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  1. Here is a great hint to save time for Thanksgiving or Christmas if you are
    cooking a Turkey.

    You can precook and slice your turkey up to a month ahead. Then, on the
    day; while all the side dishes are cooking; you take a roasting pan and line
    it with LETTUCE. A couple of layers. Put your turkey in, you can separate
    dark and white meat. Cover with another couple of layers of lettuce and put
    the lid on. Put in a 325* oven while you are cooking the potatoes and veg
    and reheating the gravy and stuffing. I imagine the stuffing can go in the
    oven too. Usually by the time everything else is ready, and you take the
    lid off the roasting pan it will be steaming and the turkey will be moist
    and delicious just like fresh cooked.

    This was a hint on a local TV station by the weatherman's mother who has
    been doing it this way for years. And I've been watching the station as long
    as he's been on there and everyone there raves about the results.

    MoM

  2. MoM said:

    You can precook and slice your turkey up to a month ahead. Then, on the
    day; while all the side dishes are cooking; you take a roasting pan and line
    it with LETTUCE. A couple of layers. Put your turkey in, you can separate
    dark and white meat. Cover with another couple of layers of lettuce and put
    the lid on. Put in a 325* oven while you are cooking the potatoes and veg
    and reheating the gravy and stuffing. I imagine the stuffing can go in the
    oven too. Usually by the time everything else is ready, and you take the
    lid off the roasting pan it will be steaming and the turkey will be moist
    and delicious just like fresh cooked.

    There is something sooooooooo wrong about this, to me. Part of my
    pleasure is the smell of roasting turkey (as well as all the labor) on
    the actual day of Thanksgiving. It feeds into my need for tradition.
    What do you serve and carve at the table? I don't have any trouble
    preparing a large meal with many different items on that day. It just
    takes planning. I had a neighbor once who roasted then sliced the turkey
    the night before and just let it sit out. It was so unappetizing, as
    well as a huge bacterial risk.

  3. Goomba38 said:

    There is something sooooooooo wrong about this, to me. Part of my
    pleasure is the smell of roasting turkey (as well as all the labor) on
    the actual day of Thanksgiving. It feeds into my need for tradition.
    What do you serve and carve at the table?

    I couldn't agree more. I remember having to sit in agony while Pop Pop
    carved the turkey at the head of the table in what seemed like slow-
    motion. He was such a ham when it came to carving the turkey! Proving
    that you can take ceremony TOO FAR! We've proundly carried on his
    tradition. 😄

    Andy
    Pop Pop, R.I.P.

  4. "MoM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1130157054.2f40514f0f950e04faf037e60817fe36@teranews...

    Quoted message said:

    Here is a great hint to save time for Thanksgiving or Christmas if you are
    cooking a Turkey.

    You can precook and slice your turkey up to a month ahead. Then, on the
    day; while all the side dishes are cooking; you take a roasting pan and
    line it with LETTUCE. A couple of layers. Put your turkey in, you can
    separate dark and white meat. Cover with another couple of layers of
    lettuce and put the lid on. Put in a 325* oven while you are cooking the
    potatoes and veg and reheating the gravy and stuffing. I imagine the
    stuffing can go in the oven too. Usually by the time everything else is
    ready, and you take the lid off the roasting pan it will be steaming and
    the turkey will be moist and delicious just like fresh cooked.

    This was a hint on a local TV station by the weatherman's mother who has
    been doing it this way for years. And I've been watching the station as
    long as he's been on there and everyone there raves about the results.

    MoM

    The world is full of people who rave about bad food. Sounds like a
    disaster.

    --
    Peter Aitken
    Visit my recipe and kitchen myths page at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

  5. "Peter Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "MoM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Here is a great hint to save time for Thanksgiving or Christmas if you
    are cooking a Turkey.

    You can precook and slice your turkey up to a month ahead. Then, on the
    day; while all the side dishes are cooking; you take a roasting pan and
    line it with LETTUCE. A couple of layers. Put your turkey in, you can
    separate dark and white meat. Cover with another couple of layers of
    lettuce and put the lid on. Put in a 325* oven while you are cooking the
    potatoes and veg and reheating the gravy and stuffing. I imagine the
    stuffing can go in the oven too. Usually by the time everything else is
    ready, and you take the lid off the roasting pan it will be steaming and
    the turkey will be moist and delicious just like fresh cooked.

    This was a hint on a local TV station by the weatherman's mother who has
    been doing it this way for years. And I've been watching the station as
    long as he's been on there and everyone there raves about the results.

