Progress report

That's not very good progress.

Try eating less and doing some exercise.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Alan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I started on a low carb diet about 3 months ago. I've finally plucked
up the courage to stand on a set of bathroom scales.

I'm a little disappointed, but (as mentioned in previous posts) I think
alcohol is my main enemy at the moment. But even so, 12lb lost in 3
months in someone my size - is that good, bad or indifferent?

This is a pound a week, which is good progress. Some folks lose faster than
that, but you are doing OK -ratewise.

Have you tried monitoring the process with Fitday?

http://www.FitDay.com

I have no connection to Fitday, except as a download customer.

Without measuring, you might not be doing the diet quite as you think you
are.

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

That's not very good progress.

Try eating less and doing some exercise.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Alan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I started on a low carb diet about 3 months ago. I've finally plucked
up the courage to stand on a set of bathroom scales.

I'm a little disappointed, but (as mentioned in previous posts) I think
alcohol is my main enemy at the moment. But even so, 12lb lost in 3
months in someone my size - is that good, bad or indifferent?

Is it super progress? Not really. In the same time period (I started on
7/20), from the same start point (264) at the same height (I'm just a
hair under 6'2"😉, I've lost 30+.

OTOH, you are 12#'s lighter, which is it's own reward.

I would suggest that if you are serious about reaching 200, or any goal
that is similarly dramatic, you cut the alcohol that you talked about
in your previous posts. If you want results that are strategic, you
have to be strategic about getting there, and that means making the
commitments to the things you will do and the things you won't do, that
will get you there. I would further suggest that if you really make the
commitment to getting there (cut the carbs, exercise, supplement,
minimize the booze, etc), you will get to where you want to be.

-Hollywood

Alan said:

I started on a low carb diet about 3 months ago. I've finally plucked
up the courage to stand on a set of bathroom scales.

Shortly before I started I think I weighed around 260lb (based on a
"weigh-in" at my doctor's surgery). I now weigh 248lb.

The sort of target weight I have in mind is around 200lb (6'2" tall and
very solidly built) although obviously I'll review that if (when) I get
there.

I'm a little disappointed, but (as mentioned in previous posts) I think
alcohol is my main enemy at the moment. But even so, 12lb lost in 3
months in someone my size - is that good, bad or indifferent?

(it's based on the assumption that both my scales and the doctor's are
both accurate, or at least inaccurate to the same extent - and that's a
hard one to justify, but I do know that the scales I have bought are
good quality which goes some way towards reassuring me).

Alan
260/248/200
(or in kg - which I am equally comfortable with - 118/112/91)

You're quite right about the alcohol. I do need to cut down on this
and I should also get more exercise. I've been fairly good in that
respect since my last posting but I still need to do more.

Yes, I've used Fitday - quite a clever bit of software.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/browse_frm/thread/47f8e4cd7a1d637e/4c4730bd4c0e676c?q=Alan+alcohol&rnum=3#4c4730bd4c0e676c

That's where the OP detailed his drinking habits. I suspect that
switching to LC beer would be a great step in the right direction. Of
course, cutting it altogether might work a little better.

After reading the OP's previous post, I think a good, regular dose of
B12 would help a lot. The supplementation is pretty important, and
frequently the easiest thing (after exercise) to skip.

Hollywood.

Quoted message said:

<snip>

All I can say about the alcohol thing is the only significant change
I have made in my drinking is switching entirely from regular to
'low-carb lite' beer. Nothing else has changed, I still drink from 1-3
drinks per day weekly average. I started LC on April 27th of this year,
and I've lost 75% of my intended weight-loss goal so far. I'm pleased
with my progress.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Max Hollywood Harris said:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/browse_frm/thread/47f
8e4cd7a1d637e/4c4730bd4c0e676c?q=Alan+alcohol&rnum=3#4c4730bd4c0e676c

That's where the OP detailed his drinking habits. I suspect that
switching to LC beer would be a great step in the right direction. Of
course, cutting it altogether might work a little better.

