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  1. Not me... Hooves of Destiny (The website). I've spent the last few days
    learning rudimentary HTML and CSS in an attempt to make the website
    something other than a tangled mess of gibberish. Now it's a nicely
    coloured tangled pile of gibberish!

    There's also a sneak preview of Hooves2 in there.

    <url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk/index.html>

    In theory the "index.html" shouldn't be necessary, but for some reason
    the server seems to be caching the index.html file. Not my server. If it
    continues, I'll kick up a fuss!

    Jon

  2. Jon Senior said:

    <url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk/index.html>

    In theory the "index.html" shouldn't be necessary, but for some reason
    the server seems to be caching the index.html file. Not my server. If it
    continues, I'll kick up a fuss!

    Or on the other hand it might just be local caching!!! Time for bed
    methinks.

    <url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk> should work fine.

    Jon

  3. "Jon Senior" <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jon Senior said:

    <url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk/index.html>

    In theory the "index.html" shouldn't be necessary, but for some reason
    the server seems to be caching the index.html file. Not my server. If it
    continues, I'll kick up a fuss!

    Or on the other hand it might just be local caching!!! Time for bed
    methinks.

    <url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk> should work fine.

    Nope -- neither work with microsnot

    T

  4. "Tony W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jon Senior" <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jon Senior said:

    <url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk/index.html>

    In theory the "index.html" shouldn't be necessary, but for some reason
    the server seems to be caching the index.html file. Not my server. If


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    continues, I'll kick up a fuss!

    Or on the other hand it might just be local caching!!! Time for bed
    methinks.

    <url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk> should work fine.

    Nope -- neither work with microsnot

    Works ok for me, both Firefox and MS

    Nice, easy to read color scheme.

    --
    Duncan Gray

    The Mountaineering Council of Scotland
    www.mountaineering-scotland.org.uk

  5. Tony W said:

    Nope -- neither work with microsnot

    How strange. The website is mostly untested against IE, but you should
    have got something. Does it just display badly?

    I'll try testing it with IE when I pop into work today.

    Jon

  6. Jon Senior said:
    Jon Senior said:

    <url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk/index.html>

    In theory the "index.html" shouldn't be necessary, but for some reason
    the server seems to be caching the index.html file. Not my server. If
    it continues, I'll kick up a fuss!

    Or on the other hand it might just be local caching!!! Time for bed
    methinks.

    <url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk> should work fine.

    Jon

    Looks ok using Firefox on Linux (Gentoo). Any reason for using a
    frameset other than layout? If not, you can achieve that layout without
    having to use frames; which in some pony-tail rich environments are
    considered the Spawn-Of-Satan.

    Chris

  7. Chris Smith said:

    Looks ok using Firefox on Linux (Gentoo). Any reason for using a
    frameset other than layout? If not, you can achieve that layout without
    having to use frames; which in some pony-tail rich environments are
    considered the Spawn-Of-Satan.

    The frameset is a masking thing. The website is hosted in a subdirectory
    of www.restlesslemon.co.uk and the frameset is the forwarding system.
    Other than that... no reason at all. The frameset is not used for
    layout. Mark T's introduction to CSS got me started onto using CSS for
    layout design.

    Jon

  8. "Tony W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jon Senior" <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jon Senior said:

    <url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk/index.html>

    In theory the "index.html" shouldn't be necessary, but for some reason
    the server seems to be caching the index.html file. Not my server. If it
    continues, I'll kick up a fuss!

    Or on the other hand it might just be local caching!!! Time for bed
    methinks.

    <url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk> should work fine.

    Nope -- neither work with microsnot

    T


    Works fine on IE6 but not if you click on the link in either of the two
    posts above (using OE6) - you either have to enter the URL directly into the
    address bar or arrive there by other means (Google etc).

    Now if I talk nicely to my mate with the workshop....

  9. On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:45:04 +0100, Jon Senior

    jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk said:

    <url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk/index.html>

    FYI The "</html>" should be at the end of the document, after the
    closing </body> tag rather than before the DOCTYPE. The W3C validator
    will help spot this and other HTML issues: http://validator.w3.org/

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  10. John Wilton said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ><url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk/index.html>


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk> should work fine.