    MoM

    The world is full of people who rave about bad food. Sounds like a
    disaster.

    --
    Peter Aitken
    Visit my recipe and kitchen myths page at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm


    And just how would you know? I know the woman is a fantastic cook.
    Actually, so am I. If the idea I suggested
    turns out a product just as good as fresh roasted turkey, why not do it and
    spend the time saved with the family instead
    of in the kitchen.

    But then, there is always someone who will knock a good thing.

    MoM

  6. "MoM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Actually, so am I. If the idea I suggested
    turns out a product just as good as fresh roasted turkey, why not do it
    and spend the time saved with the family instead
    of in the kitchen.

    Actually, I've found that turkey tends to suffer a bit when frozen, mostly
    in taste, not texture. Doesn't seem to matter how I reheat it.

  7. Peter Aitken said:

    The world is full of people who rave about bad food.

    Don't I know it.

    I am planning a Thanksgiving dinner for a bunch of traveling nurses
    who are on assignment here in the SF bay area. Due to many of us
    working on Thanksgiving, we will more than likely be having dinner the
    weekend after.

    Of this group, there are a few nurses that proclaim that they are good
    cooks, and they offered to help with the cooking, and putting on the
    meal.

    One suggested to me (knowing that I love to cook) that she could go
    pick up some pies from Costco, since it would save a lot of time, and
    "Costco does a great Pumpkin pie and other desserts that are just
    like home made". She suggested that we didn't need to kill ourselves
    doing this, which is true, but I am not going to sacrifice flavor and
    quality in the interest of expedience.

    I suggested to her that I preferred homemade. 😉 Now I am wondering
    what her idea of good homemade food is, if she thinks Costco pies are
    just like homemade.

    Christine

  8. "Christine Dabney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Peter Aitken said:

    The world is full of people who rave about bad food.

    Don't I know it.

    I am planning a Thanksgiving dinner for a bunch of traveling nurses
    who are on assignment here in the SF bay area. Due to many of us
    working on Thanksgiving, we will more than likely be having dinner the
    weekend after.

    Of this group, there are a few nurses that proclaim that they are good
    cooks, and they offered to help with the cooking, and putting on the
    meal.

    One suggested to me (knowing that I love to cook) that she could go
    pick up some pies from Costco, since it would save a lot of time, and
    "Costco does a great Pumpkin pie and other desserts that are just
    like home made". She suggested that we didn't need to kill ourselves
    doing this, which is true, but I am not going to sacrifice flavor and
    quality in the interest of expedience.

    I suggested to her that I preferred homemade. 😉 Now I am wondering
    what her idea of good homemade food is, if she thinks Costco pies are
    just like homemade.

    Christine

    Maybe she ate most of her meals on airplanes while growing up.

  9. Christine Dabney said:
    Peter Aitken said:

    The world is full of people who rave about bad food.

    Don't I know it.

    I am planning a Thanksgiving dinner for a bunch of traveling nurses
    who are on assignment here in the SF bay area. Due to many of us
    working on Thanksgiving, we will more than likely be having dinner the
    weekend after.

    Of this group, there are a few nurses that proclaim that they are good
    cooks, and they offered to help with the cooking, and putting on the
    meal.

    One suggested to me (knowing that I love to cook) that she could go
    pick up some pies from Costco, since it would save a lot of time, and
    "Costco does a great Pumpkin pie and other desserts that are just
    like home made". She suggested that we didn't need to kill ourselves
    doing this, which is true, but I am not going to sacrifice flavor and
    quality in the interest of expedience.

    I suggested to her that I preferred homemade. 😉 Now I am wondering
    what her idea of good homemade food is, if she thinks Costco pies are
    just like homemade.

    Christine

    It may have less to do with Costco than with what the woman likes in
    pumpkin pie. "Just like mama used to make" can vary from yummy to
    halacious.

    By the way, some of Costco's baked goods are very good. The trick is
    knowing which ones they are. They have some of the best croissants I
    have had on the East Coast. Just heat in a hot oven. Their rugelach
    are wonderful, too, as are their pound cakes. I am not a fan of their
    pies, but that is because of the crust. Their fillings are often very
    nice.

    Boron

  10. MoM said:


    And just how would you know? I know the woman is a fantastic cook.
    Actually, so am I. If the idea I suggested
    turns out a product just as good as fresh roasted turkey, why not do it and
    spend the time saved with the family instead
    of in the kitchen.

