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  1. Hi Guys:

    I just installed the Specialite TA 38T chainring onto my Shimano Ultegra triple crankset. I have no
    problem upshifting from the smaller chainrings to the larger chainrings. However, I can't get the
    chain to downshift from the 38t to the 30t chainring. Can anyone help me with this problem. Here are
    my drive train components.

    Shimano Ultegra 6501 Shifters Shimano Ultegra Triple Bottom Bracket Shimano Ultegra Triple Crankset
    52-38-30 (was 52-42-30). Shimano Dura Ace Triple Front Derailleur Shimano 105 Triple Rear Derailleur

    Thanks, Claude

  2. I once had that problem with a middle chainring. When I looked at I discovered that the two sides
    were not the same. I reversed it and it worked just find.

    I don't know if that is the case here, but it may be worth a try.

    [email hidden] (Chluu907) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Guys:

    I just installed the Specialite TA 38T chainring onto my Shimano Ultegra triple crankset. I have
    no problem upshifting from the smaller chainrings to the larger chainrings. However, I can't get
    the chain to downshift from the 38t to the 30t chainring. Can anyone help me with this problem.
    Here are my drive train components.

    Shimano Ultegra 6501 Shifters Shimano Ultegra Triple Bottom Bracket Shimano Ultegra Triple
    Crankset 52-38-30 (was 52-42-30). Shimano Dura Ace Triple Front Derailleur Shimano 105 Triple Rear
    Derailleur

    Thanks, Claude

  3. "Chluu907" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Guys:

    I just installed the Specialite TA 38T chainring onto my Shimano Ultegra


    triple

    Quoted message said:

    crankset. I have no problem upshifting from the smaller chainrings to the larger chainrings.
    However, I can't get the chain to downshift from the


    38t to

    Quoted message said:

    the 30t chainring. Can anyone help me with this problem. Here are my


    drive

    Quoted message said:

    train components.

    Shimano Ultegra 6501 Shifters Shimano Ultegra Triple Bottom Bracket Shimano Ultegra Triple
    Crankset 52-38-30 (was 52-42-30). Shimano Dura Ace Triple Front Derailleur Shimano 105 Triple Rear
    Derailleur

    I bet you have an unramped and un-pined chainring for the 38. Look at the chainring. Are the teeth
    all the same size? (compare to the big ring to see what I mean). Are there any pins or ramps on the
    surface? Again, look at the 52 to see this. Either your 38 was meant for a double, and thus does not
    have the ramps. Or as the other poster suggested, you have it backwards, so the ramps are facing the
    larger ring (rendering them useless).

    I bet it's a 'flat' chainring. If so, you're going to have to get a different one, or suffer poor
    shifting from the granny. If you can't take it back, I may be interested in it. :-) I have a
    cross bike with a single chainring on the front so that would be perfect for really hilly
    courses. John Rees

  4. Hi John:

    The chainring is pinnned and ramped. Not to the extent ast the Shimano chainring but it does have
    them. Amazingly, the upshifting from small 30t chainring to the middle 38t chainring is absolutely
    flawless. However, I can't downshift the chain from the middle chainring to the small chainring.
    I've tried angling the derailleur cage and lowering the derailleur as much as possible without
    having the cage rub agains the chainring. Can the chainring be too small in its outer diameter so
    that the chain cant be lifted high enough by the derailleur to go from the middle to the small
    chainring?

    If it is a matter of size, you're definitely welcome to the chainring. The only ride it's had is on
    my workstand. Can't believe how much prettier the Specialite TA chainrings are compared to the
    Shimano counterparts.

    Thanks, Claude

    P.S. I'm using a Shimano HG93 chain, if that makes a difference.

    Quoted message said:

    I bet you have an unramped and un-pined chainring for the 38. Look at the chainring. Are the teeth
    all the same size? (compare to the big ring to see what I mean). Are there any pins or ramps on the
    surface? Again, look at the 52 to see this. Either your 38 was meant for a double, and thus does
    not have the ramps. Or as the other poster suggested, you have it backwards, so the ramps are
    facing the larger ring (rendering them useless).

    I bet it's a 'flat' chainring. If so, you're going to have to get a different one, or suffer poor
    shifting from the granny. If you can't take it back, I may be interested in it. :-) I have a
    cross bike with a single chainring on the front so that would be perfect for really hilly
    courses. John Rees

  5. (Chluu907) said:

    However, I can't downshift the chain from the middle chainring to the small chainring. I've tried
    angling the derailleur cage and lowering the derailleur as much as possible without having the cage
    rub agains the chainring.

    Too much tension in the derailleur cable or binding of the cable somewhere in the run. YOu can test
    the binding by putting the bike in stand and downshifting. If the chain doesn't drop, push on the
    derailleur cage.

  6. chuluu-<< I just installed the Specialite TA 38T chainring onto my Shimano Ultegra triple crankset.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <BR><BR> << Shimano Ultegra 6501 Shifters Shimano Ultegra Triple Bottom Bracket Shimano Ultegra


    Triple Crankset 52-38-30 (was 52-42-30). Shimano Dura Ace Triple Front Derailleur Shimano 105 Triple
    Rear Derailleur >><BR><BR>

    Try a ultegra triple front der...we had the same problem...the DA front der doesn't seem to have as
    much inward travel as the ultegra..

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  7. Two possibilities.

    1. The low gear limit screw is screwed down too far (the limit screws are the two screws next to one
    another, usually on top of the derailer). The low is usually marked "L". When you shift the lever
    all the way into low, is there slack in the cable? If so this is definitely the problem. loosen
    this screw.

    2. The cable is too tight. There should be an adjustment barrel. Look for a knurled cylinder
    somewhere near a cable housing stop. Loosen it to give more slack in the cable and allow the
    derailer to move further in.

    Obviously, some tinkering will be necessary to get it right.

    May you have the wind at your back. And a really low gear for the hills! Chris

    Chris'Z Corner "The Website for the Common Bicyclist": geocities.comczcorner

  8. Hi Guys:

    I did go back to my Ultegra derailleur and I have been able to shift the chain from the 38T to the
    30T chainring. It does take a bit of time for it to downshift and definitely is not as smooth and
    crisp as the original 42T Shimano chainring.

    Could the chainring be at fault? I do notice that the Shimano chainring's teeth have different sizes
    and dimensions when compared to the uniform shape of the Specialite chainring teeth.

    Thanks, Claude

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