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  1. My husband and I spent the weekend in Nevada City and enjoyed some
    cornish pasties at a little shop. As we walked through the town and the
    nearby town of Grass Valley we looked in all the bookshops and kitchen
    shops for local cookbooks that would have a recipe. Not much luck.
    Recipes found said things like "make a less rich pastry dough, roll it
    out and top with fillings. Make sure potatoes drip into meat. Bake."

    Great if you have an idea what to do. Not so great for us. When we
    asked at one kitchen store the owner said you didn't need a recipe
    because you just made a less rich pastry dough etc. :-)

    Does anyone have a more detailed recipe they would be willing to share?

    thanks
    marcella

  2. "Marcella Peek" wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    My husband and I spent the weekend in Nevada City and enjoyed some
    cornish pasties at a little shop. As we walked through the town and the
    nearby town of Grass Valley we looked in all the bookshops and kitchen
    shops for local cookbooks that would have a recipe. Not much luck.
    Recipes found said things like "make a less rich pastry dough, roll it
    out and top with fillings. Make sure potatoes drip into meat. Bake."

    Great if you have an idea what to do. Not so great for us. When we
    asked at one kitchen store the owner said you didn't need a recipe
    because you just made a less rich pastry dough etc. :-)

    Does anyone have a more detailed recipe they would be willing to share?

    thanks
    marcella

    You might want to try this one, Marcella. It's pretty close to the "real
    thing" from Cornwall.

    Dora

    CORNISH PASTIES

    FILLING:
    1/2 cup turnips -- potatoes, carrots
    (cubed)
    1 medium onion (diced)
    2 Tbsp. minced parsley -- fresh or dried
    1 lb. pasty meat or boneless beef -- cubed
    1/2 teaspoon salt
    1/4 teaspoon pepper
    1 Tbsp. butter
    CRUST:
    1 1/3 cup flour -- sifted together
    with 1/2 teaspoon salt
    1/2 cup vegetable shortening

    To make crust, into the flour, cut in 1/2 cup of solid vegetable
    shortening until it is the size of small peas. Add approximately 1/3
    cup cold water. Mix with a pastry blender until dough is well blended.
    Divide into two equal parts. Roll into 9 inch circles.

    Mix filling ingredients together. Equally divide mixture onto one half
    of rolled crust. Top with butter. Lift and fold top half of crust over
    filling. Seal, folding and crimping into rope edge along top of past.
    Slit each pasty about 1/2 inch in several places. Place on cookie
    sheet several inches apart and bake at 375 degrees for 1 hour.

    Accompaniments to the pasty vary, with some preferring pasties topped
    with a medium beef gravy. Others prefer catsup, pickle relish or
    chutney, or eaten plain while the crust is still warm and flaky.

  3. I use leftover, cooked roast beef in my pasties. I haven't made them in
    a while; need to make some again before long. Carol

    Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we
    are here, we may as well dance!

  4. "Carol Garbo" wrote in message >I use leftover, cooked roast beef in my
    pasties. I haven't made them in

    Quoted message said:

    a while; need to make some again before long. Carol

    Yes - and a little gravy to moisten doesn't hurt, either.

    Dora

  5. Thanks! I've printed it off to try once the weather gets below 80.

    marcella

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    limey said:

    You might want to try this one, Marcella. It's pretty close to the


    "real

    Quoted message said:

    thing" from Cornwall.

    Dora

    CORNISH PASTIES

    FILLING:
    1/2 cup turnips -- potatoes, carrots
    (cubed)
    1 medium onion (diced)
    2 Tbsp. minced parsley -- fresh or dried
    1 lb. pasty meat or boneless beef -- cubed
    1/2 teaspoon salt
    1/4 teaspoon pepper
    1 Tbsp. butter
    CRUST:
    1 1/3 cup flour -- sifted together
    with 1/2 teaspoon salt
    1/2 cup vegetable shortening

    To make crust, into the flour, cut in 1/2 cup of solid vegetable
    shortening until it is the size of small peas. Add approximately 1/3
    cup cold water. Mix with a pastry blender until dough is well blended.
    Divide into two equal parts. Roll into 9 inch circles.

