Voodoo magic

In article <[email hidden]>, Dally <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I've had tendonitis in my shoulder for about two years now. It comes
and goes, but has been hurting a lot lately so I decided to try
acupuncture. Today was my first day.

The lady explained some voodoo involving "chee" (short for "cheese
doodles"😉 and how the energy flow (of the orange powder) would course
from my over-chee-ful legs into my chee-depleted shoulder if she only
would stick me with these dozen or so needles.

I'm no wimp, and the needles looked really tiny, so I agreed to this.

Well, it turns out the needles didn't hurt at all. And that's bad, so
she kept pushing them in until they did hurt. She wasn't quite
satisfied until I made little yelping sounds with each needle. Stoicism
bought me NOTHING.

Then she tweaked the needles for a bit, left me for twenty minutes to
lie there being a pin cushion, and came back to remove the pins and
collect her money.

I forgot to ask her if it's okay for me to take ibuprofin afterwards.
Doesn't matter, though.

Because my shoulder stopped hurting.

Dally

Cool. :-)

Is that, like, to get rid of a headache, drop a brick on your toe???

just kidding! <lol>

I've heard good things about acupuncture, even with pets.

But never had the guts to try it.

Well done!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Ryan Case said:

Dally said:

I've had tendonitis in my shoulder for about two years now. It comes
and goes, but has been hurting a lot lately so I decided to try
acupuncture. Today was my first day.

The lady explained some voodoo involving "chee" (short for "cheese
doodles"😉 and how the energy flow (of the orange powder) would course
from my over-chee-ful legs into my chee-depleted shoulder if she only
would stick me with these dozen or so needles.

I'm no wimp, and the needles looked really tiny, so I agreed to this.

Well, it turns out the needles didn't hurt at all. And that's bad, so
she kept pushing them in until they did hurt. She wasn't quite
satisfied until I made little yelping sounds with each needle. Stoicism
bought me NOTHING.

Then she tweaked the needles for a bit, left me for twenty minutes to
lie there being a pin cushion, and came back to remove the pins and
collect her money.

I forgot to ask her if it's okay for me to take ibuprofin afterwards.
Doesn't matter, though.

Because my shoulder stopped hurting.

Dally

Next you'll be handing out long distance "chi-strikes" while using your
"one-point" to stay firmly attached to the earth while balancing on your
smallest toe.

Damn Voodoo woman, just rub some dirt on it.

Ryan

That made about as much sense as the cheese doodle explanation. Want to
expand on this?

Probably something to do with an exotic, chinese martial art.

"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I've had tendonitis in my shoulder for about two years now. It comes and
goes, but has been hurting a lot lately so I decided to try acupuncture.
Today was my first day.

The lady explained some voodoo involving "chee" (short for "cheese
doodles"😉 and how the energy flow (of the orange powder) would course from
my over-chee-ful legs into my chee-depleted shoulder if she only would
stick me with these dozen or so needles.

I'm no wimp, and the needles looked really tiny, so I agreed to this.

Well, it turns out the needles didn't hurt at all. And that's bad, so she
kept pushing them in until they did hurt. She wasn't quite satisfied
until I made little yelping sounds with each needle. Stoicism bought me
NOTHING.

Then she tweaked the needles for a bit, left me for twenty minutes to lie
there being a pin cushion, and came back to remove the pins and collect
her money.

I forgot to ask her if it's okay for me to take ibuprofin afterwards.
Doesn't matter, though.

Because my shoulder stopped hurting.

No, no, you must provide a placebo controlled, double blind study, otherwise
your shoulder still hurts.

Thousands of years of anecdotal evidence involving millions of Chinese don't
mean anything.

You must take drugs. You are suffering from an ibuprofen deficiency.

David

David Cohen said:

"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I've had tendonitis in my shoulder for about two years now. It comes and
goes, but has been hurting a lot lately so I decided to try acupuncture.
Today was my first day.

The lady explained some voodoo involving "chee" (short for "cheese
doodles"😉 and how the energy flow (of the orange powder) would course from
my over-chee-ful legs into my chee-depleted shoulder if she only would
stick me with these dozen or so needles.

I'm no wimp, and the needles looked really tiny, so I agreed to this.

