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  1. Well, with the good info I got, and all the talk about this stuff, I
    couldn't wait any longer to make some, so Friday on the way home from work
    we stopped at our local little butchers, for a butchers at what beef they
    had.

    They had all sorts, but in the end, I chose part of a very nice looking
    'salmon cut' silverside roast - I asked the assistant who was serving (not
    either of the main two guys - they were in back) for about a pound of it
    (£4.50 ish), and asked if he would cut it into 1/4 inch slices. While he was
    at it, I noseied through the wares, then I looked up to see the bench
    covered in little chopped up bits of beef, cubes FFS! Ugh, so anyway, I
    explained myself again, and had him slice some from another piece for me,
    which he did, over a half inch thick... I just took it as it was and left,
    bit frustrated - the owner guys are really sharp and helpful!

    Anyway, so when I got home, it was sharpen the living daylights out of the
    chef's knife, and try to cut the slices in half with them flat on a chopping
    board, which I managed to do a decent job of TF!

    Once I'd got it all cut into strips, I made up the marinade. This was salt,
    sugar, lemon juice (wanted lime but forgot to buy it), plenty black pepper,
    good few glugs of my red hab, mango, green date, fresh fig and lime juice
    chile sauce, small-ish splash of my oak and cherry wood smoked habanero hot
    sauce, good pinch of ground coriander seed, about 1" grated fresh ginger, 4
    cloves of garlic, grated (the garlic and ginger got pureed with the side of
    the knife against a chopping board before going it) little bit of soy sauce
    (about 2 tsp - we ran out at that point LOL!) - was a thick, concentrated
    marinade, not very liquid at all, covered and put into the fridge, was going
    to be for overnight but I couldn't bring myself to wait! So by 11 p.m. the
    oven is up to temps (somewhere around 60 or 70C I guess - door wedged open
    about 2" with a metal knife handle), and in goes the meat on 2 small wire
    racks.

    Smelled lovely!

    I turned it in the morning at ~8 hours - it's looking good at this point,
    but still quite wet inside. Tasty, though ',;~}~

    I ended up removing it from the oven at about 14 hours - it was done
    perfectly for us at that point, and since we knew this would not last, we
    didn't need to worry if it was dry enough to keep or not.

    It didn't last until Sunday - Kath and I ate the bloody lot, apart from one
    small piece that BIL Simon tried. It was damned good stuff, not too tough or
    anything - I just gotta make some more soon - I need another fix LOL!

    One thing I'll do differently next time, is to finely grind the pepper with
    pestle and mortar - the chunky pieces out of the twist grinder, once baked
    for so long in the oven, were rock hard and kept getting stuck in our teeth.
    Another thing is I will use far more soy next time, and think up a few other
    flavour twists to go with it. Maybe soy, chile and hot mustard/wassabi, with
    maple syrup or honey for the sweetness.

    So anyway, big thanks to those that helped me along with this little quest -
    I am very pleased with it!

    ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe

  2. Shaun aRe said:

    ...Once I'd got it all cut into strips, I made up the marinade. This was salt,

    sugar, lemon juice (wanted lime but forgot to buy it), plenty black pepper,
    good few glugs of my red hab, mango, green date, fresh fig and lime juice
    chile sauce, small-ish splash of my oak and cherry wood smoked habanero hot
    sauce, good pinch of ground coriander seed, about 1" grated fresh ginger, 4
    cloves of garlic, grated (the garlic and ginger got pureed with the side of
    the knife against a chopping board before going it) little bit of soy sauce
    (about 2 tsp - we ran out at that point LOL!) - was a thick, concentrated
    marinade, not very liquid at all, covered and put into the fridge, was going
    to be for overnight but I couldn't bring myself to wait! So by 11 p.m. the
    oven is up to temps (somewhere around 60 or 70C I guess - door wedged open
    about 2" with a metal knife handle), and in goes the meat on 2 small wire
    racks.
    It didn't last until Sunday - Kath and I ate the bloody lot, apart from one
    small piece that BIL Simon tried. It was damned good stuff, not too tough or
    anything - I just gotta make some more soon - I need another fix LOL!
    One thing I'll do differently next time, is to finely grind the pepper with
    pestle and mortar - the chunky pieces out of the twist grinder, once baked
    for so long in the oven, were rock hard and kept getting stuck in our teeth.
    Another thing is I will use far more soy next time, and think up a few other
    flavour twists to go with it. Maybe soy, chile and hot mustard/wassabi, with
    maple syrup or honey for the sweetness.
    So anyway, big thanks to those that helped me along with this little quest -
    I am very pleased with it!
    Shaun aRe