    Mix filling ingredients together. Equally divide mixture onto one half
    of rolled crust. Top with butter. Lift and fold top half of crust over
    filling. Seal, folding and crimping into rope edge along top of past.
    Slit each pasty about 1/2 inch in several places. Place on cookie
    sheet several inches apart and bake at 375 degrees for 1 hour.

    Accompaniments to the pasty vary, with some preferring pasties topped
    with a medium beef gravy. Others prefer catsup, pickle relish or
    chutney, or eaten plain while the crust is still warm and flaky.

  6. Marcella said:

    My husband and I spent the weekend in Nevada City and enjoyed some
    cornish pasties at a little shop. As we walked through the town and the
    nearby town of Grass Valley we looked in all the bookshops and kitchen
    shops for local cookbooks that would have a recipe. Not much luck.
    Recipes found said things like "make a less rich pastry dough, roll it
    out and top with fillings. Make sure potatoes drip into meat. Bake."

    Great if you have an idea what to do. Not so great for us. When we
    asked at one kitchen store the owner said you didn't need a recipe
    because you just made a less rich pastry dough etc. :-)

    Does anyone have a more detailed recipe they would be willing to share?

    www.greenchronicle.com/connies_cornish_kitchen/cornish_pasty.htm seems like
    it ought to be detailed enough.

    Hey, where do you live, that you went to Nevada City and Grass Valley?
    That's in my neck of the woods. (I work at Beale AFB.)

    Bob

  7. "Marcella Peek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My husband and I spent the weekend in Nevada City and enjoyed some
    cornish pasties at a little shop. As we walked through the town and the
    nearby town of Grass Valley we looked in all the bookshops and kitchen
    shops for local cookbooks that would have a recipe. Not much luck.
    Recipes found said things like "make a less rich pastry dough, roll it
    out and top with fillings. Make sure potatoes drip into meat. Bake."

    Great if you have an idea what to do. Not so great for us. When we
    asked at one kitchen store the owner said you didn't need a recipe
    because you just made a less rich pastry dough etc. :-)

    Does anyone have a more detailed recipe they would be willing to share?

    thanks
    marcella

    This is the recipe I use, the pork and celery are Grandma's secret
    ingredients (they keep the Pasty moist)

    Grandma Naasko's
    Pasties (U.P. Style)

    Crust:
    4 cups flour
    1 cup solid shortening
    2 teaspoons salt
    1/2 - 3/4 cup cold water
    Prepare above as for pie crust. Form into 4 balls.

    Filling:
    1 pound round steak, diced
    3/4 pound pork steak, diced
    diced potatoes, enough for four servings
    1 rutabaga, diced
    2 small onions, diced
    1 celery rib, diced fine

    Combine above ingredients and separate into four piles. Roll crust somewhat
    bigger than for pie crust. Cut crust the diameter of a pie pan. On one half
    side of crust, place filling ingredients. Sprinkle with salt and pepper and
    place 1 rounded teaspoon of butter on top. Fold crust over filling, wet
    edges, roll /crimp to seal.
    [censored] tops with knife. Place on greased jelly roll pan. Bake at 350 for a
    good hour.

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  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob Terwilliger' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:

    www.greenchronicle.com/connies_cornish_kitchen/cornish_pasty.htm seems like
    it ought to be detailed enough.

    Hey, where do you live, that you went to Nevada City and Grass Valley?
    That's in my neck of the woods. (I work at Beale AFB.)

    Bob

    Thanks for the link!

    We live just south of San Francisco. A co-worker of my husband was
    getting married there. The brides family lives in Nevada City, so that's
    why the wedding was there.

