winter clothing

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:28:01 -0500, Robert Megee <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

What good and what should one avoid wearing while
running in cold weather?

Wear all cotton, all the time.

wear a close layer of micro-fiber stuff, synthetic, and a loose outer
shell. cotton? i'm assuming that was a cruel joke.

avoid wearing a thong. chapped ass-cheeks can really put a damper on
your training.

This is good for all types of conditions and guaranteed to impress the
babes:http://www.xs4all.nl/~zappy/hazmat/beadle10.jpg

so like summer wear something to take the moisture from the body.
Is the outer shell to shield from the cold?

Quoted message said:

wear a close layer of micro-fiber stuff, synthetic, and a loose outer
shell. cotton? i'm assuming that was a cruel joke.

avoid wearing a thong. chapped ass-cheeks can really put a damper on
your training.

email hidden said:

This is good for all types of conditions and guaranteed to impress the
babes:http://www.xs4all.nl/~zappy/hazmat/beadle10.jpg

Why is he grabbing his crotch?

"Robert Megee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

What good and what should one avoid wearing while
running in cold weather?

Ignor those A-holes. Cotton is last thing you want in cold weather for a
run longer then a few miles. The FAQ was just posted and you might find
that disussed there. Take a look at http://www.roadrunnersports.com/ and
look at their clothes and note the variety of materials.

Donovan did some good stuff on running wear but I'm not sure where it
is.

_DF

Doug Freese said:

"Robert Megee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

What good and what should one avoid wearing while
running in cold weather?

Ignor those A-holes. Cotton is last thing you want in cold weather for a
run longer then a few miles. The FAQ was just posted and you might find
that disussed there. Take a look at http://www.roadrunnersports.com/ and
look at their clothes and note the variety of materials.

Donovan did some good stuff on running wear but I'm not sure where it
is.

http://www.pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/running/winter_reviews/

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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Quoted message said:

What good and what should one avoid wearing while
running in cold weather?

Robert

First, the others said it already. No cotton, ever.

I always have a polyester tee-shirt on the bottom, and usually a pair of
running shorts underneath. Swap the shorts for performance briefs if you
prefer snug-fitting pants. When it's really cold, I wear a long-sleeve
polyester with a turtleneck or crew neck.

A vest is a great thing for runners - it protects you from those cutting
blasts of wind but does not affect breathability like a sleeved shell.

On windy or wet days, I wear a windproof shell. Breathability and
adjustability is paramount. Running clothes are cut to fit right and
breathe when you're running, which is not the case for most sports jackets.
I do not recommend Gore-Tex or any shell that is coated on the inside - the
extra water resistance is not worth the breathability problems they add.

When it's not super windy or wet, I have a windproof fleece/knit jacket that
is simply great. (Nike Oregon series). Again, running specific models fit
better.

Socks should be somewhat cushy but not bulky (I wear very thin socks in
summer), again, not cotton. I have a couple pairs of Sporthill brand shell
pants, which are just nylon pants that are cut for running. Sporthill also
makes those great semi-tights, which are fine too.

For gloves, it's highly personal. Some people like those tiny stretch knit
gloves, but I have big hands and they don't work for me. I wear light
fleece gloves.

Definitely need a cap - knit stocking cap (pom-pom is optional :o) ) or the
stretch fleece kind. The ear bands are also good when it's not terribly
cold, or when the hat alone isn't enough. I also find that those neck
warmer things are really great when the temps dip close to 0F and windy.

Most of this running-specific stuff may not be in your closet right now.
It's easy to sink a few hundred bucks for winter gear, but I wait for sales
and use these pieces year after year. And when you're out there in horrible
conditions in relative comfort, it becomes a very sound investment.

Dave

David Geesaman said:

Most of this running-specific stuff may not be in your closet right now.
It's easy to sink a few hundred bucks for winter gear, but I wait for sales
and use these pieces year after year. And when you're out there in horrible
conditions in relative comfort, it becomes a very sound investment.

Some online discount places have decent prices even in-season. For example,
rei-outlet.com already have a few nice items.

e.g. Sporthill Catalyst Top (windproof fleece like your nike top), Sporthill
infuzion top (warm fleece top), a bunch of long sleeve tees (several brands),
pants and tights (hind/sporthill).

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Doug Freese said:

"Robert Megee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

What good and what should one avoid wearing while
running in cold weather?

Ignor those A-holes. Cotton is last thing you want in cold weather for a
run longer then a few miles. The FAQ was just posted and you might find
that disussed there. Take a look at http://www.roadrunnersports.com/ and
look at their clothes and note the variety of materials.

Donovan did some good stuff on running wear but I'm not sure where it
is.

_DF

Yes even I the once "all cotton" guy have been moving over to
synthetics.

But there is another aspect. You basically want to control your
exposure to the cold. The key to having control is layering. With
multiple layers you can remove a layer if it happens to warm up a bit.
With layers, even cotton can be decent for most runs. But the synthtics
have gotten much better.

Check the FAQ and enjoy the run,
Ed

Quoted message said:

Some online discount places have decent prices even in-season. For example,
rei-outlet.com already have a few nice items.

(I hate to admit I've been there but) Target and Walmarts are carrying
stuff
now for a third of the price of "brands" in sports stores- underarmor
knockoffs,
etc.

