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Other than the one under your wig, did you have a point?

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(Jan) said:

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I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them that Jan is
a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Aloha,
Rich

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The best defense to logic is ignorance

Quoted message said:

(Jan) said:

Sent to [email hidden]

I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them that Jan is
a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Aloha,
Rich

I second the motion & as Always, I _AM_ Unanimous in that!

Rich.@. said:

(Jan) said:

Sent to [email hidden]

I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them that Jan is
a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Done.

Here is what I said:

You may have received some complaints from a Jan Drew about one of
your subscribers, Mark Thorson. Please ignore these whines.

Like most Usenet newsgroups, misc.health.alternative has a small core
of regular posters, and Mark is a valued member of our small
community. Even if he weren't, I would support his right to free
speech. I extend this courtesy to Jan Drew as well, even though she
has been defaming me on almost a daily basis for a long time. It is
also somewhat ironical that someone who uses the crippled AOL
newsreader which strips all except one newsgroup when replying to
posts should complain about what someone else does with "Follow-up".

Thank you.

--
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Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
From: [email hidden] (I Dream of Ilsa9)
Date: 4/8/2004 4:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

(Jan) said:

Sent to [email hidden]

I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them that Jan is
a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Aloha,
Rich

I second the motion & as Always, I _AM_ Unanimous in that!

Irrelevant. All Rich and you have done is shown once again your lowness of
character. Rules are rules and have nothing whatsoever to do with any little
plot the *gang* may have.

Sonic.net will make their determination depending on rules broken.

A pity enablers help others to do wrong.

Thanks once again for showing why I call you the *gang*.

Jan

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Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 4/8/2004 5:01 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Rich.@. said:

(Jan) said:

Sent to [email hidden]

I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them that Jan is
a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Done.

Here is what I said:

You may have received some complaints from a Jan Drew about one of
your subscribers, Mark Thorson. Please ignore these whines.

Like most Usenet newsgroups, misc.health.alternative has a small core
of regular posters, and Mark is a valued member of our small
community. Even if he weren't, I would support his right to free
speech. I extend this courtesy to Jan Drew as well, even though she
has been defaming me on almost a daily basis for a long time. It is
also somewhat ironical that someone who uses the crippled AOL
newsreader which strips all except one newsgroup when replying to
posts should complain about what someone else does with "Follow-up".

Thank you.

All irrelevant to ISP rules.

Mark does not have the right to sent posts that are sent here to another
newsgroup.

But I am not surprised that you condone wrong. That's what the *gang* is all
about. Furthmore if anyone has been defamed on this ng, we all know who it is.
So once again you lie, and whine.

You have defamed yourself, just as Andrew Kingoff has, so look in the mirror.

Jan

(Jan) said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 4/8/2004 5:01 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Rich.@. said:

On 08 Apr 2004 20:48:09 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan) wrote:

>Sent to [email hidden]
>

I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them that Jan is
a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Done.

Here is what I said:

You may have received some complaints from a Jan Drew about one of
your subscribers, Mark Thorson. Please ignore these whines.

Like most Usenet newsgroups, misc.health.alternative has a small core
of regular posters, and Mark is a valued member of our small
community. Even if he weren't, I would support his right to free
speech. I extend this courtesy to Jan Drew as well, even though she
has been defaming me on almost a daily basis for a long time. It is
also somewhat ironical that someone who uses the crippled AOL
newsreader which strips all except one newsgroup when replying to
posts should complain about what someone else does with "Follow-up".

Thank you.

All irrelevant to ISP rules.

Mark does not have the right to sent posts that are sent here to another
newsgroup.

He did not send your post anywhere. You did. If you want to be able to
send your posts here then get a newsreader that allows you to do it.

And if you respond to this post it will go to alt.test.

Aloha,

Rich

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The best defense to logic is ignorance

(Jan) said:

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Which shows how Jan Drew is harrassing other users...

There is a FAQ about the liar Jan Drew :

http://www.geocities.com/naturopathicmafia/Quackery.html

Jan Drew proves himself to be a liar and forger. Jan Drew abuses the
name of god. Jan Drew advertizes for quackery and charlatanism. To
fall for the lies of Jan Drew can be a terrible risk for the life of
you and your children.

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
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[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 4/8/2004 5:01 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Rich.@. said:

On 08 Apr 2004 20:48:09 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan) wrote:

>Sent to [email hidden]
>

I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them that Jan is
a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Done.