    Thanks also to Mikol, I saved off that recipe as well. It's going to be
    fun taste testing them all.

    marcella

  9. Marcella Peek said:

    My husband and I spent the weekend in Nevada City and enjoyed some
    cornish pasties at a little shop. As we walked through the town and the
    nearby town of Grass Valley we looked in all the bookshops and kitchen
    shops for local cookbooks that would have a recipe. Not much luck.
    Recipes found said things like "make a less rich pastry dough, roll it
    out and top with fillings. Make sure potatoes drip into meat. Bake."

    Great if you have an idea what to do. Not so great for us. When we
    asked at one kitchen store the owner said you didn't need a recipe
    because you just made a less rich pastry dough etc. :-)

    Does anyone have a more detailed recipe they would be willing to share?

    I like Cornish pasties very much and here is a recipe I consider good,
    based on my experiences in England. It is from the Time-Life "Food of
    the World" series, "The Cooking of the British Isles". Personally, I
    prefer to mince/grind the filling ingredients using a coarse disk.

    Victor

    Cornish Pasty
    To make 16 six-inch pasties

    1 tablespoon butter, softened

    Preheat oven to 400°F. Using a pasty brush, coat a large baking sheet
    with the 1 tablespoon of softened butter. Set aside.

    Pastry
    4 cups all-purpose flour
    1/8 teaspoon salt
    1 1/2 cups lard (3/4 pound), chilled and cut into 1/4-inch bits
    8 to 10 tablespoons ice water

    In a large chilled bowl, combine the flour, salt and lard. Working
    quickly, rub the flour and fat together with your fingertips until they
    look like coarse meal. Pour in 8 tablespoons of iced water all at once,
    toss together, and gather the dough into a ball. If the dough crumbles,
    add up to 2 tablespoons of water, 1 teaspoon at a time, until the
    particles adhere. Dust the pastry with a little flour and wrap in wax
    paper. Refrigerate for at least an hour.

    On a lightly floured surface, roll out the dough into a circle about 1/4
    inch thick. With a pastry wheel or sharp knife, cut the dough into
    6-inch rounds using a small plate or pot lid as a guide. Gather the
    scraps together into a ball, roll it out again, and cut into 6-inch
    rounds as before.

    FILLING
    1 cup coarsely chopped white or yellow turnips
    2 cups finely diced lean boneless beef, preferably top round
    1 cup coarsely chopped onions
    2 cups finely diced potatoes
    1 1/2 teaspoons salt
    1 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
    1 egg, lightly beaten

    With a large spoon, toss the turnips, beef, onions, potatoes, salt and
    pepper together. Place about 1/4 cup of the mixture in the centre of
    each pastry round. Moisten the edges of the rounds with a pastry brush
    dipped in cold water, then fold the rounds in half to enclose the
    filling completely. Press the seams together firmly and crimp them with
    your fingers or the tines of a fork. Place the pasties on the baking
    sheet, and cut two slits about 1 inch long in the top of each. Brush
    lightly with the beaten egg and bake in the middle of the oven for 15
    minutes. Reduce the heat to 350°F and bake for 30 minutes, or until the
    pasties are golden brown. Serve hot or at room temperature.

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Victor Sack) said:

    I like Cornish pasties very much and here is a recipe I consider good,
    based on my experiences in England. It is from the Time-Life "Food of
    the World" series, "The Cooking of the British Isles". Personally, I
    prefer to mince/grind the filling ingredients using a coarse disk.

    Victor

    Cornish Pasty
    To make 16 six-inch pasties

    1 tablespoon butter, softened

    Preheat oven to 400°F. Using a pasty brush, coat a large baking sheet
    with the 1 tablespoon of softened butter. Set aside.

