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Fixed Freewheel Clusters

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  1. I picked up a Shimano Fixed Freewheel sprocket set and Shimano-Schwinn Fixed Freewheel crankset.

    I was under the impression that there was a stiff rotation available to accomodate snagged chains rather than a complete fixed relationship at the cogset. Attempts to rotate the sprocket set on the splines are fruitless. Were there some cogsets that 1) are completely fixed; or 2) do the sprocket sets need more torque than fingers can provide; or 3) have I got a set that has frozen unduly?

    The spline pattern does not match the FR-1 pattern. Any idea which tool mates to these splines?

    Thanks

  2. meb wrote:
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    Quoted message said:

    Were there some cogsets that 1) are completely fixed; or 2)
    do the sprocket sets need more torque than fingers can provide

    1) yup
    2) nope

    Quoted message said:

    The spline pattern does not match the FR-1 pattern. Any idea which
    tool mates to these splines?

    FR-4.

    -Vee

  3. meb said:

    I picked up a Shimano Fixed Freewheel sprocket set and Shimano-Schwinn
    Fixed Freewheel crankset.

    I was under the impression that there was a stiff rotation available to
    accomodate snagged chains rather than a complete fixed relationship at
    the cogset. Attempts to rotate the sprocket set on the splines are
    fruitless. Were there some cogsets that 1) are completely fixed; or 2)
    do the sprocket sets need more torque than fingers can provide; or 3)
    have I got a set that has frozen unduly?

    There was once a Shimano system that had a fixed, non-freewheeling rear
    cluster and a non-fixed, freewheeling front chainring cluster. This
    allowed you to shift while coasting. You may have the rear part of that --
    the front bit ought to be clearly recognisable.

    Jasper

  4. A shy person said:

    I picked up a Shimano Fixed Freewheel sprocket set and Shimano-Schwinn
    Fixed Freewheel crankset.

    That's "Front Freewheel" not "Fixed Freewheel."

    See: http://sheldonbrown.com/shimano1982/pages/35.html

    Quoted message said:


    I was under the impression that there was a stiff rotation available to
    accomodate snagged chains rather than a complete fixed relationship at
    the cogset.

    That's correct.

    Quoted message said:

    Attempts to rotate the sprocket set on the splines are
    fruitless. Were there some cogsets that 1) are completely fixed;

    No.

    Quoted message said:

    or 2) do the sprocket sets need more torque than fingers can provide;

    Yes. Actually, each sprocket "freewheels" independently of the others,
    but it does take some torque to make it turn. Try it with a chain whip.

    Quoted message said:

    The spline pattern does not match the FR-1 pattern. Any idea which
    tool mates to these splines?

    Yes, see: http://harriscyclery.net/site/itemdetails.cfm?ID=569

    Another poster suggested the Park FR-4, but that will definitely _not_ fit.

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  5. Sheldon Brown said:
    Quoted message said:

    The spline pattern does not match the FR-1 pattern. Any idea which
    tool mates to these splines?

    Yes, see: http://harriscyclery.net/site/itemdetails.cfm?ID=569

    Another poster suggested the Park FR-4, but that will definitely _not_ fit.

    Ditto. I'm pretty sure the Shimano FFS "freewheels" used the smaller
    splines that required removal of the axle spacer to use the tool. The
    Bicycle Research BR-CT4 tool should work, also:
    http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?i&d=single&item_id=BR-CT4

    Jeff

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