After reading the OP's previous post, I think a good, regular dose of
B12 would help a lot. The supplementation is pretty important, and
frequently the easiest thing (after exercise) to skip.

Hollywood.

Agreed... Somewhat, but IMHO B-complex is better.
It really does help to protect the liver, as do other antioxidants, A,
C, and E.

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I started on a low carb diet about 3 months ago. I've finally plucked
up the courage to stand on a set of bathroom scales.

Shortly before I started I think I weighed around 260lb (based on a
"weigh-in" at my doctor's surgery). I now weigh 248lb.

The sort of target weight I have in mind is around 200lb (6'2" tall and
very solidly built) although obviously I'll review that if (when) I get
there.

I'm a little disappointed, but (as mentioned in previous posts) I think
alcohol is my main enemy at the moment. But even so, 12lb lost in 3
months in someone my size - is that good, bad or indifferent?

Hey, 12 lbs is 12 lbs less you have to lose! I lose very slowly, so I
like to think of it in terms of how I would feel and look if I hadn't
lost ANY of the weight. It's taken me over two years to lose 78 lbs
(which averages out to about 3 lbs/month), but it's two years WELL
spent.

--
Saffire
205/127/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

*** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance
in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. ***

I wouldn't suggest doing LC with anything other than the full
supplementation as described in excruciating detail in Protein Power
and lesser detail in DANDR.

I only mentioned b-12 specifically, because the OP had written about
being kind of unhappy in an earlier post. I'm told B-12 helps with
that. I know that, for some, Prozac or some other SSRI works better,
though I would suggest seeing a doctor to get that done properly,
including monitoring. I have heard that St. John's Wort will do the
same, but that doesn't mesh with my experience, and I wouldn't push
people to herbal supplements, since that whole industry is an
unregulated mess.

-Hollywood

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Max Hollywood Harris said:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/browse_frm/thread/47f
8e4cd7a1d637e/4c4730bd4c0e676c?q=Alan+alcohol&rnum=3#4c4730bd4c0e676c

That's where the OP detailed his drinking habits. I suspect that
switching to LC beer would be a great step in the right direction. Of
course, cutting it altogether might work a little better.

After reading the OP's previous post, I think a good, regular dose of
B12 would help a lot. The supplementation is pretty important, and
frequently the easiest thing (after exercise) to skip.

Hollywood.

Agreed... Somewhat, but IMHO B-complex is better.
It really does help to protect the liver, as do other antioxidants, A,
C, and E.

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

Max Hollywood Harris said:

I wouldn't suggest doing LC with anything other than the full
supplementation as described in excruciating detail in Protein Power
and lesser detail in DANDR.

I only mentioned b-12 specifically, because the OP had written about
being kind of unhappy in an earlier post. I'm told B-12 helps with
that. I know that, for some, Prozac or some other SSRI works better,
though I would suggest seeing a doctor to get that done properly,
including monitoring. I have heard that St. John's Wort will do the
same, but that doesn't mesh with my experience, and I wouldn't push
people to herbal supplements, since that whole industry is an
unregulated mess.

-Hollywood

Good point. :-)

My personal favorite mood elevator is weight lifting. Heavy.
Gotta love that endorphin rush! <lol>
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Saffire wrote:

127 lbs Saffire? My goodness, you're withering away to
nothing :-)

Congratulations on your continued progress.

--
JJ.
275/180/180 - as of February 18, 2005 (adjusted target
weight)
Atkins since Sep 1, 2003
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jjsmythe/my_photos
1, 2, 3...98, 99, 100. Done!

Absolutely concur, though the B-12 or prescribed medication is pretty
helpful in getting to the first and back for the next few, before you
really get the big endorphins.

-Hollywood, who thinks if you take a lot of vectors on fixing
something, you have a better shot, especially if your vectors are based
in reality.

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Max Hollywood Harris said:

I wouldn't suggest doing LC with anything other than the full
supplementation as described in excruciating detail in Protein Power
and lesser detail in DANDR.