    A coupla things about keeping the jerky, should you be so lucky as to have any
    leftover. Keep in a largish container with plenty of room for air. If the
    cupboard is cool, it will keep nicely, but keep checking for mold, especially if
    your jerky is not crispy-dried. I experimented with keeping in brown paper
    lunchbags, stapled shut. Pretty good keeping, but still not enuf air circulation
    and molded after 2 months. Have a few slices I vacuum sealed in the cabinet
    coupla months ago, will check on those soon & report back. They *look* okay. I
    generally keep my jerky in the freezer in convenient small bags to grab n' go.
    What interesting combinations of marinade! I do not like much soy sauce as I
    find a metallic aftertaste. And a little worcestershire is nice - adds a depth
    to the flavor.
    Edrena

  3. Shaun aRe said:

    Well, with the good info I got, and all the talk about this stuff, I
    couldn't wait any longer to make some, so Friday on the way home from work
    we stopped at our local little butchers, for a butchers at what beef they
    had.


    <snip of success>
    Congratulations Shaun! I'm so glad making jerky worked ok for you and
    you were pleased with the results. Isn't is easy to make and so
    enjoyable to eat? I liked your marinade too. Next time you will have
    to make a bigger batch 🙂

  4. The Joneses said:
    Shaun aRe said:

    ...Once I'd got it all cut into strips, I made up the marinade. This was salt,

    sugar, lemon juice (wanted lime but forgot to buy it), plenty black pepper,
    good few glugs of my red hab, mango, green date, fresh fig and lime juice
    chile sauce, small-ish splash of my oak and cherry wood smoked habanero hot
    sauce, good pinch of ground coriander seed, about 1" grated fresh ginger, 4
    cloves of garlic, grated (the garlic and ginger got pureed with the side of
    the knife against a chopping board before going it) little bit of soy sauce
    (about 2 tsp - we ran out at that point LOL!) - was a thick, concentrated
    marinade, not very liquid at all, covered and put into the fridge, was going
    to be for overnight but I couldn't bring myself to wait! So by 11 p.m. the
    oven is up to temps (somewhere around 60 or 70C I guess - door wedged open
    about 2" with a metal knife handle), and in goes the meat on 2 small wire
    racks.
    It didn't last until Sunday - Kath and I ate the bloody lot, apart from one
    small piece that BIL Simon tried. It was damned good stuff, not too tough or
    anything - I just gotta make some more soon - I need another fix LOL!
    One thing I'll do differently next time, is to finely grind the pepper with
    pestle and mortar - the chunky pieces out of the twist grinder, once baked
    for so long in the oven, were rock hard and kept getting stuck in our teeth.
    Another thing is I will use far more soy next time, and think up a few other
    flavour twists to go with it. Maybe soy, chile and hot mustard/wassabi, with
    maple syrup or honey for the sweetness.
    So anyway, big thanks to those that helped me along with this little quest -
    I am very pleased with it!
    Shaun aRe

    A coupla things about keeping the jerky, should you be so lucky as to have any
    leftover. Keep in a largish container with plenty of room for air. If the
    cupboard is cool, it will keep nicely, but keep checking for mold, especially if
    your jerky is not crispy-dried. I experimented with keeping in brown paper
    lunchbags, stapled shut. Pretty good keeping, but still not enuf air circulation
    and molded after 2 months. Have a few slices I vacuum sealed in the cabinet
    coupla months ago, will check on those soon & report back. They *look* okay. I
    generally keep my jerky in the freezer in convenient small bags to grab n' go.
    What interesting combinations of marinade! I do not like much soy sauce as I
    find a metallic aftertaste. And a little worcestershire is nice - adds a depth
    to the flavor.
    Edrena


    Edrena, I've been making jerky for almost ever and have never had jerky
    mold on me but then it never lasts very long around here. Jerky is
    supposed to keep without refrigeration and mine will. The only thing
    that I can think of that would cause molding is perhaps one of your
    strips was not quite dried enough. The vacuum sealed bags should be
    fine. When I make a large batch - 2 loads of 5 trays - I keep half the
    batch in an air tight container in the cupboard and the other 1/2 vacuum
    sealed in the fridge.

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Shaun aRe said:

    Well, with the good info I got, and all the talk about this stuff, I
    couldn't wait any longer to make some, so Friday on the way home from work
    we stopped at our local little butchers, for a butchers at what beef they
    had.

