Another saddle question

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The last saddle I used was the WTB SST98, which I liked except for one small problem. After about
2 1/2 hours of riding, the extreme lower bones of the pelvis was killing me, and this has ended
rides prematurely. The areas in question is just to the outsides of the recessed saddles designed
to take pressure off the prostrate. Has anyone else had this problem, and what saddles have they
found that has alleviated these pressure points? Many thanks in advance.

Not yet...got a new San Marco "Aero" which I haven't used for any length of time yet. It also has a
cutout to relieve pressure. My longest ride on it has been a measly 1hr so hope to do some more on
it very soon.

Will report as soon as I have any news (though I realise we're all shaped differently).

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The last saddle I used was the WTB SST98, which I liked except for one small problem. After
about 2 1/2 hours of riding, the extreme lower bones of the pelvis was killing me, and this has
ended rides prematurely. The areas in question is just to the outsides of the recessed saddles
designed to take pressure off the prostrate. Has anyone else had this problem, and what saddles
have they found that has alleviated these pressure points? Many thanks in advance.

Not yet...got a new San Marco "Aero" which I haven't used for any length

of

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time yet. It also has a cutout to relieve pressure. My longest ride on it has been a measly 1hr so
hope to do some more on it very soon.

The pressure that is getting me 'is not' where the cutout is, but just to the outsides of where they
are usually located. It's the two pointy bones at the bottom of my pelvis.

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Will report as soon as I have any news (though I realise we're all shaped differently).

Please do.

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The last saddle I used was the WTB SST98, which I liked except for one small problem. After
about 2 1/2 hours of riding, the extreme lower bones of the pelvis was killing me, and this
has ended rides prematurely. The areas in question is just to the outsides of the recessed
saddles designed to take pressure off the prostrate. Has anyone else had this problem, and
what saddles have they found that has alleviated these pressure points? Many thanks in
advance.

Not yet...got a new San Marco "Aero" which I haven't used for any length

of

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time yet. It also has a cutout to relieve pressure. My longest ride on

it

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has been a measly 1hr so hope to do some more on it very soon.

The pressure that is getting me 'is not' where the cutout is, but just to the outsides of where
they are usually located. It's the two pointy bones

at

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the bottom of my pelvis.

That's the saddle "working". It's supposed to do that and your sits bones should toughen up after
a while. I get the same thing every spring when the snow melts and the bike comes back into
regular rotation.

Matt

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The pressure that is getting me 'is not' where the cutout is, but just to the outsides of where
they are usually located. It's the two pointy bones at the bottom of my pelvis.

Those "pointy bones" you refer to. They wouldn't be your sit-bones by any chance would they? lol

Anyway, if so you're quite lucky I think. Mine are wider than the edges of the cutout so I have to
sit right back on the saddle to make sure they're being used for what they've been designed. The
cutout seems long enough that this works - besides which I'd normally fidget about quite a bit on
the saddle anyway.

I still think a toilet seat would be the ultimate...

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The last saddle I used was the WTB SST98, which I liked except for one small problem. After about 2
1/2 hours of riding, the extreme lower bones of the pelvis was killing me, and this has ended rides
prematurely. The areas in question is just to the outsides of the recessed saddles designed to take
pressure off the prostrate. Has anyone else had this problem, and what saddles have they found that
has alleviated these pressure points?

I still have that problem, but to a lesser degree since I woke up to the fact that my body had found
KOPS with my butt on the very rear edge of the saddle - and switched to a 2" setback seatpost.

2 1/2 hours rings true for an initial feeling that something's not quite right. But it's a little
more...maybe like 2.75 or 3 hours before I'm *really* obsessing about a nice warm shower - and on
weekends I routinely do 4-6 hours "on the road"...but with breaks so my butt doesn't come home all
that sore.

My take is that it's saddle width. The indents made by my own butt bones measure 4.5"
center-to-center. Although that's nominally still on the surface of many saddles, for most of them
it's out on the edge where there's a reinforced area that's very hard. Take a look at the underside
of an WTB Speed-V for a classic example - it's even color-coded....grey=soft, black=concrete.

