This is an odd one, all right. It uses the basic idea of the classic Chinese poaching method, but then adds several bits of plain nonsense as though they were secrets.
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I can't imagine any necessity for the spoons other than to have something weird to tell your friends about. I've read about this poaching method in numerous good sources for Chinese cooking and have never seen any mention of this before. What makes it seem most implausible is that it says either stainless or silver. If one of them actually did have some helpful property the other wouldn't, I'd think. -aem
This is an odd one, all right. It uses the basic idea of the classic Chinese poaching method, but then adds several bits of plain nonsense as though they were secrets.
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I can't imagine any necessity for the spoons other than to have something weird to tell your friends about. I've read about this poaching method in numerous good sources for Chinese cooking and have never seen any mention of this before. What makes it seem most implausible is that it says either stainless or silver. If one of them actually did have some helpful property the other wouldn't, I'd think. -aem
Or you could just us a potato spike. ;-)
When we were camping, mom would use this very large, thick ten penny nail (always kept clean and just used for this purpose) and stick it thru the middle of potatoes then wrap them in foil to roast in the campfire. She said the nail would carry heat to the center of the spud for faster and more even cooking. -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
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When we were camping, mom would use this very large, thick ten penny nail (always kept clean and just used for this purpose) and stick it thru the middle of potatoes then wrap them in foil to roast in the campfire. She said the nail would carry heat to the center of the spud for faster and more even cooking. -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
At one time, devices just like your nail were sold for that specific purpose -- aluminum spikes, I think. Janet
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When we were camping, mom would use this very large, thick ten penny nail (always kept clean and just used for this purpose) and stick it thru the middle of potatoes then wrap them in foil to roast in the campfire. She said the nail would carry heat to the center of the spud for faster and more even cooking. -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
At one time, devices just like your nail were sold for that specific purpose -- aluminum spikes, I think. Janet
They're still made, Janet, but now they're stainless steel.
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When we were camping, mom would use this very large, thick ten penny nail (always kept clean and just used for this purpose) and stick it thru the middle of potatoes then wrap them in foil to roast in the campfire. She said the nail would carry heat to the center of the spud for faster and more even cooking. -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
At one time, devices just like your nail were sold for that specific purpose -- aluminum spikes, I think. Janet
Yes, we had some, but mom and dad developed a serious HO against aluminum so Iron it was. ;-) I think it holds heat better anyway and if you clean it before use (or season it well) it's not going to leave rust on the spuds. -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
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When we were camping, mom would use this very large, thick ten penny nail (always kept clean and just used for this purpose) and stick it thru the middle of potatoes then wrap them in foil to roast in the campfire. She said the nail would carry heat to the center of the spud for faster and more even cooking. -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
At one time, devices just like your nail were sold for that specific purpose -- aluminum spikes, I think. Janet
They're still made, Janet, but now they're stainless steel.
That's actually not a bad price, and Stainless would be better, thanks! :-) I might have to get some for sweet potatoes. Ten penny nails at the hardware store are not much cheaper.
Thanks for posting that! -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
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On Sat 05 Nov 2005 05:03:44p, Janet Bostwick wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... snip> > When we were camping, mom would use this very large, thick ten penny > nail (always kept clean and just used for this purpose) and stick it > thru the middle of potatoes then wrap them in foil to roast in the > campfire. She said the nail would carry heat to the center of the
spud
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> for faster and more even cooking. > -- > Om. > > "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack > Nicholson At one time, devices just like your nail were sold for that specific purpose -- aluminum spikes, I think. Janet
They're still made, Janet, but now they're stainless steel.
That's actually not a bad price, and Stainless would be better, thanks! :-) I might have to get some for sweet potatoes. Ten penny nails at the hardware store are not much cheaper.
Thanks for posting that!
You're welcome!
