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  1. I suppose you can't expect those selling zappers to know a good testimonial
    when they see one.

    http://www.bestzapper.com/

    A man was cured of a level 3 (not into the deeper layers of the skin-tumour
    thickness not given) melanoma by simple surgery. He claims he was advised
    to also have radiotherapy and chemotherapy, but that would be regarded as
    gross overtreatment any present standards and may be an exaggeration for
    effect.

    Without comment, he also describes how despite all the alternative methods
    he used after an initial excision-biopsy, he developed a local recurrence
    of melanoma and required a further local excision.

    He later developed what sounds like a typical gynaecomastia (tender lump
    directly under the nipple which grew for seven months and then subsided),
    probably from one of the herbs or supplements he was taking, but attributes
    the cure of this unbiopsied and almost certainly benign lesion to the
    miracles of Hulda Clark's care.

    This is the featured testimonial on a site selling zappers. What more do you
    need to know ?

    Peter Moran

  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Zapper testimonial
    From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
    Date: 5/10/2004 5:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    This is the featured testimonial on a site selling zappers. What more do you
    need to know ?

    Peter Moran

    them danged little flukes!!
    hawki.....

  3. In article
    <[email hidden]
    m.au>,

    Peter Moran said:

    I suppose you can't expect those selling zappers to know a good testimonial
    when they see one.

    http://www.bestzapper.com/

    A man was cured of a level 3 (not into the deeper layers of the skin-tumour
    thickness not given) melanoma by simple surgery. He claims he was advised
    to also have radiotherapy and chemotherapy, but that would be regarded as
    gross overtreatment any present standards and may be an exaggeration for
    effect.

    Indeed. Melanoma is notoriously resistant to radiation and chemotherapy.
    Biological therapy with interferon-alpha is the only approved
    nonsurgical treatment for melanoma. Chemotherapy and radiation are
    usually only given under the auspices of clinical trials. In 1987, a
    full lymph node dissection was usually recommended for his melanoma,
    which was intermediate risk for lymph node metastases. Nowadays a
    procedure known as sentinel lymph node biopsy would be done, in which
    dye would be used to identify the one lymph node most likely to contain
    tumor. If that's negative, no lymph node dissection is done. If it is
    positive, a completion lymph node dissection is recommended. Most
    likely, surgery alone cured him, as even in intermediate risk melanomas,
    a significant proportion don't have any lymph node metastases. If he was
    node negative, his survival would be expected to be quite good.

    Quoted message said:

    Without comment, he also describes how despite all the alternative methods
    he used after an initial excision-biopsy, he developed a local recurrence
    of melanoma and required a further local excision.

    Not surprising. He probably had too narrow a margin of normal tissue
    around his original excisional biopsy.

    Quoted message said:

    He later developed what sounds like a typical gynaecomastia (tender lump
    directly under the nipple which grew for seven months and then subsided),
    probably from one of the herbs or supplements he was taking, but attributes
    the cure of this unbiopsied and almost certainly benign lesion to the
    miracles of Hulda Clark's care.

    Herbal supplements are notorious for containing estrogenic compounds.
    PC-SPES, for instance, has activity against prostate cancer. The reason,
    it was discovered, is that it contains many naturally occurring
    estrogen-like compounds. Such compounds could easily result in
    gynecomastia. Without a tissue biopsy, it is impossible to tell what it
    was, but it certainly sounds like run-of-the-mill gynecomastia.

    Quoted message said:

    This is the featured testimonial on a site selling zappers. What more do you
    need to know ?

    Indeed.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  4. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Zapper testimonial
    From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
    Date: 5/10/2004 4:25 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    I suppose you can't expect those selling zappers to know a good testimonial
    when they see one.

    As usual you suppose wrong. The fact that the man was cured of cancer is WHY he
    is selling the zapper.

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.bestzapper.com/

    A man was cured of a level 3 (not into the deeper layers of the skin-tumour
    thickness not given) melanoma by simple surgery. He claims he was advised
    to also have radiotherapy and chemotherapy, but that would be regarded as
    gross overtreatment any present standards and may be an exaggeration for
    effect.

    Without comment, he also describes how despite all the alternative methods
    he used after an initial excision-biopsy, he developed a local recurrence
    of melanoma and required a further local excision.