    They had all sorts, but in the end, I chose part of a very nice looking
    'salmon cut' silverside roast - I asked the assistant who was serving (not
    either of the main two guys - they were in back) for about a pound of it
    (£4.50 ish), and asked if he would cut it into 1/4 inch slices. While he was
    at it, I noseied through the wares, then I looked up to see the bench
    covered in little chopped up bits of beef, cubes FFS! Ugh, so anyway, I
    explained myself again, and had him slice some from another piece for me,
    which he did, over a half inch thick... I just took it as it was and left,
    bit frustrated - the owner guys are really sharp and helpful!

    Anyway, so when I got home, it was sharpen the living daylights out of the
    chef's knife, and try to cut the slices in half with them flat on a chopping
    board, which I managed to do a decent job of TF!

    Once I'd got it all cut into strips, I made up the marinade. This was salt,
    sugar, lemon juice (wanted lime but forgot to buy it), plenty black pepper,
    good few glugs of my red hab, mango, green date, fresh fig and lime juice
    chile sauce, small-ish splash of my oak and cherry wood smoked habanero hot
    sauce, good pinch of ground coriander seed, about 1" grated fresh ginger, 4
    cloves of garlic, grated (the garlic and ginger got pureed with the side of
    the knife against a chopping board before going it) little bit of soy sauce
    (about 2 tsp - we ran out at that point LOL!) - was a thick, concentrated
    marinade, not very liquid at all, covered and put into the fridge, was going
    to be for overnight but I couldn't bring myself to wait! So by 11 p.m. the
    oven is up to temps (somewhere around 60 or 70C I guess - door wedged open
    about 2" with a metal knife handle), and in goes the meat on 2 small wire
    racks.

    Smelled lovely!

    I turned it in the morning at ~8 hours - it's looking good at this point,
    but still quite wet inside. Tasty, though ',;~}~

    I ended up removing it from the oven at about 14 hours - it was done
    perfectly for us at that point, and since we knew this would not last, we
    didn't need to worry if it was dry enough to keep or not.

    It didn't last until Sunday - Kath and I ate the bloody lot, apart from one
    small piece that BIL Simon tried. It was damned good stuff, not too tough or
    anything - I just gotta make some more soon - I need another fix LOL!

    One thing I'll do differently next time, is to finely grind the pepper with
    pestle and mortar - the chunky pieces out of the twist grinder, once baked
    for so long in the oven, were rock hard and kept getting stuck in our teeth.
    Another thing is I will use far more soy next time, and think up a few other
    flavour twists to go with it. Maybe soy, chile and hot mustard/wassabi, with
    maple syrup or honey for the sweetness.

    So anyway, big thanks to those that helped me along with this little quest -
    I am very pleased with it!

    ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe

    Powdered white pepper..... ;-)

    Well done! Sounds delish'.

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  6. I'll probably get booted out of the group for this but am going to take
    the chance.

    I make jerky using ground beef and this kit that I bought at Walmart.
    http://tinyurl.com/8wa4j
    It is so easy and so good. I use the leanest ground beef I can
    find...usually 7 %...and have very little shrinkage. I usually add
    more pepper to the mix, as we like it spicy..

    I know this is cheating....but it works for us and maybe some others
    might enjoy it.

    jillie...who loves a good shortcut
    Roseville, CA

  7. Shaun aRe said:


    It didn't last until Sunday - Kath and I ate the bloody lot, apart from one
    small piece that BIL Simon tried. It was damned good stuff, not too tough or
    anything - I just gotta make some more soon - I need another fix LOL!

    Welcome to the club.... Your marinade sounded very "inventive", but good 😉

    --
    Cheers
    Cathy(xyz)

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    jillie said:

    I'll probably get booted out of the group for this but am going to take
    the chance.

    I make jerky using ground beef and this kit that I bought at Walmart.
    http://tinyurl.com/8wa4j
    It is so easy and so good. I use the leanest ground beef I can
    find...usually 7 %...and have very little shrinkage. I usually add
    more pepper to the mix, as we like it spicy..

    I know this is cheating....but it works for us and maybe some others
    might enjoy it.

    jillie...who loves a good shortcut
    Roseville, CA

    I don't know about the booting out thing. For my part I think its
    refreshing that someone owns up to such atrocities. I may even go down
    to the w-mart and try some of this myself ... of course, I won't admit
    to the whole world what I've done. ;^)

    Now, for your penance say ....

    Regards,
    Dave W.

    --
    Living in the Ozarks
    For email, edu will do.