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When we were camping, mom would use this very large, thick ten penny nail (always kept clean and just used for this purpose) and stick it thru the middle of potatoes then wrap them in foil to roast in the campfire. She said the nail would carry heat to the center of the spud for faster and more even cooking. -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
At one time, devices just like your nail were sold for that specific purpose -- aluminum spikes, I think. Janet
Yes, we had some, but mom and dad developed a serious HO against aluminum so Iron it was. ;-) I think it holds heat better anyway and if you clean it before use (or season it well) it's not going to leave rust on the spuds. -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
Still, I always covet those big nails in the hardware section -- I've been seriously tempted to buy a half dozen for potatoes but I've always thought that it might leave a rusty mark. Janet
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... snip> > When we were camping, mom would use this very large, thick ten penny > nail (always kept clean and just used for this purpose) and stick it > thru the middle of potatoes then wrap them in foil to roast in the > campfire. She said the nail would carry heat to the center of the spud > for faster and more even cooking. > -- > Om. > > "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack > Nicholson At one time, devices just like your nail were sold for that specific purpose -- aluminum spikes, I think. Janet
Yes, we had some, but mom and dad developed a serious HO against aluminum so Iron it was. ;-) I think it holds heat better anyway and if you clean it before use (or season it well) it's not going to leave rust on the spuds. -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
Still, I always covet those big nails in the hardware section -- I've been seriously tempted to buy a half dozen for potatoes but I've always thought that it might leave a rusty mark. Janet
Never did for us... Honestly!
Just scrub and oil them before use. -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
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When we were camping, mom would use this very large, thick ten penny nail (always kept clean and just used for this purpose) and stick it thru the middle of potatoes then wrap them in foil to roast in the campfire. She said the nail would carry heat to the center of the spud for faster and more even cooking.
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At one time, devices just like your nail were sold for that specific purpose -- aluminum spikes, I think. Janet
I have some. Work nicely, too. Easy to make yourself--buy some heavy (at least 1/8"😉 aluminum ground wire (solid, not multistrand). Radio Shack, Home Depot, etc would have it. Cut a piece 8 or 9 inches long, cutting the end on the bias so it's sharp. Straighten it. Bend the other end to form a loop. Run the spike through the potato.
-- -denny- "Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"
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When we were camping, mom would use this very large, thick ten penny nail (always kept clean and just used for this purpose) and stick it thru the middle of potatoes then wrap them in foil to roast in the campfire. She said the nail would carry heat to the center of the spud for faster and more even cooking.
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At one time, devices just like your nail were sold for that specific purpose -- aluminum spikes, I think. Janet
I have some. Work nicely, too. Easy to make yourself--buy some heavy (at least 1/8"😉 aluminum ground wire (solid, not multistrand). Radio Shack, Home Depot, etc would have it. Cut a piece 8 or 9 inches long, cutting the end on the bias so it's sharp. Straighten it. Bend the other end to form a loop. Run the spike through the potato.
-- -denny- "Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"
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When we were camping, mom would use this very large, thick ten penny nail (always kept clean and just used for this purpose) and stick it thru the middle of potatoes then wrap them in foil to roast in the campfire. She said the nail would carry heat to the center of the spud for faster and more even cooking.
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At one time, devices just like your nail were sold for that specific purpose -- aluminum spikes, I think. Janet
I have some. Work nicely, too. Easy to make yourself--buy some heavy (at least 1/8"😉 aluminum ground wire (solid, not multistrand). Radio Shack, Home Depot, etc would have it. Cut a piece 8 or 9 inches long, cutting the end on the bias so it's sharp. Straighten it. Bend the other end to form a loop. Run the spike through the potato.
-- -denny- "Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"
That's actually not a bad price, and Stainless would be better, thanks!
Not so. Aluminum is a FAR better conductor of heat than stainless. (as of course is copper--which is why so many stainless pots/pans have aluminum or copper inserts in the bottoms)
-- -denny- "Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"
That's actually not a bad price, and Stainless would be better, thanks!
Not so. Aluminum is a FAR better conductor of heat than stainless. (as of course is copper--which is why so many stainless pots/pans have aluminum or copper inserts in the bottoms)
-- -denny- "Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"
That's actually not a bad price, and Stainless would be better, thanks!
Not so. Aluminum is a FAR better conductor of heat than stainless. (as of course is copper--which is why so many stainless pots/pans have aluminum or copper inserts in the bottoms)
-- -denny- "Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"
Still, I always covet those big nails in the hardware section -- I've been seriously tempted to buy a half dozen for potatoes but I've always thought that it might leave a rusty mark.