    Pastry
    4 cups all-purpose flour
    1/8 teaspoon salt
    1 1/2 cups lard (3/4 pound), chilled and cut into 1/4-inch bits
    8 to 10 tablespoons ice water

    In a large chilled bowl, combine the flour, salt and lard. Working
    quickly, rub the flour and fat together with your fingertips until they
    look like coarse meal. Pour in 8 tablespoons of iced water all at once,
    toss together, and gather the dough into a ball. If the dough crumbles,
    add up to 2 tablespoons of water, 1 teaspoon at a time, until the
    particles adhere. Dust the pastry with a little flour and wrap in wax
    paper. Refrigerate for at least an hour.

    On a lightly floured surface, roll out the dough into a circle about 1/4
    inch thick. With a pastry wheel or sharp knife, cut the dough into
    6-inch rounds using a small plate or pot lid as a guide. Gather the
    scraps together into a ball, roll it out again, and cut into 6-inch
    rounds as before.

    FILLING
    1 cup coarsely chopped white or yellow turnips
    2 cups finely diced lean boneless beef, preferably top round
    1 cup coarsely chopped onions
    2 cups finely diced potatoes
    1 1/2 teaspoons salt
    1 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
    1 egg, lightly beaten

    With a large spoon, toss the turnips, beef, onions, potatoes, salt and
    pepper together. Place about 1/4 cup of the mixture in the centre of
    each pastry round. Moisten the edges of the rounds with a pastry brush
    dipped in cold water, then fold the rounds in half to enclose the
    filling completely. Press the seams together firmly and crimp them with
    your fingers or the tines of a fork. Place the pasties on the baking
    sheet, and cut two slits about 1 inch long in the top of each. Brush
    lightly with the beaten egg and bake in the middle of the oven for 15
    minutes. Reduce the heat to 350°F and bake for 30 minutes, or until the
    pasties are golden brown. Serve hot or at room temperature.

    Thanks, I have saved it off to try.

    Do you use lard in the crust or is shortening ok? The only lard around
    here comes sealed in a box and is shelf stable and not always terribly
    fresh. I don't think it's a particularly fast mover at the grocery
    store.

    marcella

  11. On Tue 11 Oct 2005 06:09:36p, Marcella Peek wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    Do you use lard in the crust or is shortening ok? The only lard around
    here comes sealed in a box and is shelf stable and not always terribly
    fresh. I don't think it's a particularly fast mover at the grocery
    store.

    marcella

    Marcella, you might try a butcher shop for fresh lard. If they don't stock
    it they might be able to order it for you. Most of the pre-packed lard in
    the grocery stores is not all that good even when fresh.

    What I actually prefer is using shredded or ground suet. I order 2-3 pounds
    at a time and store in the freezer. This makes an excellent pastry for
    pasties. I also use it when I make mince pie filling (I don't use meat).

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    _____________________________

    http://tinypic.com/dzijap.jpg

    Popie-In-The-Bowl

  12. Quoted message said:

    My husband and I spent the weekend in Nevada City and enjoyed some
    cornish pasties at a little shop. As we walked through the town and the
    nearby town of Grass Valley we looked in all the bookshops and kitchen
    shops for local cookbooks that would have a recipe. Not much luck.
    Recipes found said things like "make a less rich pastry dough, roll it
    out and top with fillings. Make sure potatoes drip into meat. Bake."

    Great if you have an idea what to do. Not so great for us. When we
    asked at one kitchen store the owner said you didn't need a recipe
    because you just made a less rich pastry dough etc. :-)

    Does anyone have a more detailed recipe they would be willing to share?

    My dad grew up in the UP of Michigan and since he also comes from a
    mining background, pasties are in our blood. I've been eating pasties
    ever since I had enough teeth to chew them. Therefore I am compelled
    probably by the spirit of my grandma to add my two cents worth here.

    The recipes already posted are fine but you should resist the temptation
    to get fancy with pasties - they require no seasoning other than salt and
    pepper, and gravy or ketchup or something like that (someone mentioned
    chutney) are all you need to serve with them. My terrible food secret
    is that I love ketchup on my pasties. Ketchup right out of the fridge
    does a great job of cooling down a piping hot pasty so it won't burn
    your mouth off.