    He later developed what sounds like a typical gynaecomastia (tender lump
    directly under the nipple which grew for seven months and then subsided),
    probably from one of the herbs or supplements he was taking, but attributes
    the cure of this unbiopsied and almost certainly benign lesion to the
    miracles of Hulda Clark's care.

    This is the featured testimonial on a site selling zappers. What more do you
    need to know ?

    Peter Moran

    You need to know the man. A wonderful guy who was the one who told me where Dr
    Frank Jerome was located when I was ready to search all over and travel miles
    to find a good alternative dentist.

    Art and I stayed in contact for a few years, he is indeed a very good Christian
    man.

    Secondly, I have posted his website back in 1999, IIRC that was before he sold
    zappers, and you can read his coments.

    Jan

    From: JDrew63929 ([email hidden])
    Subject: THANK YOU HULDA CLARK
    This is the only article in this thread
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    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    Date: 1999/05/20

    How I was Healed of Cancer - Twice!
    Hi! My name is Arthur Doerksen, president of A.D.Comtronics & Engineering in
    Langley, British Columbia, Canada. I am not a medical practitioner, and do not
    prescribe or treat. I am simply sharing my story and opinions to encourage
    others to consider alternative approaches and to take responsibility for their
    own health. I am a naturally skeptical electronic engineer who has had cancer
    twice (malignant melanoma, October/87, and breast tumor April/94), and has very
    successfully used Dr. Clark's low dose herbal approach to get rid of the breast
    tumor - in just three months. I now use the Auto-Zap zapper every other day to
    remain parasite-free.
    My mother's family history was rife with cancer: she had five different types
    of cancer on five different occasions. Before she was married she lost her
    right leg to sarcoma in the knee. Her mother and most of her siblings died
    early of cancer. On the other side, my father's father was the first recorded
    victim of pancreatic cancer in the province of Manitoba. I thought I definitely
    had the "cancer genes" or predisposition to this dread disease.

    My first cancer developed from a mole on my left shoulder. It had been a bit
    red, but not alarmingly so. I had had many moles taken off before, just to be
    safe, but none had tested malignant. When I bumped this one on a machine I was
    fixing, it bled profusely. I went straight to the doctor to have it excised. He
    took it off routinely, but found it was a very aggressive malignant melanoma,
    Clark's level 3. I went to a surgeon who recommended a five-inch circular full
    depth excision and dissection of the lymph nodes under my left arm, followed by
    radiation and chemo. When I rejected his "cut, burn and poison," he put
    enormous pressure on my wife, Lyn, to persuade me.

    We instead contacted the Cancer Control Society, and began intensive research
    on alternative cancer therapies. Though I had been well versed in medical
    technology and pharmacology, a cursory survey of the efficacy of conventional
    treatments showed that "modern medical science" was losing the war on cancer at
    an alarming rate (see the details: click here). Alternatives were needed, and
    we chose to build up my immune system rather than let the surgeon have it.

    We committed my health into God's hands in prayer, and I began taking ten grams
    of Vitamin C a day (as sodium ascorbate, recommended by Linus Pauling). Lyn
    moved us to a diet of foods "as close as possible to the hand of God", free of
    sugar, processing and preservatives. We also tried herbal teas (Essiac and
    taheebo) and anti-oxidants: vitamins A (beta carotene), E, selenium and zinc.
    At Christmas, 1989, I had an excision about two inches in diameter at the
    original site to clear up some things Lyn did not like. The pathology showed
    melanoma, but the margins were clear. Nothing came back after that.

    I first noticed the tumor in my left breast in April 1994 when I felt a sharp
    pain when I got a hug. I assumed it was a bruise, but it did not go away. My
    wife Lyn checked it and found a small lump directly behind the nipple. It grew
    in size and discomfort for seven months till it was about 1.25 inches across
    and 0.25 inches thick, and was starting to head toward my armpit. I was still
    taking eight grams of vitamin C daily with the other anti-oxidants. Then in
    November 1994, we got Dr. Hulda Regehr Clark's first book, The Cure for All
    Cancers. In the book she gives her theory that cancer is caused by a common
    parasite, the human intestinal fluke (fasciolopsis buskii), "catalyzed" by
    isopropyl alcohol accumulated in the liver.