Ed Prochak said:

But there is another aspect. You basically want to control your
exposure to the cold. The key to having control is layering. With
multiple layers you can remove a layer if it happens to warm up a bit.
With layers, even cotton can be decent for most runs. But the synthtics
have gotten much better.

Ed is correct. It doesn't matter if it's cotton or syntethics, it's
the layers that count.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Some online discount places have decent prices even in-season. For
example,
rei-outlet.com already have a few nice items.

(I hate to admit I've been there but) Target and Walmarts are carrying
stuff
now for a third of the price of "brands" in sports stores- underarmor
knockoffs,
etc.

And some outstanding running-specific clothes can be found in those
stores that carry only closeout clothing, or outlets. My favorite windproof
fleece jacket is a Nike Oregon series that I got for $50 (reg. $150), and I
have two running vests that were $15 at a local close-out only store.

Dave

Quoted message said:

email hidden said:

This is good for all types of conditions and guaranteed to impress the
babes:http://www.xs4all.nl/~zappy/hazmat/beadle10.jpg

Why is he grabbing his crotch?

Good observation. The elite runner shown in the photo is about to use a
less publicized but very effective technique to measure his heart rate.
Exercise physiologists recommend NOT using this technique if an
individual is inclined to do a "recovery" in the bushes near a school
playground or while attending a church bake sale.

Good observation.

The observation, no sweat,
Small stuff.

The Big Stuff, still unresolved ~ !

email hidden said:

Good observation. The elite runner shown in the photo is about to use a
less publicized but very effective technique to measure his heart rate.
Exercise physiologists recommend NOT using this technique if an
individual is inclined to do a "recovery" in the bushes near a school
playground or while attending a church bake sale.

LMAO!

Donovan Rebbechi said:

Doug Freese said:

"Robert Megee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

What good and what should one avoid wearing while
running in cold weather?

Ignor those A-holes. Cotton is last thing you want in cold weather for a
run longer then a few miles. The FAQ was just posted and you might find
that disussed there. Take a look at http://www.roadrunnersports.com/ and
look at their clothes and note the variety of materials.

Donovan did some good stuff on running wear but I'm not sure where it
is.

http://www.pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/running/winter_reviews/

Cheers,

Thanks for the info. I knew that cotton was out.

Robert

Quoted message said:

I always have a polyester tee-shirt on the bottom, and usually a pair of
running shorts underneath. Swap the shorts for performance briefs if you
prefer snug-fitting pants. When it's really cold, I wear a long-sleeve
polyester with a turtleneck or crew neck.

A vest is a great thing for runners - it protects you from those cutting
blasts of wind but does not affect breathability like a sleeved shell.

On windy or wet days, I wear a windproof shell. Breathability and
adjustability is paramount. Running clothes are cut to fit right and
breathe when you're running, which is not the case for most sports jackets.
I do not recommend Gore-Tex or any shell that is coated on the inside - the
extra water resistance is not worth the breathability problems they add.

When it's not super windy or wet, I have a windproof fleece/knit jacket that
is simply great. (Nike Oregon series). Again, running specific models fit
better.

Socks should be somewhat cushy but not bulky (I wear very thin socks in
summer), again, not cotton. I have a couple pairs of Sporthill brand shell
pants, which are just nylon pants that are cut for running. Sporthill also
makes those great semi-tights, which are fine too.

For gloves, it's highly personal. Some people like those tiny stretch knit
gloves, but I have big hands and they don't work for me. I wear light
fleece gloves.

Definitely need a cap - knit stocking cap (pom-pom is optional :o) ) or the
stretch fleece kind. The ear bands are also good when it's not terribly
cold, or when the hat alone isn't enough. I also find that those neck
warmer things are really great when the temps dip close to 0F and windy.

Most of this running-specific stuff may not be in your closet right now.
It's easy to sink a few hundred bucks for winter gear, but I wait for sales
and use these pieces year after year. And when you're out there in horrible
conditions in relative comfort, it becomes a very sound investment.

Dave

I've begun getting the gear together. Got the socks a polyester
shirt, and a cap. Looking for sales for some shorts. A vest is
a great idea.

Robert

Robert Megee said:

so like summer wear something to take the moisture from the body.
Is the outer shell to shield from the cold?

Synthetic (or wool or silk) base layers under insulating layers. Shell
is to protect from the wind. Insulation is what provides warmth. I
usually wear separate wind protection layer from base/insulating layers
because anything I have that is windproof (in store, when you hold it
against your mouth, you can't breathe through it) doesn't breathe.
Layers that are wind-resistant don't offer enough wind protection when
the wind is blowing, at least where I am. And the ones that combine
insulation and some wind resistance are too warm to wear much above 0F.
But manufacturers are constantly coming up with new materials.

As others have said, you can get some inexpensive gear to get started at
Wal-Mart / Target and quality, but inexpensive, closeouts from Sierra
Trading Post or CampMor, REI outlets, etc.

When looking at shells be sure to recognize the difference between wind
resistant and windproof, water resistant and waterproof, breathable -
and what you really need.

Good luck.

Dot

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people or to stay in reasonable physical shape - but to find out more
about ourselves" - Owen Anderson