second day in a row

"Andy Gee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Yesterday: Bright red Jaguar leaves the Chelsea Piers automobile access
road and makes a right turn heading _directly into_ the bicycle greenway.
He almost got dragged out of his car and lynched. Aren't Jaguars supposed
to be ale-bottle green, anyway? What's happened to tradition?

Today: White Civic makes a right turn from 10th avenue onto 55th St, the
wrong way on a one way street. I was counting my spokes or something
waiting for the light, then I see her, but I manage to wave her off before
she hit the horse carraige.

I never see more than one of those a year, what's up with twice in a row?
Law of large numbers or something?

And speaking of two in a row, what's up with the fuel tanker trucks
suddenly exploding?

--ag

I .... love New York ............. I .... love .... New York ...

Andy Gee blurted out without thinking:

Quoted message said:

Bright red Jaguar leaves the Chelsea Piers automobile access
road and makes a right turn heading _directly into_ the bicycle greenway.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

White Civic makes a right turn from 10th avenue onto 55th St, the
wrong way on a one way street.

<snip>

You must be from New York City. There are some Americans that might
assume the whole world knows where their insignificant little dot on
the map is, but only a New Yorker assumes the whole world knows where
their street intersections are.

Austin (from an insiginificant dot in Minnesota)

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Andy Gee blurted out without thinking:

Quoted message said:

Bright red Jaguar leaves the Chelsea Piers automobile access
road and makes a right turn heading _directly into_ the bicycle greenway.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

White Civic makes a right turn from 10th avenue onto 55th St, the
wrong way on a one way street.

<snip>

You must be from New York City. There are some Americans that might
assume the whole world knows where their insignificant little dot on
the map is, but only a New Yorker assumes the whole world knows where
their street intersections are.

I refer to local streets all the time, mainly for the benefit of Mr. Buson.
The rest of you have not a clue where the intersection of Richard's Road and
Eastgate Way is, but that doesn't matter, does it?

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
See the books I've set free at:
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Andy Gee said:

Yesterday: Bright red Jaguar leaves the Chelsea Piers automobile access
road and makes a right turn heading _directly into_ the bicycle greenway.
He almost got dragged out of his car and lynched. Aren't Jaguars supposed
to be ale-bottle green, anyway? What's happened to tradition?

Today: White Civic makes a right turn from 10th avenue onto 55th St, the
wrong way on a one way street. I was counting my spokes or something
waiting for the light, then I see her, but I manage to wave her off before
she hit the horse carraige.

I never see more than one of those a year, what's up with twice in a row?
Law of large numbers or something?

There's something in the air/tides/biorythms/planetary alignment.
Three flats in three days for me. Glass, staple, staple.

I keep reminding myself: I'm clocking a fair number of miles, and
taking the road less traveled by. Flat happens.

I just hate that feeling when you, unknowingly, took the puncture
about 25 feet before a 20mph turn ... and the bike turns into limp
pasta noodles as you corner.....

"Claire Petersky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"AustinMN" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Andy Gee blurted out without thinking:

Quoted message said:

Bright red Jaguar leaves the Chelsea Piers automobile access
road and makes a right turn heading _directly into_ the bicycle
greenway.

<snip>

Quoted message said:

White Civic makes a right turn from 10th avenue onto 55th St, the
wrong way on a one way street.

<snip>

You must be from New York City. There are some Americans that might
assume the whole world knows where their insignificant little dot on
the map is, but only a New Yorker assumes the whole world knows where
their street intersections are.

I refer to local streets all the time, mainly for the benefit of Mr.
Buson. The rest of you have not a clue where the intersection of Richard's
Road and Eastgate Way is, but that doesn't matter, does it?

I draw detailed diagrams.

🙂

(Tom Keats) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

lowkey said:

Quoted message said:

I refer to local streets all the time, mainly for the benefit of Mr.
Buson. The rest of you have not a clue where the intersection of Richard's
Road and Eastgate Way is, but that doesn't matter, does it?

I draw detailed diagrams.

🙂

I clairvoyantly see what people are talkin' about.

Mr. Keats-

The judges have termed that a double entendre (Ms. Petersky) and have
awarded you five extra points.

Best,

Neil

In article <[email hidden]>,

lowkey said:

Quoted message said:

I refer to local streets all the time, mainly for the benefit of Mr.
Buson. The rest of you have not a clue where the intersection of Richard's
Road and Eastgate Way is, but that doesn't matter, does it?

I draw detailed diagrams.

