sore shins

Gee, you were running and you injured yourself. You quit running and it
went away. You began running again and you injured yourself again.
Whatever could it be?

Hi,
Im battling the exact same problem you describe in your message.
Ive stepped up the tempo and intensity of my running and since doing this
I've sustained sore shins generally on the outside of the leg although there
has been pain on the inside to some degree also.
I had this checked out by a podiatrist and my issue supposedly is that my
foot rolls inwards causing that muscle in my shins to be overused. I had to
get a shoe support to raise my foot into a neutral position to make use of
the main muscles.

Im not sure what would be causing your shin soreness, but it may pay to look
at the type of shoe you wear and maybe you need better support, particulary
if your feet are flat or slightly flat.
Shin soreness is common among beginner runners so im informed. It'll pay to
do calf muscle warm ups and cool downs before/after running and when you get
back from a run to ice the sore shin/s.

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Quoted message said:

I took ten days off running due to a anterior tendon and muscle issue
on my left leg. That pain (injury) is gone. But now after 3 days back
the muscles on the osutside of both shins are sore but not a injured
type of pain.

I really haven't been doing anything different, new shoes, change in
stride, etc.
I'm trying to track down the cause, the only thing I can think of is a
lot more biking this Summer due to heat and then injury. Anybody else
experience anything like this?

Two side notes:

Congrats to Tony S. and Doug F. for their Vermont 50 performances.

Just got the Running Times, great article/interview with Nikki
Kimball.
I remember her running and winning the Prospect Mt. race in Lake George
(which is getting a lot of unfortunate publicity due to the boating
accident on Sunday).
I remember my wife and I talking after "Who is this woman and how can
she run uphill that damn fast?"

On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 18:48:12 +0930, "Merlin" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Im not sure what would be causing your shin soreness, but it may pay to look
at the type of shoe you wear and maybe you need better support, particulary
if your feet are flat or slightly flat.

Shoes are almost always the cause of this type of pain. Either the
wrong type for you (this may not show up with minimal mileage, but
rears its ugly head as you increase it) or the shoes are worn, whether
you can see the wear or not.

Quoted message said:

I took ten days off running due to a anterior tendon and muscle issue
on my left leg. That pain (injury) is gone. But now after 3 days back
the muscles on the osutside of both shins are sore but not a injured
type of pain.

I really haven't been doing anything different, new shoes, change in
stride, etc.
I'm trying to track down the cause, the only thing I can think of is a
lot more biking this Summer due to heat and then injury. Anybody else
experience anything like this?

I see that you don't think your stride has changed, but be sure of
that. You don't want to be getting your feet too far out in front of
yourself and "leveraging" yourself forward. Being deliberately
conscious of keeping to a short, fast stride (like gearing down on your
bike) might be something to try for a few runs. If that's no help,
then it may be something else.

"Sore Shins ~

I see that you don't think your stride
Has changed, trot not your gait, too wide,

Be sure of that,
No matter the color of your Top Hat

You don't want to be getting your paws
Too far out in front of yourself, Elf,

And 'leveraging' yourself too far forward,
Or you will surely fall over,
Head over heels ...

Dance your dance, spin your pirouette
Deliberately conscious of your spotter in the corner,
While keeping your tempo
A short, fast stride

(As though, say, gearing down
On your
Unicycle)

That might be something to try ~ Spring
Forward, give it a Go
For a few spins,
Or try a few practice rehearsals in the dance studio.

If that's no help,
Then it may be something else,
Which we will dutifully figure out, Elf,

Not to worry.
No hurrry."
~ The Black Hat Guy

"Balancing on your shins,
All wobbly, again, O, where gone Mr.
Balanchine ~ ?

George, effortlessly,
Can solve any choreography.

Hard Hat, or Hound,
Keistein, too, if not sniffing around town."
~ Don Von

"Call Francesca ~ Promptly, immediately,
Draft Maximillion into a dancing role, post haste,

We must smartly maximize,
Surely, you do realize ~

Our canine dancing talent fancifully,
If on very rare occasion,
Rather too whimsically

But never, not ever, no never,
Too romantically
Or manically."
~ The Axelated Isomer

"Merlin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi,
Im battling the exact same problem you describe in your message.
Ive stepped up the tempo and intensity of my running and since doing this
I've sustained sore shins generally on the outside of the leg although
there has been pain on the inside to some degree also.

That's most likely the case. When the hot waether broke near the end of
August I started to push the speed and up mileage
in hopes of a Fall Marathon. I volunteered at a race this past Sunday, got
there early and ran the (hilly) course, I felt good and probably ran it too
fast.

Quoted message said:

I had this checked out by a podiatrist and my issue supposedly is that my
foot rolls inwards causing that muscle in my shins to be overused. I had
to get a shoe support to raise my foot into a neutral position to make use
of the main muscles.

Im not sure what would be causing your shin soreness, but it may pay to
look at the type of shoe you wear and maybe you need better support,
particulary if your feet are flat or slightly flat.

I have orthotics and am wearing stable shoes so I don't think that's the
issue.

Quoted message said:

Shin soreness is common among beginner runners so im informed. It'll pay
to do calf muscle warm ups and cool downs before/after running and when
you get back from a run to ice the sore shin/s.