Here is what I said:

You may have received some complaints from a Jan Drew about one of
your subscribers, Mark Thorson. Please ignore these whines.

Like most Usenet newsgroups, misc.health.alternative has a small core
of regular posters, and Mark is a valued member of our small
community. Even if he weren't, I would support his right to free
speech. I extend this courtesy to Jan Drew as well, even though she
has been defaming me on almost a daily basis for a long time. It is
also somewhat ironical that someone who uses the crippled AOL
newsreader which strips all except one newsgroup when replying to
posts should complain about what someone else does with "Follow-up".

Thank you.

All irrelevant to ISP rules.

Mark does not have the right to sent posts that are sent here to another
newsgroup.

So crossposting is grounds for whining to someone's ISP? Gee whiz,
half of the people on Usenet ought to have their access yanked then,
huh?

Quoted message said:

But I am not surprised that you condone wrong. That's what the *gang* is all
about. Furthmore if anyone has been defamed on this ng, we all know who it is.
So once again you lie, and whine.

You have defamed yourself, just as Andrew Kingoff has, so look in the mirror.

Jan

"Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 4/8/2004 5:01 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Rich.@. wrote:

>On 08 Apr 2004 20:48:09 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan) wrote:
>
>>Sent to [email hidden]
>>
>
>I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them that Jan is
>a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a valuable public service.
>
>I have already e-mailed them.

Done.

Here is what I said:

You may have received some complaints from a Jan Drew about one of
your subscribers, Mark Thorson. Please ignore these whines.

Like most Usenet newsgroups, misc.health.alternative has a small core
of regular posters, and Mark is a valued member of our small
community. Even if he weren't, I would support his right to free
speech. I extend this courtesy to Jan Drew as well, even though she
has been defaming me on almost a daily basis for a long time. It is
also somewhat ironical that someone who uses the crippled AOL
newsreader which strips all except one newsgroup when replying to
posts should complain about what someone else does with "Follow-up".

Thank you.

All irrelevant to ISP rules.

Mark does not have the right to sent posts that are sent here to another
newsgroup.

So crossposting is grounds for whining to someone's ISP? Gee whiz,
half of the people on Usenet ought to have their access yanked then,
huh?

Only if they disagree with Jan.

snip

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Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
From: [email hidden] (Mark)
Date: 4/9/2004 8:39 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 4/8/2004 5:01 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Rich.@. wrote:

>On 08 Apr 2004 20:48:09 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan) wrote:
>
>>Sent to [email hidden]
>>
>
>I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them that Jan is
>a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a valuable public service.
>
>I have already e-mailed them.

Done.

Here is what I said:

You may have received some complaints from a Jan Drew about one of
your subscribers, Mark Thorson. Please ignore these whines.

Like most Usenet newsgroups, misc.health.alternative has a small core
of regular posters, and Mark is a valued member of our small
community. Even if he weren't, I would support his right to free
speech. I extend this courtesy to Jan Drew as well, even though she
has been defaming me on almost a daily basis for a long time. It is
also somewhat ironical that someone who uses the crippled AOL
newsreader which strips all except one newsgroup when replying to
posts should complain about what someone else does with "Follow-up".

Thank you.

All irrelevant to ISP rules.

Mark does not have the right to sent posts that are sent here to another
newsgroup.

So crossposting is grounds for whining to someone's ISP?

No, you are confused. Nothing about crossposting.

I know you are busy Mark, but you have a bad habit of jumping in the middle of
a thread, which ends in confusion. Read the whole thread.

Furthnore, Peter speaks of my defaming him. When it is he who is guilty.

He wrote:

Apart from the anti-vaccination liars, there could be no more vile
collection of anti-medicine bigots than those, like Jan Drew, who
would exploit the tragedy of adolescent suicide to further their
insane agenda against drugs which enable thousands of people to live
safe, useful and productive lives.

What a piece of work is Jan! how bereft of reason! how infinite in
sophistry! in words and quoting how so sly and deceitful! in action
how like an liar! in comprehension how like a rock! the nadir of the
world! the paragon of hypocrites!

In response to a news article made by the parents of a teen ager who committed
suicide, in the hopes of helping others.