    But then, there is always someone who will knock a good thing.

    Leaving aside whether pre-cooked, frozen, thawed, reheated turkey
    slices can ever be as good as freshly made and carved, it doesn't even
    sound like big time savings to me. The only part of the process you've
    really eliminated is carving. It isn't as though roasting a turkey
    involves much more than turning on the oven and sticking the bird in.
    For us, the carving and presentation of the bird is part of the fun of
    the day, and you've taken that away. -aem

  11. "MoM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Here is a great hint to save time for Thanksgiving or Christmas if you are
    cooking a Turkey.

    You can precook and slice your turkey up to a month ahead. Then, on the
    day; while all the side dishes are cooking; you take a roasting pan and
    line it with LETTUCE. A couple of layers. Put your turkey in, you can
    separate dark and white meat.

    Wait a minute. What has the sliced turkey been doing for a month? :-) I
    think we're all assuming it was frozen. Any special instructions for the
    wrapping and freezing? Do you defrost overnight, or just chuck it on top of
    the lettuce frozen?

    I don't think I would use this method for Thanksgiving dinner, but it might
    be handy to know about if you're making a huge dinner...e.g. a church supper
    or something like that.

    Anyhow, for me, the best part of Thanksgiving is not the turkey. Every
    year, my in-laws go up to Pennsylvania and get a fresh turkey from this
    specialty turkey place. I'm no more impressed with it than I am with the
    previously-frozen supermarket turkeys my mom used to buy. I'm a side dish
    girl, myself.

    Chris

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    aem said:
    MoM said:


    And just how would you know? I know the woman is a fantastic cook.
    Actually, so am I. If the idea I suggested
    turns out a product just as good as fresh roasted turkey, why not do it and
    spend the time saved with the family instead
    of in the kitchen.

    But then, there is always someone who will knock a good thing.

    Leaving aside whether pre-cooked, frozen, thawed, reheated turkey
    slices can ever be as good as freshly made and carved, it doesn't even
    sound like big time savings to me. The only part of the process you've
    really eliminated is carving. It isn't as though roasting a turkey
    involves much more than turning on the oven and sticking the bird in.
    For us, the carving and presentation of the bird is part of the fun of
    the day, and you've taken that away. -aem

    It's the timing and getting the birdy out and sliced and the gravy made
    from the drippings and the potatoes mashed and everything needs to be
    ready and hot at the same time. Dressing cooked outside the bird seems
    to be in vogue now and that takes some of the pressure off. Some
    people just don't function well when they're under stress. I can deal
    but I know those who can't.

    The year that I did the turkey the day before and had it and the gravy
    all ready was the easiest and most pleasant Thanksgiving Day I've had.
    I was drinking wine with my guests instead of buzzing about in the
    kitchen. Food was good, too.
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 10-20-05 with a note from Niece Jo.

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Goomba38 said:
    MoM said:

    You can precook and slice your turkey up to a month ahead.


    (details snipped)

    Quoted message said:


    There is something sooooooooo wrong about this, to me. Part of my
    pleasure is the smell of roasting turkey (as well as all the labor) on
    the actual day of Thanksgiving. It feeds into my need for tradition.
    What do you serve and carve at the table? I don't have any trouble
    preparing a large meal with many different items on that day. It just
    takes planning. I had a neighbor once who roasted then sliced the turkey
    the night before and just let it sit out. It was so unappetizing, as
    well as a huge bacterial risk.

    Sure, but if big meal productions stress out the cook to the point of
    getting ugly about things, what the heck. Emily Post or someone always
    said that the success of a dinner hinged on what was on the chairs, not
    on the plates. (And our tradition never did involve carving a bird at
    table. To me, BFD.)
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 10-20-05 with a note from Niece Jo.

  14. "Boron Elgar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:54:53 -0700, Christine Dabney
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    It may have less to do with Costco than with what the woman likes in
    pumpkin pie. "Just like mama used to make" can vary from yummy to
    halacious.

    By the way, some of Costco's baked goods are very good. The trick is
    knowing which ones they are. They have some of the best croissants I
    have had on the East Coast. Just heat in a hot oven. Their rugelach
    are wonderful, too, as are their pound cakes. I am not a fan of their
    pies, but that is because of the crust. Their fillings are often very
    nice.

    Boron

    Don't forget their bagels! Almost as good as New York.......

    kili

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    Quoted message said:


    "MoM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Here is a great hint to save time for Thanksgiving or Christmas if you


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cooking a Turkey.