    You might run into purists who insist rutabagas or turnips are essential
    to the pasty paradigm. I would argue that the minimal pasty which can
    be identified as a pasty contains only meat and potatoes. Everthing
    else is extra. I've never put rutabagas or turnips in my pasties.
    Just potatoes, onions, carrots, and some lean beef. Of course you can
    put whatever you like in your pasties. Personally though I have what
    you might call an irrational intolerance for elegant pasty variations.
    The pasty is a humble food. You should never find a pasty on the menu
    of a fancy restaurant.

    The crust is important. That's the hard part - unless you cheat and
    use never fail pie crust. Never fail pie crust holds together better
    and that makes it easier to handle, so it might actually be a good one
    to start with. Here's a recipe:

    http://www.recipesource.com/baked-goods/desserts/pies/11/rec1101.html

  13. Well, you learn something new every day. I thought 'pasties' was a
    typo, which created a vision of some bizarre Lands End strip club... 8-D

  14. tert in seattle said:

    My dad grew up in the UP of Michigan and since he also comes from a
    mining background, pasties are in our blood. I've been eating pasties
    ever since I had enough teeth to chew them. Therefore I am compelled
    probably by the spirit of my grandma to add my two cents worth here.

    The recipes already posted are fine but you should resist the temptation
    to get fancy with pasties - they require no seasoning other than salt and
    pepper, and gravy or ketchup or something like that (someone mentioned
    chutney) are all you need to serve with them. My terrible food secret
    is that I love ketchup on my pasties. Ketchup right out of the fridge
    does a great job of cooling down a piping hot pasty so it won't burn
    your mouth off.

    You might run into purists who insist rutabagas or turnips are essential
    to the pasty paradigm. I would argue that the minimal pasty which can
    be identified as a pasty contains only meat and potatoes. Everthing
    else is extra. I've never put rutabagas or turnips in my pasties.
    Just potatoes, onions, carrots, and some lean beef. Of course you can
    put whatever you like in your pasties. Personally though I have what
    you might call an irrational intolerance for elegant pasty variations.
    The pasty is a humble food. You should never find a pasty on the menu
    of a fancy restaurant.

    Surely the purists should be insisting on the traditional sweet portion
    of the pastie. i.e. the desert.

    --
    Paul

  15. Marcella Peek said:

    My husband and I spent the weekend in Nevada City and enjoyed some
    cornish pasties at a little shop. As we walked through the town and the
    nearby town of Grass Valley we looked in all the bookshops and kitchen
    shops for local cookbooks that would have a recipe. Not much luck.
    Recipes found said things like "make a less rich pastry dough, roll it
    out and top with fillings. Make sure potatoes drip into meat. Bake."

    Great if you have an idea what to do. Not so great for us. When we
    asked at one kitchen store the owner said you didn't need a recipe
    because you just made a less rich pastry dough etc. :-)

    Does anyone have a more detailed recipe they would be willing to share?

    thanks
    marcella

    The best Pasties I ever tasted were from the Chough Bakery in Padstow,
    Cornwall. Their Pasties are simply to die for and have won many, many
    awards. I can't find a recipe that even comes close to these morsels.
    They used to do mail order and I once ordered a dozen to be delivered
    to my office in London. They went down very, very well amongst my
    staff.
    Must pay a visit again one day.

    Yours droolingly

    Doc

  16. On Wed 12 Oct 2005 04:25:09a, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    Marcella Peek said:

    My husband and I spent the weekend in Nevada City and enjoyed some
    cornish pasties at a little shop. As we walked through the town and the
    nearby town of Grass Valley we looked in all the bookshops and kitchen
    shops for local cookbooks that would have a recipe. Not much luck.
    Recipes found said things like "make a less rich pastry dough, roll it
    out and top with fillings. Make sure potatoes drip into meat. Bake."