Well, it turns out the needles didn't hurt at all. And that's bad, so she
kept pushing them in until they did hurt. She wasn't quite satisfied
until I made little yelping sounds with each needle. Stoicism bought me
NOTHING.

Then she tweaked the needles for a bit, left me for twenty minutes to lie
there being a pin cushion, and came back to remove the pins and collect
her money.

I forgot to ask her if it's okay for me to take ibuprofin afterwards.
Doesn't matter, though.

Because my shoulder stopped hurting.

No, no, you must provide a placebo controlled, double blind study, otherwise
your shoulder still hurts.

Thousands of years of anecdotal evidence involving millions of Chinese don't
mean anything.

You must take drugs. You are suffering from an ibuprofen deficiency.

Along those lines, one martial arts instructor who was also apparently
well versed in accupressure showed me how to reduce/relieve a headache
by squeezing the muscle in the area of my hand between my thumb and
first finger. It kind of worked as I recall.

Even wierder, a good friend reports that his irritable bowel syndrome
symptoms were pretty much totally eliminated when he went to a physical
therapist for something else and after she heard about the ibs,
massaged his liver by pressing up under his ribcage and massaging, thus
"breaking up adhesions." His problems vanished.

- bc

I've had tendonitis in my shoulder for about two years now. It comes
and goes, but has been hurting a lot lately so I decided to try
acupuncture. Today was my first day.

The lady explained some voodoo involving "chee" (short for "cheese
doodles"😉 and how the energy flow (of the orange powder) would course
from my over-chee-ful legs into my chee-depleted shoulder if she only
would stick me with these dozen or so needles.

I'm no wimp, and the needles looked really tiny, so I agreed to this.

Well, it turns out the needles didn't hurt at all. And that's bad, so
she kept pushing them in until they did hurt. She wasn't quite
satisfied until I made little yelping sounds with each needle. Stoicism
bought me NOTHING.

Then she tweaked the needles for a bit, left me for twenty minutes to
lie there being a pin cushion, and came back to remove the pins and
collect her money.

I forgot to ask her if it's okay for me to take ibuprofin afterwards.
Doesn't matter, though.

Because my shoulder stopped hurting.

Dally

Dally said:

Ryan Case said:

Dally said:

I've had tendonitis in my shoulder for about two years now. It comes
and goes, but has been hurting a lot lately so I decided to try
acupuncture. Today was my first day.

The lady explained some voodoo involving "chee" (short for "cheese
doodles"😉 and how the energy flow (of the orange powder) would course
from my over-chee-ful legs into my chee-depleted shoulder if she only
would stick me with these dozen or so needles.

I'm no wimp, and the needles looked really tiny, so I agreed to this.

Well, it turns out the needles didn't hurt at all. And that's bad,
so she kept pushing them in until they did hurt. She wasn't quite
satisfied until I made little yelping sounds with each needle.
Stoicism bought me NOTHING.

Then she tweaked the needles for a bit, left me for twenty minutes to
lie there being a pin cushion, and came back to remove the pins and
collect her money.

I forgot to ask her if it's okay for me to take ibuprofin afterwards.
Doesn't matter, though.

Because my shoulder stopped hurting.

Dally

Next you'll be handing out long distance "chi-strikes" while using
your "one-point" to stay firmly attached to the earth while balancing
on your smallest toe.

Damn Voodoo woman, just rub some dirt on it.

Ryan

That made about as much sense as the cheese doodle explanation. Want to
expand on this?

Dally

I am prolly going to get flamed for this becuase my knowledge in the
internal arts is fairly limited. (Shudokan and Go-Ju are my base)

But, there are martial arts that claim to be able to strike you with
nothing more then one's chi. (Internal Energry). Some MA spoof movies
will have them doing it over the phone, a long-distance chi strike.

Aikido, which I have a little experience in, has a concept refered to as
"one point". A skilled practitioner can focus his chi to one point on
the ground, in essence binding him to it.

I had an instructor that could do this well enough that it was quite
difficult for me, a 6'3" 275lber at the time, to knock him off
balance/move him as he was sitting cross legged on the floor. It was
impressive.

If memory serves correct, one of the less vocal regulars is an Aikido
practitioner. Hopefully he will expound on/correct what I have said as
it has been years since I had any instruction.

It was just a, I thought obvious, good natured poke at you looking to
internal arts for healing. More power to you IMO though.