I only mentioned b-12 specifically, because the OP had written about
being kind of unhappy in an earlier post. I'm told B-12 helps with
that. I know that, for some, Prozac or some other SSRI works better,
though I would suggest seeing a doctor to get that done properly,
including monitoring. I have heard that St. John's Wort will do the
same, but that doesn't mesh with my experience, and I wouldn't push
people to herbal supplements, since that whole industry is an
unregulated mess.

-Hollywood

Good point. :-)

My personal favorite mood elevator is weight lifting. Heavy.
Gotta love that endorphin rush! <lol>
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

Max Hollywood Harris said:

Absolutely concur, though the B-12 or prescribed medication is pretty
helpful in getting to the first and back for the next few, before you
really get the big endorphins.

-Hollywood, who thinks if you take a lot of vectors on fixing
something, you have a better shot, especially if your vectors are based
in reality.

See... "Based in reality" is the trick. :-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Saffire wrote:

127 lbs Saffire? My goodness, you're withering away to
nothing :-)

Congratulations on your continued progress.

Thanks JJ!

Actually, I'm now waffling on whether or not to continue to my goal.
Since it's only two lbs, I probably WILL go on to 125 just so I can say
I reached it :-) I was kind of thinking I might go down as low as 120
or so, but I've noticed in the last couple of days that I've become
distinctly smaller all over than I was last week. If it goes according
to my pattern, that loss will show up on the scale sometime in the next
week or so (I tend to perceive a loss up to a week before the SCALE
perceives it). Parts of my body have become so saggy, however, that I
think I may halt the losing -- I looked in the mirror yesterday and
realized that the saggy part of my upper arms has entered a new realm of
sagginess that I REALLY don't like. Batwings are one thing -- WRINKLY
batwings are quite another :-( You relatively young'uns losing weight
probably don't have to deal with this as much, but at the age of 50, my
skin simply isn't going to snap back like it has in the past :-(

That said, I feel GREAT and (if you don't look too closely) I look
FABULOUS ;-)

--
Saffire
205/127/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

*** This post originated in alt.support.diet.low-carb -- its appearance
in any other forum is deceptive and unauthorized. ***

Saffire said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Actually, I'm now waffling on whether or not to continue
to my goal.
Since it's only two lbs, I probably WILL go on to 125 just
so I can
say I reached it :-)

I don't think that you have much of anything left to prove
but it is gratifying to make and achieve goals.

Quoted message said:

Parts of my body have become so saggy,
however, that I think I may halt the losing -- I looked in
the mirror
yesterday and realized that the saggy part of my upper
arms has
entered a new realm of sagginess that I REALLY don't like.
Batwings
are one thing -- WRINKLY batwings are quite another :-(

Well, I think that we often tend to be our own worst
critics.

Quoted message said:

You relatively young'uns

Surely you aren't including me in this group? Heck, had we
been in the same town at the time we would have been in high
school together. (Of course, you would have been a senior
and I would have only been a lowly sophomore ;-)

Quoted message said:

That said, I feel GREAT and (if you don't look too
closely) I look
FABULOUS ;-)

I don't know...it's been a LONG time since you've updated
your photos. (subtle, huh?) Seriously, I suspect how you
feel, and how you feel about yourself, counts for much.
You've done wonderfully, keep it up. Or down as the case
may be.

Take care.

--
JJ.
275/180/180 - as of February 18, 2005 (adjusted target
weight)
Atkins since Sep 1, 2003
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jjsmythe/my_photos
1, 2, 3...98, 99, 100. Done!

JJ said:

Saffire said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Actually, I'm now waffling on whether or not to continue
to my goal.
Since it's only two lbs, I probably WILL go on to 125 just
so I can
say I reached it :-)

I don't think that you have much of anything left to prove
but it is gratifying to make and achieve goals.

Quoted message said:

Parts of my body have become so saggy,
however, that I think I may halt the losing -- I looked in
the mirror
yesterday and realized that the saggy part of my upper
arms has
entered a new realm of sagginess that I REALLY don't like.
Batwings
are one thing -- WRINKLY batwings are quite another :-(

Well, I think that we often tend to be our own worst
critics.