    Regardless of what doesn't happen, there's always someone who knew it wouldn't.
    R. Henry

  9. "The Joneses" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Shaun aRe said:

    ...Once I'd got it all cut into strips, I made up the marinade. This was


    salt,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    sugar, lemon juice (wanted lime but forgot to buy it), plenty black


    pepper,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    good few glugs of my red hab, mango, green date, fresh fig and lime


    juice

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    chile sauce, small-ish splash of my oak and cherry wood smoked habanero


    hot

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    sauce, good pinch of ground coriander seed, about 1" grated fresh


    ginger, 4

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cloves of garlic, grated (the garlic and ginger got pureed with the side


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the knife against a chopping board before going it) little bit of soy


    sauce

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (about 2 tsp - we ran out at that point LOL!) - was a thick,


    concentrated

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    marinade, not very liquid at all, covered and put into the fridge, was


    going

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to be for overnight but I couldn't bring myself to wait! So by 11 p.m.


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    oven is up to temps (somewhere around 60 or 70C I guess - door wedged


    open

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about 2" with a metal knife handle), and in goes the meat on 2 small


    wire

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    racks.
    It didn't last until Sunday - Kath and I ate the bloody lot, apart from


    one

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    small piece that BIL Simon tried. It was damned good stuff, not too


    tough or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    anything - I just gotta make some more soon - I need another fix LOL!
    One thing I'll do differently next time, is to finely grind the pepper


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pestle and mortar - the chunky pieces out of the twist grinder, once


    baked

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    for so long in the oven, were rock hard and kept getting stuck in our


    teeth.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Another thing is I will use far more soy next time, and think up a few


    other

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    flavour twists to go with it. Maybe soy, chile and hot mustard/wassabi,


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    maple syrup or honey for the sweetness.
    So anyway, big thanks to those that helped me along with this little


    quest -

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am very pleased with it!
    Shaun aRe

    A coupla things about keeping the jerky, should you be so lucky as to have


    any

    Quoted message said:

    leftover. Keep in a largish container with plenty of room for air. If the
    cupboard is cool, it will keep nicely, but keep checking for mold,


    especially if

    Quoted message said:

    your jerky is not crispy-dried. I experimented with keeping in brown paper
    lunchbags, stapled shut. Pretty good keeping, but still not enuf air


    circulation

    Quoted message said:

    and molded after 2 months. Have a few slices I vacuum sealed in the


    cabinet

    Quoted message said:

    coupla months ago, will check on those soon & report back. They *look*


    okay. I

    Quoted message said:

    generally keep my jerky in the freezer in convenient small bags to grab n'


    go.

    Quoted message said:

    What interesting combinations of marinade! I do not like much soy sauce


    as I

    Quoted message said:

    find a metallic aftertaste. And a little worcestershire is nice - adds a


    depth

    Quoted message said:

    to the flavor.
    Edrena

    Thanks for the keeping tips. Maybe if I start with 10lb of raw meat next
    time rather than 1lb, we'd have enough left to put some away ',;~}~

    I use Worcestershire in marinades for other things, and would have likely
    added a little to this, but we were out of that, too, heheheh...

    Cheers!

    Shaun aRe

  10. "~patches~" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Shaun aRe said:

    Well, with the good info I got, and all the talk about this stuff, I
    couldn't wait any longer to make some, so Friday on the way home from


    work

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    we stopped at our local little butchers, for a butchers at what beef


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    had.

    Quoted message said:

    <snip of success>
    Congratulations Shaun! I'm so glad making jerky worked ok for you and
    you were pleased with the results. Isn't is easy to make and so
    enjoyable to eat? I liked your marinade too. Next time you will have
    to make a *bigger batch 🙂

    Thanks! I loved the stuff, really and so did Kath. We will make it again
    there is no doubt <G!>

    The marinade was indeed very tasty - that fruity sauce is delicious (very
    hot), as is the smoked pepper one, fresh ginger I love, garlic too!

    Still thinking on what to use next time ',;~}~

    Cheers,

    Shaun aRe - *I know, you want I should make a ton and send you some LOL!

  11. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Shaun aRe said:

    Well, with the good info I got, and all the talk about this stuff, I
    couldn't wait any longer to make some, so Friday on the way home from


    work

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    we stopped at our local little butchers, for a butchers at what beef


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    had.

    <Schnupp!>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    So anyway, big thanks to those that helped me along with this little


    quest -

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am very pleased with it!

    ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe

    Powdered white pepper..... ;-)

    I prefer black, so I'd powder it msyelf in the pestly/mortar or coffee
    grinder ta!

    Quoted message said:

    Well done! Sounds delish'.

    Cheers!

