Hic Jacet Mark Atkinson.

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Anybody know who he was, or why his monument should be where it is? One time
landlord, local farmer or what? Google doesn't know - not surprising really,
but someone must know.

Erm.....where is his monument?

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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:56:09 -0000, "Gordon Burns"
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| Anybody know who he was, or why his monument should be where it is? One time
| landlord, local farmer or what? Google doesn't know - not surprising really,
| but someone must know.

ROTFLMAO

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I know what Hic Jacet means, what does ROTFLMAO mean?

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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:56:09 -0000, "Gordon Burns"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

| Anybody know who he was, or why his monument should be where it is? One
time
| landlord, local farmer or what? Google doesn't know - not surprising
really,
| but someone must know.

ROTFLMAO

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Gordon Burns said:

I know what Hic Jacet means, what does ROTFLMAO mean?

Rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off

Cheers, Paul Gretton

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:12:18 -0000, "Gordon Burns"
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| I know what Hic Jacet means, what does ROTFLMAO mean?

Then why did you ask why his monument was where it is.

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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:12:18 -0000, "Gordon Burns"
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| I know what Hic Jacet means, what does ROTFLMAO mean?

Then why did you ask why his monument was where it is.

Because he wants to know who Mark Atkinson was and what his relation was
to the site of the monument, I'd guess...

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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:29:46 +0000, Peter Clinch <[email hidden]>
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| Dave Fawthrop wrote:
| > On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:12:18 -0000, "Gordon Burns"
| > <[email hidden]> wrote:
| >
| > | I know what Hic Jacet means, what does ROTFLMAO mean?
| >
| > Then why did you ask why his monument was where it is.
|
| Because he wants to know who Mark Atkinson was and what his relation was
| to the site of the monument, I'd guess...

I see graves and monuments as different things, in different places.
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| I know what Hic Jacet means, what does ROTFLMAO mean?

| >
| > Then why did you ask why his monument was where it is.
|
| Because he wants to know who Mark Atkinson was and what his relation was
| to the site of the monument, I'd guess...

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I see graves and monuments as different things, in different places.

It is near the summit of Caudale Moor.

Wainwright calls it a monument but doesn't give any further information
(in Book Two). His illustration shows a cairn with a cross on top. It
may also be a grave for all I know but ISTR that there is a more
conventional grave further down the hillside much closer to the
Kirkstone Inn than the position Wainwright marks for the monument on his
map. But as it was at least 15 years since I passed the grave I can't
recall any details.

--
Roger Chapman so far this year 61 summits
New - 28 (Marilyns 14, Nuttalls 5, Outlying Fells 10)
Repeats - 34 (Marilyns 16, Nuttalls 24, Wainwrights 12, Outlying Fells 0)

I know exactly where it is, and what the inscription means. What I want to
know is who was he? If those who don't know anything about the monument,
really don't need to make silly comments.

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Burns <[email hidden]> writes

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I know exactly where it is, and what the inscription means. What I want to
know is who was he? If those who don't know anything about the monument,
really don't need to make silly comments.

There's a photo of it here:

<http://www.andyfellwalker.com/Egg/Red_Screes_to_Caudale_Moor/112%20Mark%
20Atkinsons%20monument%20on%20Caudale%20Moor.htm>

and another here:

<http://www.leaney.org/lake_district_fell_photo.php?fell_id=caudale_moor&
photo=20030412k>

From

http://www.bassplace.freeserve.co.uk/wildcamp/lakes_2.htm

"Though there is little depression between them, many peakbaggers count
Caudale Moor proper and Stoney Cove Pike as two separate summits. To the
south of Caudale Moor is a cairn with a cross known as the Atkinson
memorial, which marks the spot where the ashes of the former licensee of
the Kirkstone Pass Inn were scattered some seventy years ago. He'd also
farmed this area and owned the land at the time of his death, although
now much of the fell belongs to the National Trust."

Regards
--
Neil Pugh

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Quoted message said:

Anybody know who he was, or why his monument should be where it is? One
time landlord, local farmer or what?

According to the late Harry Griffin ("Inside the Real Lakeland", pub. 1961),
Mark Atkinson bought the Kirkstone Inn on the day the World War 1 broke out.
When he died in 1930 his ashes were scattered on Caudale Moor and the
property then passed to his son. The Atkinson family were still the owners
of the inn in 1960, when Harry was writing his book.

Tony Simpkins

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Quoted message said:

Anybody know who he was, or why his monument should be where it is? One
time landlord, local farmer or what?

According to the late Harry Griffin ("Inside the Real Lakeland", pub. 1961),
Mark Atkinson bought the Kirkstone Inn on the day the World War 1 broke out.
When he died in 1930 his ashes were scattered on Caudale Moor and the
property then passed to his son. The Atkinson family were still the owners
of the inn in 1960, when Harry was writing his book.

Tony Simpkins

"Gordon Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Anybody know who he was, or why his monument should be where it is? One
time landlord, local farmer or what?

According to the late Harry Griffin ("Inside the Real Lakeland", pub. 1961),
Mark Atkinson bought the Kirkstone Inn on the day the World War 1 broke out.
When he died in 1930 his ashes were scattered on Caudale Moor and the
property then passed to his son. The Atkinson family were still the owners
of the inn in 1960, when Harry was writing his book.

Tony Simpkins

Thanks for both those replies, which is what I suspected. I actually have
Inside the Real Lakeland, I'll have to read it again. Perhaps that's where
the nugget was planted in my mind that he was from the pub. I'll buy you a
pint, if I see you in there on Saturday!