Quoted message said:

You relatively young'uns

Surely you aren't including me in this group? Heck, had we
been in the same town at the time we would have been in high
school together. (Of course, you would have been a senior
and I would have only been a lowly sophomore ;-)

Quoted message said:

That said, I feel GREAT and (if you don't look too
closely) I look
FABULOUS ;-)

I don't know...it's been a LONG time since you've updated
your photos. (subtle, huh?) Seriously, I suspect how you
feel, and how you feel about yourself, counts for much.
You've done wonderfully, keep it up. Or down as the case
may be.

Take care.

I think we're all on some kind of roll here; I started induction Sun
afternoon and I'm down 5lbs as of today (Fri 10/14). Saffire - nice
going and thanks for all the stuff you upload.

bmcky

Boston, MA

Saffire <[email hidden]> wrote:

:> Actually, I'm now waffling on whether or not to continue to my goal.
:> Since it's only two lbs, I probably WILL go on to 125 just so I can
:> say I reached it :-) I was kind of thinking I might go down as low
:> as 120 or so, but I've noticed in the last couple of days that I've
:> become distinctly smaller all over than I was last week. If it goes
:> according to my pattern, that loss will show up on the scale
:> sometime in the next week or so (I tend to perceive a loss up to a
:> week before the SCALE perceives it). Parts of my body have become
:> so saggy, however, that I think I may halt the losing -- I looked in
:> the mirror yesterday and realized that the saggy part of my upper
:> arms has entered a new realm of sagginess that I REALLY don't like.
:> Batwings are one thing -- WRINKLY batwings are quite another :-(
:> You relatively young'uns losing weight probably don't have to deal
:> with this as much, but at the age of 50, my skin simply isn't going
:> to snap back like it has in the past :-(
:>
:> That said, I feel GREAT and (if you don't look too closely) I look
:> FABULOUS ;-)

Great work, Saffy!

"Saffire" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

but at the age of 50, my
skin simply isn't going to snap back like it has in the past :-(

Huge congratulations to you, Saffire, for sticking to it and getting down to
a hairsbreadth of goal.

Good news... based on my experience, even in your 50's the skin will
gradually "snap back". It definitely takes longer than when you are in your
20's or 30's, though. But gradually... gradually... one day you all of a
sudden notice things are looking a lot better. So hang in there on that,
too.

This may vary from person to person, granted. I suspect that a really
healthy diet, with lots of natural antioxidants, exercise to optimize
circulation, and an otherwise healthy lifestyle (minimize stuff like
alcohol and tobacco, other toxins of course) can make a difference.

Still, when I lost 70 pounds a couple of years ago I was really depressed at
how saggy my skin was - arms, legs, even my face to some extent. But
gradually it really improved, and I'm closer to 60 than 50. So there is
hope.

HG

Hannah Gruen <[email hidden]> wrote:
:> "Saffire" <[email hidden]> wrote in
:> message
:>
:>> but at the age of 50, my
:>> skin simply isn't going to snap back like it has in the past :-(
:>
:> Huge congratulations to you, Saffire, for sticking to it and getting
:> down to a hairsbreadth of goal.
:>
:> Good news... based on my experience, even in your 50's the skin will
:> gradually "snap back". It definitely takes longer than when you are
:> in your 20's or 30's, though. But gradually... gradually... one day
:> you all of a sudden notice things are looking a lot better. So hang
:> in there on that, too.
:>
:> This may vary from person to person, granted. I suspect that a really
:> healthy diet, with lots of natural antioxidants, exercise to optimize
:> circulation, and an otherwise healthy lifestyle (minimize stuff like
:> alcohol and tobacco, other toxins of course) can make a difference.
:>
:> Still, when I lost 70 pounds a couple of years ago I was really
:> depressed at how saggy my skin was - arms, legs, even my face to
:> some extent. But gradually it really improved, and I'm closer to 60
:> than 50. So there is hope.

I've always assumed you were 30ish, Hannah! 🙂

Funny how one's writings can give off false impressions.....or, one's
readings and interpretations 🙂