    Great if you have an idea what to do. Not so great for us. When we
    asked at one kitchen store the owner said you didn't need a recipe
    because you just made a less rich pastry dough etc. :-)

    Does anyone have a more detailed recipe they would be willing to share?

    thanks
    marcella

    The best Pasties I ever tasted were from the Chough Bakery in Padstow,
    Cornwall. Their Pasties are simply to die for and have won many, many
    awards. I can't find a recipe that even comes close to these morsels.
    They used to do mail order and I once ordered a dozen to be delivered
    to my office in London. They went down very, very well amongst my
    staff.
    Must pay a visit again one day.

    Yours droolingly

    Doc

    And I'd be willing to bet that they included turnip (white or swede) and
    onion. I've never seen a good pasty yet that didn't.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    _____________________________

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  17. Wayne Boatwright said:

    On Wed 12 Oct 2005 04:25:09a, Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    Marcella Peek said:

    My husband and I spent the weekend in Nevada City and enjoyed some
    cornish pasties at a little shop. As we walked through the town and the
    nearby town of Grass Valley we looked in all the bookshops and kitchen
    shops for local cookbooks that would have a recipe. Not much luck.
    Recipes found said things like "make a less rich pastry dough, roll it
    out and top with fillings. Make sure potatoes drip into meat. Bake."

    Great if you have an idea what to do. Not so great for us. When we
    asked at one kitchen store the owner said you didn't need a recipe
    because you just made a less rich pastry dough etc. :-)

    Does anyone have a more detailed recipe they would be willing to share?

    thanks
    marcella

    The best Pasties I ever tasted were from the Chough Bakery in Padstow,
    Cornwall. Their Pasties are simply to die for and have won many, many
    awards. I can't find a recipe that even comes close to these morsels.
    They used to do mail order and I once ordered a dozen to be delivered
    to my office in London. They went down very, very well amongst my
    staff.
    Must pay a visit again one day.

    Yours droolingly

    Doc

    And I'd be willing to bet that they included turnip (white or swede) and
    onion. I've never seen a good pasty yet that didn't.

    Abso-bloomin-lutely.
    And I have to confess, even though it's not 'traditional' their Steak &
    Stilton was sublime.

    Doc

  18. Following up to Wayne Boatwright

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The best Pasties I ever tasted were from the Chough Bakery in Padstow,
    Cornwall. Their Pasties are simply to die for and have won many, many
    awards. I can't find a recipe that even comes close to these morsels.
    They used to do mail order and I once ordered a dozen to be delivered
    to my office in London. They went down very, very well amongst my
    staff.

    that's a tempting idea. There's also a place IIRC called "flying
    pasties" in Padstow? Then theres Annes pasties on Lizard.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
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  19. The Reid said:

    Following up to Wayne Boatwright

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The best Pasties I ever tasted were from the Chough Bakery in Padstow,
    Cornwall. Their Pasties are simply to die for and have won many, many
    awards. I can't find a recipe that even comes close to these morsels.
    They used to do mail order and I once ordered a dozen to be delivered
    to my office in London. They went down very, very well amongst my
    staff.

    that's a tempting idea. There's also a place IIRC called "flying
    pasties" in Padstow? Then theres Annes pasties on Lizard.
    --
    Mike Reid

    There could well be Mike, but after I discovered the Chough Bakery
    Pasties, NOTHING came close. Chough very time (OO-ER sounds a bit rude)

    Doc

  20. Following up to Dr Hfuhruhurr

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that's a tempting idea. There's also a place IIRC called "flying
    pasties" in Padstow? Then theres Annes pasties on Lizard.
    --
    Mike Reid

    There could well be Mike, but after I discovered the Chough Bakery
    Pasties, NOTHING came close. Chough very time (OO-ER sounds a bit rude)

    I will have to try them! The Chough is the "national" bird of
    Cornwall BTW. A red billed member of the crow family, only
    recently recolonising Cornwalls cliffs.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
    Photos of both "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

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