    Thanks, it was - bloody gorgeous in fact. I can imagine cutting a couple of
    pieces into a camp-fire pot of an evening, and it being very useful, besides
    eating it as-is!

    ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe - P.s. - Tried to E-mail you from our new ADSL acct. at home last
    night, by way of a bit of a test - it seemed to go eventually, but the
    system is not working hardly at all yet (some issues, maybe with the indoor
    extension cable(s), so I dunno if it went through to you though?!?

  12. "jillie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'll probably get booted out of the group

    That it you're gone no second chances buh-byyeeeEEE!!!!

    Heheheh...

    Quoted message said:

    for this but am going to take
    the chance.

    I make jerky using ground beef and this kit that I bought at Walmart.
    http://tinyurl.com/8wa4j
    It is so easy and so good. I use the leanest ground beef I can
    find...usually 7 %...and have very little shrinkage. I usually add
    more pepper to the mix, as we like it spicy..

    I know this is cheating....but it works for us and maybe some others
    might enjoy it.

    jillie...who loves a good shortcut
    Roseville, CA

    Seen mention of using ground meat on a few web-sites - hey - if it works for
    you and you enjoy it, there's really no issue, IM(NS)HO!

    Shaun aRe

  13. "cathyxyz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Shaun aRe said:


    It didn't last until Sunday - Kath and I ate the bloody lot, apart from


    one

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    small piece that BIL Simon tried. It was damned good stuff, not too


    tough or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    anything - I just gotta make some more soon - I need another fix LOL!

    Welcome to the club.... Your marinade sounded very "inventive", but good


    😉

    Hey - I'm 100% inventive, 30% creative, 20% imaginative, 10% impro.

    I'm also good at maths.

    I'd like to try some long-soak marinade, like maybe a good 12 hours, with a
    dark and fruity red wine as the marinade base, soon - bet that could be
    interesting, although it'd likely be rather potent smelling while it was
    drying ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe - Then there's whiskey and ginger flavoured, with maple syrup! Bet
    that'd be good....

  14. The Joneses said:
    Shaun aRe said:

    ...Once I'd got it all cut into strips, I made up the marinade. This was salt,
    ... It was damned good stuff, not too tough or anything

    I experimented with keeping in brown paper lunchbags ... Have a few slices I
    vacuum sealed Sep 20th -

    The unrefrigerated, vacuum sealed product looks and tastes great. This will be my
    way to go from now on, but as always with any home preserved food - check for mold,
    smell & texture, before you eat it. For that matter, I've found mold on
    commercial jerky a coupla times.
    Edrena

  15. I have been experimenting with the best way for me to keep beef
    jerky. The brown paper lunchbags stapled check still allowed enuf air
    or something to allow mold to form. I did dry that batch nearly to a
    crisp. Freezing is okay, but the Orclet doesn't like the "freezer
    plastic bag taste." Have a few slices I vacuum sealed and keeping
    unrefrigerated since Sep 20th: tried a bite last night, looks, smells
    & tastes great. This will be my way to go from now on, but as always
    with any home preserved food - I'll check for mold, smell & texture,
    before eating it. For that matter, I've found mold on commercial jerky
    a coupla times.
    Edrena

  16. The Joneses said:

    Edrena

    Sorry - posted twice...E.

  17. "The Joneses" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have been experimenting with the best way for me to keep beef
    jerky. The brown paper lunchbags stapled check still allowed enuf air
    or something to allow mold to form. I did dry that batch nearly to a
    crisp. Freezing is okay, but the Orclet doesn't like the "freezer
    plastic bag taste." Have a few slices I vacuum sealed and keeping
    unrefrigerated since Sep 20th: tried a bite last night, looks, smells
    & tastes great. This will be my way to go from now on, but as always
    with any home preserved food - I'll check for mold, smell & texture,
    before eating it. For that matter, I've found mold on commercial jerky
    a coupla times.
    Edrena

    Jerky should keep almost indefinately as long as the bag is selaed each time
    a piece is taken out of it. Obviously, if it gets fuzzy, throw it away.
    Vaccuum sealing it is great if you don't want it right away(I have several
    batches in my cabinet vaccuum selaed).
    Air is the killer to jerky. Keep in mind that it is not cooked-rather it is
    dried-often at 145 degrees rather than higher-so bacteria can grow if not
    properly sealed-hence the fuzz.
    A vaccuum sealer is the best way to keep it almost forever. A sealed bag is
    2nd best. DON'T keep it out.

    If you are making a lot of it to keep throughout the winter-invest in a
    vaccuum sealer. The cost of the sealer far outwieghs the cost of the meat
    used.

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