    On November 23, 1994, I began the herbal parasite program, and Lyn went through
    the house clearing out all isopropyl-tainted soaps, shampoos, foods, body
    products, cleaners and other solvents. She put four cardboard boxes of the
    stuff outside under our deck. After five days on the parasite herbs I noticed
    that the pain reduced greatly (Dr. Clark says the parasites die on the fifth
    day with the herbs), and after two weeks Lyn could feel a noticeable decrease
    in size of the tumor. After three months the tumor was gone!

    On February 22, 1995 Lyn and I spent two full hours with Dr. Clark (then at the
    Manner Clinic in Tijuana) to be tested and learn all we could so that we could
    help others in Canada. I tested free of malignancy, but had high mercury levels
    from tooth fillings (Lyn and I have since had all the metal removed from our
    mouths and replaced with a composite called Helio-Molar from IvoClar). Dr.
    Clark told us (correctly) that we had a gas leak in our home 1600 miles away,
    because we had high vanadium levels in our bodies. She found that in about two
    seconds: do you know any other test that fast, sensitive and cheap? A friend
    that she tested with us was told that she had Freon from a leaking fridge
    (right again!).

    Lyn and I have met Dr. Clark several times, and can assure you that she is a
    very careful scientist who insists on controlled, repeatable testing and keeps
    good records. For twenty years she did government-funded research in human
    physiology at the University of Indiana, Bloomington. She got into natural
    methods after her life was saved by a natural antiviral potion that killed
    herpes simplex that had reached her eyes and brain (see The Story of L-G, page
    411 in The Cure for HIV and AIDS). The orthodox medical experts had just said,
    "Sorry - it's a virus."

    Hulda Regehr Clark, Ph.D., N.D., is also a humble and teachable lady-compare
    that with your average oncologist! If she does not know something she will say
    so, and add with a twinkle, "Why don't you find out?" Dr. Clark did not publish
    until she had 100 theoretically cured cases in December 1993. She has over a
    thousand from her own practice now, and many more around the world through her
    books. All her "secrets" are published: she wants you to "do it yourself". You
    can contact her through the Self Health Resource Center at the address in the
    back of the books, or by phone at 619-409-9500 [619-409-9501 fax]: please be
    patient, as she gets a ton of mail and calls.

    I believe that Hulda Clark's greatest contribution has been the linking of
    parasites with environmental toxins as co-factors in the genesis of cancer and
    many other diseases. And this link was discovered by good detective work, using
    the Dermatron and her simple "Syncrometer" tester. Her development of the
    zapper is also a major contribution to the war on parasites.

    If you have read this far and it sounds too good to be true, please read one of
    her books before you blast Dr. Clark, her methods, or her results. You will be
    pleasantly surprised if you follow her advice. And her methods embody the
    Hippocratic principle: at least do no harm. Compare that with the "cut, burn
    and poison" of the other guys.

  5. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Zapper testimonial
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 5/10/2004 8:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    As usual you suppose wrong. The fact that the man was cured of cancer is WHY
    he
    is selling the zapper.

    snippedity

    naturally Jan the know nothing who "knows" more than Peter and Orac ...would
    "zap" back with such an answer

    perhaps Janster doesn't KNOW about gynecomastia is NOT breast cancer....

    and that melanoma WILL go away with surgical excision...

    and that this guy...and Janster...are shills for the Hulda not a doctor Clark

    hawki.....

  6. <<
    and that this guy...and Janster...are shills for the Hulda not a doctor Clark

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Wow, such talk!! If you are pointing the finger at Jan, who might we think you
    might be a shill for? It is obvious, you don't care for alternative
    medicine....and those that support it....perhaps you would be better suited for
    the a hate newsgroup?

    "If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well dance." (Jessie Winchester).

  7. "DEBBEE1023" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    <<

    Quoted message said:

    perhaps you would be better suited for
    the a hate newsgroup?

    Which are your favorites where you post everyday?

  8. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Zapper testimonial
    From: [email hidden] (DEBBEE1023)
    Date: 5/10/2004 11:15 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    <<
    and that this guy...and Janster...are shills for the Hulda not a doctor Clark

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Wow, such talk!! If you are pointing the finger at Jan, who might we think
    you
    might be a shill for? It is obvious, you don't care for alternative
    medicine....and those that support it....perhaps you would be better suited
    for
    the a hate newsgroup?

    Yuper a shill 4 shore!!.Have you ever seen a shill who told of the many
    mistakes the company is making??

    Sure thing.

    Jan

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