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"Gordon Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Anybody know who he was, or why his monument should be where it is? One
time landlord, local farmer or what?

According to the late Harry Griffin ("Inside the Real Lakeland", pub.
1961), Mark Atkinson bought the Kirkstone Inn on the day the World War 1
broke out. When he died in 1930 his ashes were scattered on Caudale Moor
and the property then passed to his son. The Atkinson family were still
the owners of the inn in 1960, when Harry was writing his book.

Tony Simpkins

Thanks for both those replies, which is what I suspected. I actually have
Inside the Real Lakeland, I'll have to read it again. Perhaps that's where
the nugget was planted in my mind that he was from the pub. I'll buy you a
pint, if I see you in there on Saturday!

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"Gordon Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Anybody know who he was, or why his monument should be where it is? One
time landlord, local farmer or what?

According to the late Harry Griffin ("Inside the Real Lakeland", pub.
1961), Mark Atkinson bought the Kirkstone Inn on the day the World War 1
broke out. When he died in 1930 his ashes were scattered on Caudale Moor
and the property then passed to his son. The Atkinson family were still
the owners of the inn in 1960, when Harry was writing his book.

Tony Simpkins

Thanks for both those replies, which is what I suspected. I actually have
Inside the Real Lakeland, I'll have to read it again. Perhaps that's where
the nugget was planted in my mind that he was from the pub. I'll buy you a
pint, if I see you in there on Saturday!

"Tony Simpkins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Gordon Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Anybody know who he was, or why his monument should be where it is? One
time landlord, local farmer or what?

According to the late Harry Griffin ("Inside the Real Lakeland", pub.
1961), Mark Atkinson bought the Kirkstone Inn on the day the World War 1
broke out. When he died in 1930 his ashes were scattered on Caudale Moor
and the property then passed to his son. The Atkinson family were still
the owners of the inn in 1960, when Harry was writing his book.

Tony Simpkins

In message <[email hidden]>, Gordon Burns
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Thanks for both those replies, which is what I suspected. I actually have
Inside the Real Lakeland, I'll have to read it again. Perhaps that's where
the nugget was planted in my mind that he was from the pub. I'll buy you a
pint, if I see you in there on Saturday!

I'll be in Pembrokeshire on the coast path on Saturday, so your money is
safe, unless you feel like popping down to the Farmers Arms in St
Davids.

If you're going to the Kirkstone Pass Inn I hope it's improved since the
last time I was there (admittedly a few years ago now). As I recall it
was full of signs forbidding various acts (carrying rucksacs, wearing
boots, no dogs, etc), only one beer on, no food, no crisps. We did
however get our photos taken by a coachload of Japanese tourists (some
very attractive young ladies as I recall, dirty old man that I am) as we
sat outside wearing acres of Goretex in a thin drizzle. No doubt they
were impressed by my 'hard man of the mountains' appearance.

We then went straight up Red Screes, a wonderful scramble, across the
top and down to the Golden Rule in Ambleside, a marvellous pub. My
terrier Whiz always enjoys a fight with the pub dog there, violent
little sod that she is!

Regards
--
Neil Pugh

In message <[email hidden]>, Gordon Burns
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Thanks for both those replies, which is what I suspected. I actually have
Inside the Real Lakeland, I'll have to read it again. Perhaps that's where
the nugget was planted in my mind that he was from the pub. I'll buy you a
pint, if I see you in there on Saturday!

I'll be in Pembrokeshire on the coast path on Saturday, so your money is
safe, unless you feel like popping down to the Farmers Arms in St
Davids.

If you're going to the Kirkstone Pass Inn I hope it's improved since the
last time I was there (admittedly a few years ago now). As I recall it
was full of signs forbidding various acts (carrying rucksacs, wearing
boots, no dogs, etc), only one beer on, no food, no crisps. We did
however get our photos taken by a coachload of Japanese tourists (some
very attractive young ladies as I recall, dirty old man that I am) as we
sat outside wearing acres of Goretex in a thin drizzle. No doubt they
were impressed by my 'hard man of the mountains' appearance.

We then went straight up Red Screes, a wonderful scramble, across the
top and down to the Golden Rule in Ambleside, a marvellous pub. My
terrier Whiz always enjoys a fight with the pub dog there, violent
little sod that she is!

Regards
--
Neil Pugh

In message <[email hidden]>, Gordon Burns
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Thanks for both those replies, which is what I suspected. I actually have
Inside the Real Lakeland, I'll have to read it again. Perhaps that's where
the nugget was planted in my mind that he was from the pub. I'll buy you a
pint, if I see you in there on Saturday!

I'll be in Pembrokeshire on the coast path on Saturday, so your money is
safe, unless you feel like popping down to the Farmers Arms in St
Davids.

If you're going to the Kirkstone Pass Inn I hope it's improved since the
last time I was there (admittedly a few years ago now). As I recall it
was full of signs forbidding various acts (carrying rucksacs, wearing
boots, no dogs, etc), only one beer on, no food, no crisps. We did
however get our photos taken by a coachload of Japanese tourists (some
very attractive young ladies as I recall, dirty old man that I am) as we
sat outside wearing acres of Goretex in a thin drizzle. No doubt they
were impressed by my 'hard man of the mountains' appearance.

We then went straight up Red Screes, a wonderful scramble, across the
top and down to the Golden Rule in Ambleside, a marvellous pub. My
terrier Whiz always enjoys a fight with the pub dog there, violent
little sod that she is!

Regards
--
Neil Pugh