of my
    travel time in the U.K. and Ireland, I have seen a lot of the U.S. too. All
    in all it looks like you have out pointed me here.

    Quoted message said:

    I do know the difference. And it is not available here. Tell me where,
    exactly, and I might listen.

    You have lost me here. You know the difference concerning what exactly? If
    you want the mix, try Tesco or Aldi, I've seen it at Harrods and F&M's. I've
    even seen it home-made for sale at some market days....especially during the
    winter.

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry to come across as bolshy, but if you want to have a poke at me, I'm
    allowed to have a poke back.

    Bolshy? That's my territory comrade. You may feel free to poke me as needed.
    I was a little rash in my assesment of your intelectual achievments perhaps,
    so we can overlook the slight mis-steps in your recent poke. I cannot deny
    that you were provoked without cause; which may have resulted such a
    convoluted pokery on your part.

    Charlie

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Charles Gifford said:

    You must not get out much. the spice mix is easily available in the U.K. In
    the U.S. cider is the same as in the U.K. There is cider and hard cider. You
    are either very sheltered or an idiot.

    Yikes. Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? This seems
    unlike you.

    Regards,
    Ranee

    Remove do not & spam to e-mail me.

    "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

    http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
    http://talesfromthekitchen.blogspot.com/

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,
    "= . . = (EastneyEnder)" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    If I could find a way to arrange payment, would anyone be good enough to
    send me some? It's getting a bit chilly over here in the evenings and I'm on
    the hunt for something nice and warming which isn't tea, coffee or hot
    chocolate.

    If you haven't worked out a deal, email me (remove do not and spam),
    with your address. It is pretty inexpensive.

    Regards,
    Ranee

    Remove do not & spam to e-mail me.

    "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

    http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
    http://talesfromthekitchen.blogspot.com/

  20. "Ranee Mueller" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    "= . . = (EastneyEnder)" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    If I could find a way to arrange payment, would anyone be good enough to
    send me some? It's getting a bit chilly over here in the evenings and I'm
    on
    the hunt for something nice and warming which isn't tea, coffee or hot
    chocolate.

    If you haven't worked out a deal, email me (remove do not and spam),
    with your address. It is pretty inexpensive.

    I agreed to get it for her, but I haven't been able to find it ... if you
    could
    send it to her, that would be great. nancy

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