Jan

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
From: [email hidden] (Mark)
Date: 4/9/2004 8:39 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

>Subject: Re: Re Quoting From,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
>From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
>Date: 4/8/2004 5:01 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email hidden]>
>
>Rich.@. wrote:
>
>>On 08 Apr 2004 20:48:09 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan) wrote:
>>
>>>Sent to [email hidden]
>>>
>>
>>I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them that Jan

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a valuable public service.
>>
>>I have already e-mailed them.
>
>Done.
>
>Here is what I said:
>
>You may have received some complaints from a Jan Drew about one of
>your subscribers, Mark Thorson. Please ignore these whines.
>
>Like most Usenet newsgroups, misc.health.alternative has a small core
>of regular posters, and Mark is a valued member of our small
>community. Even if he weren't, I would support his right to free
>speech. I extend this courtesy to Jan Drew as well, even though she
>has been defaming me on almost a daily basis for a long time. It is
>also somewhat ironical that someone who uses the crippled AOL
>newsreader which strips all except one newsgroup when replying to
>posts should complain about what someone else does with "Follow-up".
>
>Thank you.

All irrelevant to ISP rules.

Mark does not have the right to sent posts that are sent here to

another

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

newsgroup.

So crossposting is grounds for whining to someone's ISP?

No, you are confused. Nothing about crossposting.

I know you are busy Mark, but you have a bad habit of jumping in the

middle of

Quoted message said:

a thread, which ends in confusion. Read the whole thread.

Furthnore, Peter speaks of my defaming him. When it is he who is guilty.

He wrote:

Apart from the anti-vaccination liars, there could be no more vile
collection of anti-medicine bigots than those, like Jan Drew, who
would exploit the tragedy of adolescent suicide to further their
insane agenda against drugs which enable thousands of people to live
safe, useful and productive lives.

What a piece of work is Jan! how bereft of reason! how infinite in
sophistry! in words and quoting how so sly and deceitful! in action
how like an liar! in comprehension how like a rock! the nadir of the
world! the paragon of hypocrites!

In response to a news article made by the parents of a teen ager who

committed

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suicide, in the hopes of helping others.

Sorry, Jan, but that is not defamation, since it is the truth.

On 09 Apr 2004 03:05:12 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan) wrote:

Note this !:

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Rules are rules and have nothing whatsoever to do with any little
plot the *gang* may have.

One of the rules of scientific medicine is, that all methods and
medicaments must be proven. Please note, that Jan Drew is heftily
fighting against proofs.

What is the reason of a proof of a medicament or a healing method ?
The reason is that if there are 2 medicaments a patient should be
given the better one; if there are 2 healing methods a patient should
be given the better one. Why should a patient be given a bad method if
he can have a good one !?

But Jan Drew is against that. Jan Drew fights against proofs. Why ?
Because Jan Drew is an advertizing agency for the naturopath mafia.
This mafia sells junk, rips off ill people, risks their life and walks
over their bodies.

Postings by Jan Drew :

http://www.geocities.com/naturopathicmafia/Quackery.html

If Jan Drew sees a liar, it is himself, in that very mirror...

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
--
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§ Strafanzeigen gegen MLM-er §

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amaadmin.htm

(Jan) said:

Mark does not have the right to sent posts that are sent here to another
newsgroup.

That is a blatant lie.

One of the many lies by Jan Drew, the liar. See here :

http://www.geocities.com/naturopathicmafia/Quackery.html

If Jan Drew sees a liar, it is himself, in that very mirror...

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
--
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§ Strafanzeigen gegen MLM-er §

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amaadmin.htm

Rich.@. said:

He did not send your post anywhere. You did. If you want to be able to
send your posts here then get a newsreader that allows you to do it.

Well, dear Mr. Rich, Jan Drew so often starts a thread with "Re:".
Obviously Jan Drew does something very strange... If Jan Drew knows
how to do that, Jan Drew is of course knowledgeable of how to send a
posting to a certain newsgroup.

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And if you respond to this post it will go to alt.test.

You are too soft... ;O)

Regards,

Aribert Deckers
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§ Strafanzeigen gegen MLM-er §

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amaadmin.htm

No because he spams the same [censored] over and over again to this ng.
Anth

"I Dream of Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(Jan) said:

Sent to [email hidden]

I think that we should all write sonic.net and inform them that Jan is
a troublemaker and that Mark is performing a valuable public service.

I have already e-mailed them.

Aloha,
Rich

I second the motion & as Always, I _AM_ Unanimous in that!