My current partial cure is a Brooks B-17 saddle - about the same width (170mm) as a lot of other
saddles but, because of it's construction, not hard out on the edges. "Partial" because I'm still
out on the edges and not fully supported and, as you note, almost back on the rivets even with the
setback post.

Some time ago, Brooks came out with a 160mm B-17N (narrow?); but they never came out with a "W" at,
say 180mm.

The saddles I know of measure like 160, 165, 170, and then jump to the really humongous ones over
200mm with too much padding.

Seems like there's something missing.... Why doesn't WTB make the Speed-V in 5mm increments from 150
to 190? Or why doesn't somebody with a lot of time and some cash start a cottage "custom saddle"
business making $200 saddles to fit the butt-bone imprints that customers send in?

At the Jersey shore, people impulse-buy $250 sunglasses. I'd think a significant number of people
from a techweenie-ish group like bikers would put out the bucks for a saddle made just for
them...especially if it worked....

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Pete "Broad Butt" Cresswell

I've been happy with my Selle Italia Max Flite TransAm. It alleviates the pressure point you
mentioned.

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The last saddle I used was the WTB SST98, which I liked except for one

small

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problem. After about 2 1/2 hours of riding, the extreme lower bones of the pelvis was killing me,
and this has ended rides prematurely. The areas in question is just to the outsides of the
recessed saddles designed to take pressure off the prostrate. Has anyone else had this problem,
and what saddles have they found that has alleviated these pressure points? Many thanks in
advance.

Mark

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My current partial cure is a Brooks B-17 saddle - about the same width

(170mm)

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as a lot of other saddles but, because of it's construction, not hard out

on the

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edges. "Partial" because I'm still out on the edges and not fully

supported

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and, as you note, almost back on the rivets even with the setback post.

Some time ago, Brooks came out with a 160mm B-17N (narrow?); but they

never

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came out with a "W" at, say 180mm.

The saddles I know of measure like 160, 165, 170, and then jump to the

really

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humongous ones over 200mm with too much padding.

Seems like there's something missing.... Why doesn't WTB make the Speed-V

in

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5mm increments from 150 to 190? Or why doesn't somebody with a lot of

time and

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some cash start a cottage "custom saddle" business making $200 saddles to

fit

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the butt-bone imprints that customers send in?

I think you hit the nail on the head for me. I just measured my old saddle at it's widest point.
147mm!! I'm off to research saddle widths....

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Pete "Broad Butt" Cresswell

Yeah, that's me.

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I've been happy with my Selle Italia Max Flite TransAm. It alleviates the pressure point you
mentioned.

Thanks, it's on my research list.

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The last saddle I used was the WTB SST98, which I liked except for one

small

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problem. After about 2 1/2 hours of riding, the extreme lower bones of

the

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pelvis was killing me, and this has ended rides prematurely. The areas

in

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question is just to the outsides of the recessed saddles designed to

take

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pressure off the prostrate. Has anyone else had this problem, and what saddles have they found
that has alleviated these pressure points? Many thanks in advance.

Mark

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The pressure that is getting me 'is not' where the cutout is, but just to the outsides of where
they are usually located. It's the two pointy bones at the bottom of my pelvis.

Those "pointy bones" you refer to. They wouldn't be your sit-bones by any chance would they? lol

Anyway, if so you're quite lucky I think. Mine are wider than the edges of the cutout so I have to
sit right back on the saddle to make sure they're being used for what they've been designed. The
cutout seems long enough that this works - besides which I'd normally fidget about quite a bit on
the saddle anyway.

Pete brought up a very good point. My old saddle was too narrow for my wide ass. My 'sit bones' were
sitting on the hardest part.

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I still think a toilet seat would be the ultimate...

The padded ones, right?

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Seems like there's something missing.... Why doesn't WTB make the Speed-V in 5mm increments from
150 to 190? Or why doesn't somebody with a lot of time and some cash start a cottage "custom
saddle" business making $200 saddles to fit the butt-bone imprints that customers send in?

Another good reason to sit on the photocopier taking images of your ass.

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...meandering mule...