    You can precook and slice your turkey up to a month ahead. Then, on the
    day; while all the side dishes are cooking; you take a roasting pan and
    line it with LETTUCE. A couple of layers. Put your turkey in, you can
    separate dark and white meat.

    Wait a minute. What has the sliced turkey been doing for a month? :-) I
    think we're all assuming it was frozen. Any special instructions for the
    wrapping and freezing? Do you defrost overnight, or just chuck it on top


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the lettuce frozen?

    I don't think I would use this method for Thanksgiving dinner, but it


    might

    Quoted message said:

    be handy to know about if you're making a huge dinner...e.g. a church


    supper

    Quoted message said:

    or something like that.

    Anyhow, for me, the best part of Thanksgiving is not the turkey. Every
    year, my in-laws go up to Pennsylvania and get a fresh turkey from this
    specialty turkey place. I'm no more impressed with it than I am with the
    previously-frozen supermarket turkeys my mom used to buy. I'm a side dish
    girl, myself.

    Chris

    I agree. Side dishes rule! The turkey is, well, just a turkey. I've never
    been especially fond of turkey, though. My husband's turkey is good,
    however. He injects it with garlic, butter and honey and then smokes it for
    about 4.5 hours. It comes out juicy, sweet and smokey. From now on, that's
    the only way you'll see me eating turkey.

    kili

  16. Barb said:

    The year that I did the turkey the day before and had it and the gravy
    all ready was the easiest and most pleasant Thanksgiving Day I've had.
    I was drinking wine with my guests instead of buzzing about in the
    kitchen. Food was good, too.

    My guests all tend to congregate around the kitchen anyway, so I might as
    well be cooking -- but that doesn't preclude drinking wine as well.

    Bob

  17. Boron said:

    By the way, some of Costco's baked goods are very good. The trick is
    knowing which ones they are. They have some of the best croissants I
    have had on the East Coast. Just heat in a hot oven. Their rugelach
    are wonderful, too, as are their pound cakes. I am not a fan of their
    pies, but that is because of the crust. Their fillings are often very
    nice.

    My local Costco regularly carries ciabatta from the La Brea Bakery, which
    is one of the best bread bakeries in the country. It's fantastic stuff. But
    pies are a different story. To my way of thinking, the pie crust is the
    most critical part of the pie, and if it's not good, then the pie isn't
    good.

    The best pie crust recipe I've found is the one from _CookSmart_. It's got
    cream cheese in the crust, which makes it a bit unusual, but wow, it makes a
    terrific cherry pie.

    Bob

  18. kilikini said:

    I agree. Side dishes rule! The turkey is, well, just a turkey. I've never
    been especially fond of turkey, though. My husband's turkey is good,
    however. He injects it with garlic, butter and honey and then smokes it for
    about 4.5 hours. It comes out juicy, sweet and smokey. From now on, that's
    the only way you'll see me eating turkey.

    kili

    I never understood why some people weren't crazy about turkey until
    one Thanksgiving I was a guest at a friend's house. The turkey was
    cooked without garlic. Then I understood...

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  19. "Curly Sue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    kilikini said:

    I agree. Side dishes rule! The turkey is, well, just a turkey. I've


    never

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    been especially fond of turkey, though. My husband's turkey is good,
    however. He injects it with garlic, butter and honey and then smokes it


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about 4.5 hours. It comes out juicy, sweet and smokey. From now on,


    that's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the only way you'll see me eating turkey.

    kili

    I never understood why some people weren't crazy about turkey until
    one Thanksgiving I was a guest at a friend's house. The turkey was
    cooked without garlic. Then I understood...

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

    You've just gotta have the garlic. Hands down. You gotta have the garlic.

    kili

  20. Melba's Jammin said:

    The year that I did the turkey the day before and had it and the gravy
    all ready was the easiest and most pleasant Thanksgiving Day I've had.
    I was drinking wine with my guests instead of buzzing about in the
    kitchen. Food was good, too.

    My guests tend to be in the kitchen with me, sharing some last minute
    vegetable prep or the like. That's part of the tradition and fun for me
    also. I've got my timing done so that I have plenty of time to visit
    until that last hour when making gravy, boiling and mashing the spuds
    and steaming up some veggies. Things I do ahead on that day like peel
    potatoes and leave in water, make my cheese sauce for the broccoli, my
    stuffing and dressing and the baking I do early in the day on TG and it
    gives me a long stretch of time with nothing needing attention.
    Goomba

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