There are big (6-8"😉 aluminum nails used for mounting aluminum gutters. Might find some of those. Unless you've an aluminum issue, it's better, given its heat conductivity.
-- -denny- "Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"
Still, I always covet those big nails in the hardware section -- I've been seriously tempted to buy a half dozen for potatoes but I've always thought that it might leave a rusty mark.
There are big (6-8"😉 aluminum nails used for mounting aluminum gutters. Might find some of those. Unless you've an aluminum issue, it's better, given its heat conductivity.
-- -denny- "Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"
Still, I always covet those big nails in the hardware section -- I've been seriously tempted to buy a half dozen for potatoes but I've always thought that it might leave a rusty mark.
There are big (6-8"😉 aluminum nails used for mounting aluminum gutters. Might find some of those. Unless you've an aluminum issue, it's better, given its heat conductivity.
-- -denny- "Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"
If you put aluminum foil over lasagne or any other acidic foods and the foil touches the food, it will eat holes right into the foil leaving the grey deposits on the food. Yuk! When I freeze lasagne or other acidic foods in trays with foil lids, I lay a sheet of wax paper on top then the foil to prevent this problem.
I use plastic wrap, but yeah, wrapping potatoes in foil is a bad idea too but there is not much else you can do with a campfire, but at least the potatoe skin is not wet so it does not seem to matter as much as putting an aluminum spike into the potato flesh.
I saw a news segment recently that said buying potatoes pre-wrapped in foil is a bad idea. These are available in the grocery stores. For camp baked potatoes you really do need to wrap in foil. We do an over version wrapped in foil too. I think where the problem comes in is potatoes wrapped in foil while raw and then left that way for a few days before actually cooking them as the ones pre-wrapped in the stores. I don't think there is a real problem if you wrap them in foil just before cooking. I wouldn't use an aluminum spike though.
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I hate aluminum.
I do and I don't. For the aluminum pressure canner that does not come into direct contact with foods, aluminum is fine. As a means of covering foods, making foil packs, etc, aluminum foil is fine. I wouldn't cook anything high acid in aluminum pot. The only aluminum pot I have is a 6L pressure cooker soon to be replaced with stainless steel.
I have all stainless steel and cast iron cookware.
I use silpats on the cookie sheets. ;-) And use glass for cakes and pies.
I like the silicone cookie sheets and I use parchment paper. I don't have any glass bakeware aside of casserole dishes.
If you put aluminum foil over lasagne or any other acidic foods and the foil touches the food, it will eat holes right into the foil leaving the grey deposits on the food. Yuk! When I freeze lasagne or other acidic foods in trays with foil lids, I lay a sheet of wax paper on top then the foil to prevent this problem.
I use plastic wrap, but yeah, wrapping potatoes in foil is a bad idea too but there is not much else you can do with a campfire, but at least the potatoe skin is not wet so it does not seem to matter as much as putting an aluminum spike into the potato flesh.
I saw a news segment recently that said buying potatoes pre-wrapped in foil is a bad idea. These are available in the grocery stores. For camp baked potatoes you really do need to wrap in foil. We do an over version wrapped in foil too. I think where the problem comes in is potatoes wrapped in foil while raw and then left that way for a few days before actually cooking them as the ones pre-wrapped in the stores. I don't think there is a real problem if you wrap them in foil just before cooking. I wouldn't use an aluminum spike though.
We are in agreement then. :-)
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>I hate aluminum.
I do and I don't. For the aluminum pressure canner that does not come into direct contact with foods, aluminum is fine. As a means of covering foods, making foil packs, etc, aluminum foil is fine. I wouldn't cook anything high acid in aluminum pot. The only aluminum pot I have is a 6L pressure cooker soon to be replaced with stainless steel.
I have all stainless steel and cast iron cookware.
I use silpats on the cookie sheets. ;-) And use glass for cakes and pies.
I like the silicone cookie sheets and I use parchment paper. I don't have any glass bakeware aside of casserole dishes.
Cassarole dishes are great for sheet cakes.
I have to have glass cookware available for the microwave, so I also have corningware and it comes in round shapes for round layer cakes... IMHO sheet cakes are more convenient for general use. -- Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