🙂

I clairvoyantly see what people are talkin' about.

cheers,
Tom

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Andy Gee said:

Yesterday: Bright red Jaguar leaves the Chelsea Piers automobile access
road and makes a right turn heading _directly into_ the bicycle greenway.
He almost got dragged out of his car and lynched. Aren't Jaguars supposed
to be ale-bottle green, anyway? What's happened to tradition?

Today: White Civic makes a right turn from 10th avenue onto 55th St, the
wrong way on a one way street. I was counting my spokes or something
waiting for the light, then I see her, but I manage to wave her off before
she hit the horse carraige.

I never see more than one of those a year, what's up with twice in a row?
Law of large numbers or something?

And speaking of two in a row, what's up with the fuel tanker trucks
suddenly exploding?

--ag

Do these areas have proper/adequate signage? The drivers in question
may simply be from out of town. Having driven in many places, I've had
to deal with more than my share of confusing road layouts. That said,
most of the signage I've encountered in the US has been excellent.

Americans, like ancient Romans, do build excellent roads.

Of course, if they are locals, they need to get their acts together.

Claire Petersky said:

I refer to local streets all the time, mainly for the benefit of Mr. Buson.
The rest of you have not a clue where the intersection of Richard's Road and
Eastgate Way is, but that doesn't matter, does it?

Of course, you are referring to this location:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=SE+Eastgate+Way+%26+129th+Pl+SE,+Bellevue,+WA+98005&spn=0.011977,0.025481&t=h&hl=en

http://tinyurl.com/aeuqu

Aren't you?

There is something to be said for maps....

-Buck

P.S. If you are commuting through there, you have my sympathies.

Jeff Williams <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Do these areas have proper/adequate signage? The drivers in question
may simply be from out of town. Having driven in many places, I've
had to deal with more than my share of confusing road layouts. That
said, most of the signage I've encountered in the US has been
excellent.

Well, for the greenway, you might notice something if you were trying to
drive on a 4 foot lane. I'm not sure where the "no motor vehicles" sign
is relative to that entrance.

On 55th street, there's a one-way arrow. Every crosstown street in
Manhattan, except a few wide ones, has a one way arrow. Both cars had
NY plates.

Quoted message said:

Americans, like ancient Romans, do build excellent roads.

I understand there are Roman roads from 2,000 years ago that can handle
truck traffic today. I know there are aquaducts still functioning after
thousands of years. Manhattan roads are lucky to last five years before
a thorough repaving is necessary. Many of the streets here are hollow,
and cars have been known to fall in from time to time. The interstates
are in pretty good shape, though. They may not last as long as Roman
roads but they'll get you there generally safely.

--ag

"Buck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Claire Petersky said:

I refer to local streets all the time, mainly for the benefit of Mr.
Buson.
The rest of you have not a clue where the intersection of Richard's Road
and
Eastgate Way is, but that doesn't matter, does it?

Of course, you are referring to this location:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=SE+Eastgate+Way+%26+129th+Pl+SE,+Bellevue,+WA+98005&spn=0.011977,0.025481&t=h&hl=en

http://tinyurl.com/aeuqu

Aren't you?

There is something to be said for maps....

And Google Earth. A truly impressive app.

"lowkey" wrote: I draw detailed diagrams.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I draw criticism.

Andy Gee said:

Yesterday: Bright red Jaguar leaves the Chelsea Piers automobile access
road and makes a right turn heading _directly into_ the bicycle greenway.
He almost got dragged out of his car and lynched. Aren't Jaguars supposed
to be ale-bottle green, anyway? What's happened to tradition?

I think this is the location (can get much closer with the coordinates
in Google Earth):

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=10th+Ave+%26+W+55th+St,+New+York,+NY+10019&spn=0.006724,0.012740&t=h&hl=en

http://tinyurl.com/96o43

Quoted message said:

Today: White Civic makes a right turn from 10th avenue onto 55th St, the
wrong way on a one way street. I was counting my spokes or something
waiting for the light, then I see her, but I manage to wave her off before
she hit the horse carraige.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=10th+Ave+%26+W+55th+St,+New+York,+NY+10019&spn=0.006724,0.012740&t=h&hl=en

http://tinyurl.com/96o43

There ya go!

-Buck

andy gee wrote:
....

Quoted message said:

On 55th street, there's a one-way arrow. Every crosstown street in
Manhattan, except a few wide ones, has a one way arrow. Both cars had
NY plates.

....

The plates are irrelevant. The two drivers might have been from Buffalo
and might have been driving in NYC for the first time. I've never been
to NYC, but I gather that it is a very busy place so I expect driving
there requires a little bit of mental adjustment from those unused to
such conditions.

