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  1. hey guys, i was thinkin of riding this years la marathon on a uni. i
    currently own a 20 and a 24 inch, plus a 20inch giraffe. i was looking
    on unicycle.com for some distance cycles, what are your favs? i was
    thinking either a coker or something with a 29". whats your preferred
    tire widthe and crank length? thanks

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  2. I don't think most organized foot races would be too happy about having
    a unicyclist involved. You probably should ask first; maybe you can go
    with the wheelchairs.

    If I were riding in a big crowd of runners, I would want a 29er rather
    than a Coker, just for manuverability. I really like 125s on a 29er,
    but 150s might be more appropriate to the speed.

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  3. la marathon has a seperate marathon for runners, bikers, and wheelchair.
    ive been biking it for past 6 years and have seen a few unis, scooters,
    and other various wheeled objects

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  4. When is it this year? Are you gonna ride in the 50 mile bike part or is
    there a 26 mile route that they would allow unicycles in?

    I'd do it.

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  5. Nimbus 29er! I got one two days ago and I LOVE it. There is nothing
    bad about it at all, go for it! 🙂

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  6. OR a coker. Coker is awesome.

    (and I don't even have one. I'm just jealous of my brother.)

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  7. slip said:

    la marathon has a seperate marathon for runners, bikers, and wheelchair.
    ive been biking it for past 6 years and have seen a few unis, scooters,
    and other various wheeled objects

    Ah. So if it's a bike ride (hardly a marathon at 26 miles on bike),
    either a short-crank 29er or a Coker would do you well. That kind of
    distance should be reasonably doable on either configuration, as long
    as you've done a moderate amount of training.

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  8. ThisGuyIKnow said:

    When is it this year? Are you gonna ride in the 50 mile bike part or is
    there a 26 mile route that they would allow unicycles in?

    I'd do it.

    its on march 19th, the bike route is something like 22 miles. you
    should go man, another bud of mine might uni it with me, thatd be great
    to have a group of us haha.

    http://www.acuralabiketour.com/

    tholub said:

    (hardly a marathon at 26 miles on bike)

    yeah its not that much of a challenge, but its a great experience. the
    streets are all closed off and its really quiet out (middle of LA),
    the race starts at 6am right when the suns comin out, and its way
    beautiful. theres also like 26,000 people its insane.

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  9. slip said:

    hey guys, i was thinkin of riding this years la marathon on a uni. whats
    your preferred tire widthe and crank length? thanks

    The best combination for you will depend on a few factors:
    -your fitness
    -your experience at long distance riding
    -how much money you have to burn
    -how much time you have to train
    -the course you will be riding on (hilly or flat, nicely paved or lots
    of bumps, lots of traffic or nice clear roads etc)
    -what you plan to do in the future

    I suggest you begin by thinking about what kind of riding you plan to
    do in the long term. It is not a great idea to fork out hard earned
    cash for a unicycle that you will only need for one ride.

    You can do distance riding on a 24" wheel with short cranks BUT it will
    take longer to complete a marathon than using a bigger wheel. If you
    are fairly fit, you can pull out a 42km ride with little or no
    training. On a 24" wheel it will probably take you around 4 hours to
    complete it. (Although people have managed sub 2 hours 30 times on a
    24" wheel). If this is the only time you are planning on doing a
    longish ride then it is possible to stick with the 24" wheel.

    If you are planning on doing more long distance riding then it is
    probably worth investing in a commuter of some kind. The first
    decision is whether to go for a 28 / 29er or a 36 inch wheel. I'll
    lump the 28 and 29 inch sizes together as one as they are pretty
    similar.

    29ers are very versitile and manoueverable unicycles. They work well
    for inner city commutes where you have to start and stop a lot.
    Depending on components they can be very light weight which is a big
    plus if you are going on hilly rides. You can get a good cruising
    speed out of them, although a 36 inch wheel ridden by a good rider is
    capable of higher speeds. My daily commute to work takes around 50
    minutes on a 29er.