Quoted message said:

<[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I took ten days off running due to a anterior tendon and muscle issue
on my left leg. That pain (injury) is gone. But now after 3 days back
the muscles on the osutside of both shins are sore but not a injured
type of pain.

I really haven't been doing anything different, new shoes, change in
stride, etc.
I'm trying to track down the cause, the only thing I can think of is a
lot more biking this Summer due to heat and then injury. Anybody else
experience anything like this?

Two side notes:

Congrats to Tony S. and Doug F. for their Vermont 50 performances.

Just got the Running Times, great article/interview with Nikki
Kimball.
I remember her running and winning the Prospect Mt. race in Lake George
(which is getting a lot of unfortunate publicity due to the boating
accident on Sunday).
I remember my wife and I talking after "Who is this woman and how can
she run uphill that damn fast?"

"The Bad Guy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I took ten days off running due to a anterior tendon and muscle issue
on my left leg. That pain (injury) is gone. But now after 3 days back
the muscles on the osutside of both shins are sore but not a injured
type of pain.

I really haven't been doing anything different, new shoes, change in
stride, etc.
I'm trying to track down the cause, the only thing I can think of is a
lot more biking this Summer due to heat and then injury. Anybody else
experience anything like this?

I see that you don't think your stride has changed, but be sure of
that. You don't want to be getting your feet too far out in front of
yourself and "leveraging" yourself forward. Being deliberately
conscious of keeping to a short, fast stride (like gearing down on your
bike) might be something to try for a few runs. If that's no help,
then it may be something else.

I don't think that's the problem, I'm very careful about overstriding as I
remember dealing with very sore hamstring attachments when I was guilty of
that.
That's a real pain in the ass!
The other times I ran this week I felt OK, took it real easy and kept it
short.
I think some of the issue may be that I started doing the exercises here
http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/archive/027_03_tibialis_posterior_tendinitis.html
during my 10 day hiatus as I have an ongoing problem with my left foot and
ankle.

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On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 18:48:12 +0930, "Merlin" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Im not sure what would be causing your shin soreness, but it may pay to
look
at the type of shoe you wear and maybe you need better support,
particulary
if your feet are flat or slightly flat.

Shoes are almost always the cause of this type of pain. Either the
wrong type for you (this may not show up with minimal mileage, but
rears its ugly head as you increase it) or the shoes are worn, whether
you can see the wear or not.

Yup, time to ditch the Asics 2100s, just got a pair of Brooks Adrenailne
GT6.
So far so good!

On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 21:56:52 GMT, "Parker Race" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Yup, time to ditch the Asics 2100s, just got a pair of Brooks Adrenailne
GT6.

OH GOD, SOMEONE FING SHOOT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheBillRogers said:

Parker Race said:

Yup, time to ditch the Asics 2100s, just got a pair of Brooks
Adrenailne GT6.

OH GOD, SOMEONE FING SHOOT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-------->>>> BANG !!!

Wm, I bet you'll enjoy this quote from the back cover of the Road
Runner Sports catalog which came in the mail today. The following is
attributed to "Kevin - roadrunnersports.com>>Shoe Talk":

I work at a specialty running store (run 50-70 mile/week)
and I *swear by* the Brooks Adrenaline. If you overpronate
a moderate - almost sever amount and enjoy a *firm durable
cushion*, the Brooks Adrenaline is an *amazing shoe*.

-------->>>> BANG !!!
-------->>>> BANG !!!

prod

kick

-------->>>> BANG !!!

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The Chinese Crested Dog

(Hairless,
With a whiff of headhair)

Stars as
The Impish Jester
In a forthcoming ballet ~
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~ Fifth Avenue Gold Coast:
A Pee Promenade ~
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* A New Ballet, a Pet Parade,
Performance
By Ballets Russes *
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Shakespeare's Globe Theatre
West Edge Off Center
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Blog, I'll warrant ye, or dog? Who knows. Pass the grog!
But if ye see me lost pup, please bring that scurvy dog home!
I got Leon a brand-new bone, with a chest full a' booty.
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On 7 Oct 2005 22:56:11 -0700, "Charlie Pendejo" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

TheBillRogers said:

Parker Race said:

Yup, time to ditch the Asics 2100s, just got a pair of Brooks
Adrenailne GT6.

OH GOD, SOMEONE FING SHOOT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-------->>>> BANG !!!

Wm, I bet you'll enjoy this quote from the back cover of the Road
Runner Sports catalog which came in the mail today. The following is
attributed to "Kevin - roadrunnersports.com>>Shoe Talk":

I work at a specialty running store (run 50-70 mile/week)
and I *swear by* the Brooks Adrenaline. If you overpronate
a moderate - almost sever amount and enjoy a *firm durable
cushion*, the Brooks Adrenaline is an *amazing shoe*.

So some teenager making minimum wage recommends Brooks? So what? It
doesn't dispute my contention they are squishy, short-life shoes. The
second of which nobody has disputed.
Of the 2 dozen running shops I've been too, and asked at, the ones
with an opinion (about 2/3'rds) said the feedback they received FROM
CUSTOMERS (far more important than a pimple-faced boys opinion) was
that the Asics 2000 series was the best stability shoe out there. The
rest came in a distant second.