Regarding the OP, it's always good not to jump to conclusions.

"Buck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Claire Petersky said:

I refer to local streets all the time, mainly for the benefit of Mr.
Buson.
The rest of you have not a clue where the intersection of Richard's Road
and
Eastgate Way is, but that doesn't matter, does it?

Of course, you are referring to this location:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=SE+Eastgate+Way+%26+129th+Pl+SE,+Bellevue,+WA+98005&spn=0.011977,0.025481&t=h&hl=en

http://tinyurl.com/aeuqu

Aren't you?

There is something to be said for maps....

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P.S. If you are commuting through there, you have my sympathies.

It actually isn't as bad as it looks. From Richard's Road up either Eastgate
Way or SE 36th is a 5% grade for a mile to get to the top at BCC. Coming
down the hill, you just fly down close enough to the posted speed limit that
you can take the lane with a clear conscience. Going up, there's a decent
shoulder, so you can slog it at 8 mph if you need to and there's no hassles.

Going under the I-90 freeway where there's no shoulder, the traffic's pretty
gnarly, but I just take the lane and really, the amount of hassles I suffer
are few. The I-90 trail starts there and from the trailhead to practically
downtown, it's a snap.

I have some pictures of the area on my site, here:
http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/commute1.html; and my friend Jim Carson
has some on his site, here:
http://www.jimcarson.com/a/2003/06/the_big_bike_co_1.shtml. Jim's pictures,
overall, are not only more numerous, but I think give a better idea of what
this section of the ride is like, especially on his continuation on the next
page.

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
See the books I've set free at:
http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

In article <[email hidden]>,

Neil Brooks said:

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I clairvoyantly see what people are talkin' about.

Mr. Keats-

The judges have termed that a double entendre (Ms. Petersky) and have
awarded you five extra points.

I knew you were going to say that :-) :-)

Sometimes I can do triple entendres, but it's
tough -- especially in a non-ribald context.

cheers,
Tom

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Claire Petersky said:

I refer to local streets all the time, mainly for the benefit of Mr. Buson.
The rest of you have not a clue where the intersection of Richard's Road and
Eastgate Way is, but that doesn't matter, does it?

Speaking of which, I passed some fellow (presumably a beginner commuter)
today turning left off the I-90 offramp onto Richards road. I'm assuming
he's just starting since he was riding this morning without fenders
(hence a nice stripe up his backside), using a messenger bag instead of
rack/bike bag, and totally set himself to get creamed by the driver at
the head of the line. [1]

I'm noticing more bike traffic than usual for this late in the year.
Which is cool because, hey, more people biking is good. At least that's
what I keep telling myself.

[1] Instead of being positioned in the lane to turn left, he came up
and sat to the right of the front car. [2]
[2] This is a left turn lane *and* a straight-through lane. [3]
[3] I probably should have said something to him, but I was running
really late.

--
Dane Buson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
Rincewind had generally been considered by his tutors to be a natural wizard
in the same way that fish are natural mountaineers. He probably would have
been thrown out of Unseen University anyway--he couldn't remember spells and
smoking made him feel ill.
-- Terry Pratchett, "The Light Fantastic"

Claire Petersky said:

It actually isn't as bad as it looks. From Richard's Road up either Eastgate
Way or SE 36th is a 5% grade for a mile to get to the top at BCC. Coming
down the hill, you just fly down close enough to the posted speed limit that
you can take the lane with a clear conscience. Going up, there's a decent
shoulder, so you can slog it at 8 mph if you need to and there's no hassles.

It wasn't bad going up it on the fixed gear (42/17/700cx32). Going down
it was... scary^W^H interesting. And the grade is actually closer to 8%
for the main hill section I believe.

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The world really isn't any worse.
It's just that the news coverage is so much better.

"Dane Buson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Claire Petersky said:

It actually isn't as bad as it looks. From Richard's Road up either
Eastgate
Way or SE 36th is a 5% grade for a mile to get to the top at BCC. Coming
down the hill, you just fly down close enough to the posted speed limit
that
you can take the lane with a clear conscience. Going up, there's a decent
shoulder, so you can slog it at 8 mph if you need to and there's no
hassles.

It wasn't bad going up it on the fixed gear (42/17/700cx32).

ooo, you da man.

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Going down
it was... scary^W^H interesting. And the grade is actually closer to 8%
for the main hill section I believe.

You're probably right. I have 5% for the whole thing from top to bottom, but
it levels out in several places.

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
See the books I've set free at:
http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky