General fitness, health and nutrition · Public discussion

Gohoctis?

Started by cytodd · · Last activity · 3 posts · 354 views

This thread is locked and is currently read-only.

Thread details

What we know about this thread

Original section
General fitness, health and nutrition
Published
30 October 2005
Last activity
30 October 2005
Original author
cytodd
Posts
3
Discussion status
Public discussion
Total views
354
Views / 30 days
0

The navigation and discussion metadata provide context. Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Showing posts 1–3 of 3
Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Text size
  1. When I was a 1950's teenager growing up in Long Island NY, I remember
    my mother occasionally going into NYC for dinner at various foreign
    restaurants. One night, she came home very excited about an appetizer
    she called "Gohoctis" or something that sounds similar. A waiter gave
    her the recipe which she made and it was amazing! Then I learned to
    make it and still make it to this day.

    Gohoctis turned out to be a variant on the hundreds to thousands of
    recipes for Steak Tartare. The recipe calls for about a pound of very
    lean double ground beefsteak thoroughly mixed with the yolk of one egg.
    Then the following ingredients were added:

    one minced yellow onion
    8 minced large garlic cloves
    1/2 Tbs grated horseradish
    1 Tbs sharp pot mustard
    chopped green olives
    1 can flat anchovy fillets chopped
    Worcestershire sauce
    Tabasco sauce
    flavored bread crumbs or wheat germ or bulghar added to thicken the mix
    to pate consistency.

    This mixture is left in the refrigerator to "mature" in a covered glass
    or metal bowl for 12 to 24 hours. It is served uncooked either cold or
    at room temperature on crackers or whole grain bread garnished with
    capers or thinly sliced red onion and lemon juice. The anchovy and
    garlic flavor predominates in this version.

    I've searched Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian, Russian, Greek, Turkish
    and Arabic cuisine for some raw beef dish with a name similar to
    "Gohoctis"; nothing. I Googled Gohoctis and all phonetically equivalent
    spellings I could think of. All I turned up was some weird stuffing for
    turkey.

    My guess was that the restaurant making this dish made up the name
    Gohoctis rather than calling it Steak Tartare so as to avoid the yuck
    factor some people have about eating raw beef and egg yolks.

    So has anyone ever heard of this dish or something sounding like it?
    I'd love to know if there really is some ethnic dish with this name and
    get the original recipe.

  2. On 29 Oct 2005 21:45:10 -0700, "cytodd" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    When I was a 1950's teenager growing up in Long Island NY, I remember
    my mother occasionally going into NYC for dinner at various foreign
    restaurants. One night, she came home very excited about an appetizer
    she called "Gohoctis" or something that sounds similar. A waiter gave
    her the recipe which she made and it was amazing! Then I learned to
    make it and still make it to this day.


    snip

    Quoted message said:

    My guess was that the restaurant making this dish made up the name
    Gohoctis rather than calling it Steak Tartare so as to avoid the yuck
    factor some people have about eating raw beef and egg yolks.

    So has anyone ever heard of this dish or something sounding like it?
    I'd love to know if there really is some ethnic dish with this name and
    get the original recipe.

    "Gehackte leber" is "chopped liver." I have a feeling that
    "gohocktis" is a misunderstanding of "gehackte" as the meat would be
    chopped.

    This may hold for German, too, but I do not know German culinary terms
    at all, just the little Yiddish I remember, but there are certainly
    German speakers around here.

    Boron

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    "Gehackte leber" is "chopped liver." I have a feeling that
    "gohocktis" is a misunderstanding of "gehackte" as the meat would be
    chopped.

    This may hold for German, too, but I do not know German culinary terms
    at all, just the little Yiddish I remember, but there are certainly
    German speakers around here.

    Boron

    LOL. I never would've thought about it from the original post ... but
    you are perfectly on target. "Gehacktes" is one generic German
    expression for minced meat. However, the combination with olives,
    anchovies and garlic most certainly is not from any German regional
    cuisine that I am aware of.

    Raw beef (minced fillet or rumpsteak, v. lean) or pork mince as a open
    sandwich topping is not unheard of, usually served with chopped onions,
    pepper and salt. Mostly no egg yolks either, the German way.

    -P.

    --
    =========================================
    firstname dot lastname at gmail fullstop com

Active in the last 60 minutes

Active in this thread

0 users · 0 guests ·0 bots ·0 total

No signed-in users are active right now.

No known search crawlers active right now.