Ryan

Ryan Case said:

Dally said:

I've had tendonitis in my shoulder for about two years now. It comes
and goes, but has been hurting a lot lately so I decided to try
acupuncture. Today was my first day.

The lady explained some voodoo involving "chee" (short for "cheese
doodles"😉 and how the energy flow (of the orange powder) would course
from my over-chee-ful legs into my chee-depleted shoulder if she only
would stick me with these dozen or so needles.

I'm no wimp, and the needles looked really tiny, so I agreed to this.

Well, it turns out the needles didn't hurt at all. And that's bad, so
she kept pushing them in until they did hurt. She wasn't quite
satisfied until I made little yelping sounds with each needle.
Stoicism bought me NOTHING.

Then she tweaked the needles for a bit, left me for twenty minutes to
lie there being a pin cushion, and came back to remove the pins and
collect her money.

I forgot to ask her if it's okay for me to take ibuprofin afterwards.
Doesn't matter, though.

Because my shoulder stopped hurting.

Dally

Next you'll be handing out long distance "chi-strikes" while using your
"one-point" to stay firmly attached to the earth while balancing on your
smallest toe.

Damn Voodoo woman, just rub some dirt on it.

Ryan

That made about as much sense as the cheese doodle explanation. Want to
expand on this?

Dally

Ryan Case said:

Dally said:

Ryan Case wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Next you'll be handing out long distance "chi-strikes" while using
your "one-point" to stay firmly attached to the earth while balancing
on your smallest toe.

Damn Voodoo woman, just rub some dirt on it.

Ryan

That made about as much sense as the cheese doodle explanation. Want
to expand on this?

Quoted message said:

But, there are martial arts that claim to be able to strike you with
nothing more then one's chi. (Internal Energry). Some MA spoof movies
will have them doing it over the phone, a long-distance chi strike.

I had completely missed this part of martial arts. Two of my kids are
green belts in okinowan karate, and my husband does two arts as well.
But they've all completely neglected to mention to me if they've got chi
strike ability.

Quoted message said:

Aikido, which I have a little experience in, has a concept refered to as
"one point". A skilled practitioner can focus his chi to one point on
the ground, in essence binding him to it.

I had an instructor that could do this well enough that it was quite
difficult for me, a 6'3" 275lber at the time, to knock him off
balance/move him as he was sitting cross legged on the floor. It was
impressive.

Cool. Didn't know about that one, either.

Quoted message said:

It was just a, I thought obvious, good natured poke at you looking to
internal arts for healing. More power to you IMO though.

I took it as such, just didn't get the references. Thanks for explaining.

Dally

David Cohen said:

"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I've had tendonitis in my shoulder for about two years now. It comes and
goes, but has been hurting a lot lately so I decided to try acupuncture.
Today was my first day.

The lady explained some voodoo involving "chee" (short for "cheese
doodles"😉 and how the energy flow (of the orange powder) would course from
my over-chee-ful legs into my chee-depleted shoulder if she only would
stick me with these dozen or so needles.

I'm no wimp, and the needles looked really tiny, so I agreed to this.

Well, it turns out the needles didn't hurt at all. And that's bad, so she
kept pushing them in until they did hurt. She wasn't quite satisfied
until I made little yelping sounds with each needle. Stoicism bought me
NOTHING.

Then she tweaked the needles for a bit, left me for twenty minutes to lie
there being a pin cushion, and came back to remove the pins and collect
her money.

I forgot to ask her if it's okay for me to take ibuprofin afterwards.
Doesn't matter, though.

Because my shoulder stopped hurting.

No, no, you must provide a placebo controlled, double blind study, otherwise
your shoulder still hurts.

Thousands of years of anecdotal evidence involving millions of Chinese don't
mean anything.

You must take drugs. You are suffering from an ibuprofen deficiency.

Thanks for doing your part in effecting my cure.

Laughter is still the best medicine.

Dally

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Dally <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I've had tendonitis in my shoulder for about two years now. It comes
and goes, but has been hurting a lot lately so I decided to try
acupuncture. Today was my first day.

The lady explained some voodoo involving "chee" (short for "cheese
doodles"😉 and how the energy flow (of the orange powder) would course
from my over-chee-ful legs into my chee-depleted shoulder if she only
would stick me with these dozen or so needles.