    36ers roll over just about anything once you get them up to speed but
    require a bit more effort to stop, start and turn. Getting up hills is
    harder work and they are not great for riding at slower speeds. Once
    you are cranking on a 36 though, you can really fly along and they are
    ideal for open road riding. Their size does count against them when
    travelling with them (they are harder to fit in a car or plane). On
    the other hand their size also makes them look more impressive when you
    go for a ride. The learning curve on a 36 is also a little steeper,
    especially when learning to mount. My daily commute takes around 45
    minutes on a 36er.

    If you plan on commuting around city areas then a 29er is a good
    choice. If you plan on doing more open road riding then it is probably
    better to opt for a 36.

    Regarding crank lengths, I suggest you start with fairly long cranks
    when first getting the hang of a commuter and then fit shorter ones
    once you are used to it. The more experienced long distance riders
    tend to run shorter cranks than those who are just starting out at
    distance riding. This is because shorter cranks make it easier to
    sustain higher pedaling cadences (and hence higher speed). Shorter
    cranks also make it harder to go up hills and turn, but you can
    compensate for that by getting fitter, stronger and more skilled at
    riding.

    I ride a 29er with 102s but would recommend no shorter than 125s until
    you have a few miles under your belt.

    I ride a 36er with 125s but would recommend no shorter than 150s until
    you have a few miles under your belt.

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  10. Re tyre width. A wider tyre (ie with higher volume) makes for a
    smoother ride. I have tried very narrow professional road tyres on a
    28 and they really don't work well for unicycles. It makes a lot
    harder to balance and you feel every bump.

    The logic behind using a narrow tyre is that it has less friction which
    means less effort to pedal. These savings are lost on a unicycle
    because you expend more energy on trying to keep the unicycle
    ballanced. Avoid anything less than an inch wide. I prefer at least a
    2 inch wide tyre for commuting.

    Also avoid putting a wide tyre on a narrow rim as that can be a recipe
    for punctures.

    Ideally find yourself a unicycle with a fairly wide rim that will take
    a nice 2.25 to 2.5 inch tyre with a smooth tread pattern.

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  11. Two words for the tire issue:

    'BIG APPLE'
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=674)

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  12. Two final words for the unicycle issue:

    'NIMBUS 29er'
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=791)

    By the way, the Nimbus 29er comes with the Big Apple plus it has great
    pedals, cranks, seat, and frame. The great thing about the frame is
    that it doesn't hit your knees like the Yuni or Semcycle (although the
    Yuni is worse because it sticks up). A Coker is OK, also, but your
    customization choices are fairly limited.

    Here is a '*15 SECOND VIDEO*' (http://tinyurl.com/c4yhf) of me riding
    my Nimbus 29er. And here is a '*PHOTO*' (http://tinyurl.com/abmpd) of
    the wheel and frame. Here is a '*PHOTO*' (http://tinyurl.com/dtd9h) of
    me wheelwalking it.

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  13. peter.bier said:

    The logic behind using a narrow tyre is that it has less friction which
    means less effort to pedal.

    Surprisingly, a narrow tyre has MORE rolling resistance than a wide
    tyre at the same pressure and tread. It does have less air resistance
    though, which is why racing bicyclists use them.

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  14. Klaas Bil said:
    peter.bier said:

    The logic behind using a narrow tyre is that it has less friction


    which

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    means less effort to pedal.

    Surprisingly, a narrow tyre has MORE rolling resistance than a wide
    tyre at the same pressure and tread. It does have less air resistance
    though, which is why racing bicyclists use them.

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    No, racing bicyclists use them because you can ride narrow tires at
    higher pressure than wide tires.

    If you want to verify this for yourself, try pumping a Big Apple up to
    130 psi. I recommend serious ear protection.

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  15. tholub said:

    No, racing bicyclists use them because you can ride narrow tires at
    higher pressure than wide tires.

    If you want to verify this for yourself, try pumping a Big Apple up to
    130 psi. I recommend serious ear protection.

    That's a valid point. But even if a Big Apple would tolerate 130 psi,
    they would be disadvantageous to racing bicyclists because of higher
    air resistance (of the tyres, and of the required wider frame).

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