    Works fine on IE6 but not if you click on the link in either of the two
    posts above (using OE6) - you either have to enter the URL directly into the
    address bar or arrive there by other means (Google etc).

    Neither link actually appears as a clickable link in Thunderbird 1.0.6,
    I suspect it's because they lack the "http://". To test it, I'll try
    inserting it and see what happens:
    <url:http://www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk>

    Actually, let's try it without the http:// or the url marker or the
    chevrons, see how TB responds to that as well:
    www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk

    --
    Danny Colyer (my reply address is valid but checked infrequently)
    <URL:http://www.colyer.plus.com/danny/>
    "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

  11. In message <[email hidden]>, Danny
    Colyer <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    I said:

    Neither link actually appears as a clickable link in Thunderbird
    1.0.6, I suspect it's because they lack the "http://". To test it,
    I'll try inserting it and see what happens:
    <url:http://www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk>
    Actually, let's try it without the http:// or the url marker or the
    chevrons, see how TB responds to that as well:
    www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk

    They both work. But posting a link with a url marker and no http://
    doesn't.


    No, my newsreader(Turnpike) didn't like that either (or rather it
    ignored the url)

    --
    Chris French

  12. In message <[email hidden]>, Mark
    Thompson <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Danny Colyer wrote in news:43521fa9$0$49767$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-
    reader04.plus.net:

    Quoted message said:
    I said:

    Neither link actually appears as a clickable link in Thunderbird 1.0.6,
    I suspect it's because they lack the "http://". To test it, I'll try
    inserting it and see what happens:
    <url:http://www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk>

    Actually, let's try it without the http:// or the url marker or the
    chevrons, see how TB responds to that as well:
    www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk

    They both work. But posting a link with a url marker and no http://
    doesn't.

    ok, for me (using Xnews), these work:
    1. <url:http://www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk>
    2. www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk

    Yep work here

    Quoted message said:

    but this doesn't:
    3. <url:www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk>

    I post all my links the third way. Does this mean no one else can double-
    click onto the page?


    It's looking that way - well no idea what OE makes of it

    However, here , if you add a space after 'url:' , which I have a
    feeling was how it is in the RFC (BICBW) then it works here

    <url: www.hoovesofdestiny.co.uk>

    Actually , I don't tend to bother with the 'url' bit. for those
    newsreaders which do understand the <> delimiters this seems to work
    fine, most can extract various urls anyway, they mostly seem to help
    with those that wrap.
    --
    Chris French

  13. Stuart Millington said:

    FYI The "</html>" should be at the end of the document, after the
    closing </body> tag rather than before the DOCTYPE. The W3C validator
    will help spot this and other HTML issues: http://validator.w3.org/

    Oops. Rookie error! Probably the result of an abberant copy & paste!
    Corrected, as were the other errors. The only validation error now
    appears to be coming from the server itself.

    It will continue to develop over the next week, not least because I will
    add more photos of Hooves2 (As soon as I manage to find a reliable
    transfer method from work!).

    Jon

  14. Jon Senior said:

    Not me... Hooves of Destiny (The website).

    Aargh! Links that go to pages containing the words "Coming Soon"!

  15. Simon Bennett said:

    Aargh! Links that go to pages containing the words "Coming Soon"!

    One of which has now gone. They are a consequence of my planning the
    content before it was written and wishing to avoid having to redo the
    menu, which a lack of server side scripting has forced to be
    hand-tweaked for each page.

    The site may be moving to a home of its own soon which will hopefully
    make it easier to maintain!

    Jon

  16. On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:33:01 +0100, Jon Senior

    jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk said:
    Stuart Millington said:

    FYI The "</html>" should be at the end of the document, after the
    closing </body> tag rather than before the DOCTYPE. The W3C validator
    will help spot this and other HTML issues: http://validator.w3.org/

    Oops. Rookie error! Probably the result of an abberant copy & paste!
    Corrected, as were the other errors. The only validation error now
    appears to be coming from the server itself.

    The forwarding frame is, as usual, a problem.

    For the pages themselves you would need to either get the server admin
    to sort out an HTTP character set declaration or (much easier in most
    cases) add a character set declaration into the <head> in lieu of the
    server adding the correct one.

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