I'm no wimp, and the needles looked really tiny, so I agreed to this.

Well, it turns out the needles didn't hurt at all. And that's bad, so
she kept pushing them in until they did hurt. She wasn't quite
satisfied until I made little yelping sounds with each needle. Stoicism
bought me NOTHING.

Then she tweaked the needles for a bit, left me for twenty minutes to
lie there being a pin cushion, and came back to remove the pins and
collect her money.

I forgot to ask her if it's okay for me to take ibuprofin afterwards.
Doesn't matter, though.

Because my shoulder stopped hurting.

Dally

Cool. :-)

Is that, like, to get rid of a headache, drop a brick on your toe???

just kidding! <lol>

I've heard good things about acupuncture, even with pets.

But never had the guts to try it.

Well done!

It doesn't take all that much guts, more like a suspension of disbelief.
This course of treatment (she wants me there weekly for a month or so)
is going to cost me a couple of hundred dollars and I loath parting with
money at the best of times. Parting with money for a scam? Not fun for me.

Nothing in my experience prepares me for chi. Okay, one thing does:
homeopathy. One of my close maternal relatives (that's not too
specific, is it?) is really into homeopathy and she tells me about how
the tinctures are diluted down to nearly nothing and filled out with
sugar. Well... isn't that called THE PLACEBO EFFECT? Homeopathy is
major [censored] for gullible people, in my opinion. But sometimes I
pretend to be okay with it for peace in the family. So that's the
attitude I'm taking with acupuncture. Can't see how it'd work, but may
as well go along with it in case I'm wrong.

I'll tell you what, though: if this chi stuff turns out to not be [censored]
then I'm really going to have to revisit the whole prayer issue again.

Dally

Quoted message said:

It doesn't take all that much guts, more like a suspension of disbelief.
This course of treatment (she wants me there weekly for a month or so)
is going to cost me a couple of hundred dollars and I loath parting with
money at the best of times. Parting with money for a scam? Not fun for
me.

Nothing in my experience prepares me for chi. Okay, one thing does:
homeopathy. One of my close maternal relatives (that's not too
specific, is it?) is really into homeopathy and she tells me about how
the tinctures are diluted down to nearly nothing and filled out with
sugar. Well... isn't that called THE PLACEBO EFFECT? Homeopathy is
major [censored] for gullible people, in my opinion. But sometimes I
pretend to be okay with it for peace in the family. So that's the
attitude I'm taking with acupuncture. Can't see how it'd work, but may
as well go along with it in case I'm wrong.

I'll tell you what, though: if this chi stuff turns out to not be [censored]
then I'm really going to have to revisit the whole prayer issue again.

Dally

A surprising amount of folk medicine (e.g. acupuncture) actually works, but the
explanations for *WHY* it works are medievally stupid. Educated contemporaries
of Aristotle were totally wrong about gravity, believing that objects fell with
speed proportionate to their weight, but they could still nail archery bullseyes.

Dally said:

David Cohen said:

"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I've had tendonitis in my shoulder for about two years now. It comes and
goes, but has been hurting a lot lately so I decided to try acupuncture.
Today was my first day.

The lady explained some voodoo involving "chee" (short for "cheese
doodles"😉 and how the energy flow (of the orange powder) would course from
my over-chee-ful legs into my chee-depleted shoulder if she only would
stick me with these dozen or so needles.

I'm no wimp, and the needles looked really tiny, so I agreed to this.

Well, it turns out the needles didn't hurt at all. And that's bad, so she
kept pushing them in until they did hurt. She wasn't quite satisfied
until I made little yelping sounds with each needle. Stoicism bought me
NOTHING.

Then she tweaked the needles for a bit, left me for twenty minutes to lie
there being a pin cushion, and came back to remove the pins and collect
her money.

I forgot to ask her if it's okay for me to take ibuprofin afterwards.
Doesn't matter, though.

Because my shoulder stopped hurting.

No, no, you must provide a placebo controlled, double blind study, otherwise
your shoulder still hurts.

Thousands of years of anecdotal evidence involving millions of Chinese don't
mean anything.

You must take drugs. You are suffering from an ibuprofen deficiency.

Thanks for doing your part in effecting my cure.

Laughter is still the best medicine.

Just don't pull a muscle laughing. You'll be back to the
acupuncturist. What? ... it happens.

- bc