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  1. Robin King said:

    "Gandalf Parker" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
    | "Robin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:Yrj%e.346371

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    | > A philosophy you don't see much nowadays...
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    Sounds interesting but its in a doc file

    Gandalf Parker

    Here's the article:
    -------------------------------------

    Do We Really Need to Exercise and
    Eat Low Fat To Get Into Heaven?
    Jonathan I Robison PhD, MS
    Healthy Weight Journal, Sept/Oct 2000:74-75

    Health is much more than the absence of disease or behavioral risk
    factors for disease. We need to shift towards a more holistic
    conception of what it means to be healthy, taking into consideration
    the social, emotional and spiritual as well as the physical aspects of
    the human experience.

    Our culture's at times almost religious fervor regarding the
    importance of weight and exercise to health is making this difficult.
    Can we truly say that someone is not "healthy" because they choose not
    to exercise and eat less than 30 percent of their calories from fat?
    Is a person with anorexia nervosa who eats virtually no fat and
    exercises constantly healthy? How about someone who hates their job,
    is in a failing relationship and abuses their children? Is he healthy
    if he works out at the gym 5 days a week and has a body mass index of
    less than 25?

    Fat And Fit
    The latest research on the relationship between fitness, weight and
    health is good news for the 55% of U.S. adults now classified as
    overweight and/or obese by the latest "downsized" national weight
    guidelines. It turns out that when physical fitness is controlled
    for, weight has little if any bearing on longevity. Fat, fit people
    actually live longer than their thinner, unfit counterparts.1

    So what about all those studies that suggest that fat people die
    young? One of the problems is that none of them take physical
    activity into account. Epidemiologists call this a "confounding"
    factor. Just because there is a relationship (or correlation) between
    weight and mortality, it does not necessarily follow that one causes
    the other. As an example, there is a relationship between baldness and
    heart disease. Bald men actually have an elevated risk of heart
    disease. This does not mean however that you can lower their risk by
    giving them a hair transplant! Baldness does not directly cause the
    increased risk. It is actually a higher level of testosterone in bald
    men that leads to hair loss and also to an elevated risk for heart
    attack.

    Although some studies have suggested early mortality for larger
    individuals, none of these studies considered the potential
    "confounding" effects of exercise. More recent research shows that,
    when this is done properly, weight has little if any bearing on
    longevity. As Steven Blair, one of the world's most respected
    researchers in the area of fitness and health says, "the kinds of
    diseases we see in overweight people are the same diseases we see in
    sedentary and unfit people of all sizes." 2

    Health and Morality
    Armed with this new information, some health experts have adopted a
    new approach to the issue of weight and health. This new approach is
    succinctly stated in a recent article in the New York Daily News
    entitled: "As long as you're fit, it's probably OK to go on living
    large." (3) While the intent of this article and statements like it
    may be positive, on closer inspection there are some real problems.

    To begin with, what about larger people who choose not to exercise? Is
    it still "OK" for them to "go on living large"? For that matter, what
    about people of any size who choose not to exercise? Do they still
    deserve our respect as worthwhile human beings? This is more than just
    a matter of semantics. The pursuit of fitness has now become a moral
    issue in this country. Added to our obsession with thinness and the
    constant pressure to eat the "right foods" this can only serve to
    increase the prevalence of dangerous dieting practices, body hatred
    and eating disorders.

    Furthermore, this incessant focus on diet and physical fitness as the
    principle determinants of health is misleading and keeps people from
    addressing other areas of their lives that may have more impact on
    their overall well being. In one of the largest studies of
    centenarians (people who live 100 years) being conducted at The
    Harvard Medical School, one of the major findings is that:

    "No pattern of diet or exercise appears among the centenarians; some
    are vegetarians, some eat lots of red meat; some are athletes and some
    do nothing strenuous." 4

    Centenarians are rarely obese, never morbidly obese.

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    Finally, for those people in the helping professions this "diet +
    exercise = health" approach will perpetuate a common misunderstanding
    of what our work is really about. We will continue to focus on trying
    to "motivate" (convince, persuade, cajole) people to change their
    behavior as the misguided mainstay of our profession. Instead of
    "getting people to lose weight" we will now shift our emphasis to
    "getting people to exercise." This will continue to distract us from
    what the real work of "bringing people together as citizens and
    community members to decide for themselves the kinds of lives they
    think are most worth living" 5 at the cost of a continued lack of
    effectiveness and diminished credibility as a profession.

    Future Directions
    While it makes sense for people of all sizes to find ways of moving
    their bodies that are enjoyable and fulfilling, neither weight nor
    fitness are the most telling predictors of the quality of human life.
    In our fast-paced, stress-filled culture it is perhaps an easy place
    to put our efforts - easier than working on relationships or community
    building or spiritual awakening. In the long run, however, this
    myopic focus on physical health will only serve to trivialize the
    complexity and wonder of our human existence.

    Our bodies, our fitness and our food should not be our paramount
    concerns. They have nothing to do with ethics, or relationships, or
    community involvements, or with the human soul or spirit. They have
    nothing to say about the meaning or purpose of life.They give us no
    purpose beyond ourselves. It is a religion appropriate only for a
    people whose ideals do not extend beyond their own physical well-being
    and whose vision of the future-and of the past-is strangely empty.
    Surely Americans can produce a worthier creed. 6

    We can do better! Taking the emphasis off people's weight as a primary
    determinant of their worth or their health is a good beginning. Let us
    not make the mistake of simply replacing weight with another narrowly
    defined criterion, but rather seize the opportunity to explore a more
    all-embracing understanding of what it means to be healthy.

    Instead of focusing on the control of behavioral symptoms in an
    attempt to avoid death and disease, we can redirect our energies
    towards helping people understand and heal the life issues that almost
    inevitably underlie their behavioral struggles and illnesses. We can
    begin this process by redefining health. Rather than the absence of
    disease or the creation of the perfect body or the accumulation of
    some ideal list of "healthy" behaviors perhaps we will see that:

    Health can be redefined as the manner in which we live well despite
    our inescapable illnesses, disabilities and trauma.Health (whatever
    else it might be) is something that happens not so much in the absence
    of illness as in its presence. 7

    It is more than likely that we will all struggle with emotional,
    spiritual and physical issues during our lifetime and it is inevitable
    that we will die. Understanding and living skillfully and
    compassionately with these inevitable struggles, rather than
    perpetually searching for the latest "holy grail" of "optimal health"
    , may come closer to what it truly means to be healthy.

    References
    1. Barlow CE, Kohl HW, Gibbons LW, Blair SN. Physical fitness,
    mortality and obesity. International Journal of Obesity 1995; 19
    (supp.4): S41-S44.
    2. Fraser, L. Who's The Healthiest of Them All? Health Magazine
    1996;May/June:80
    3. Ferrara S. As long as you're fit, it's probably OK to go on living
    large. New York Daily News. Published 1/25/2000 San Jose Mercury
    News.
    4. New York Times, Tuesday June 1, 1999
    5. Buchanan D. An Ethic For Health Promotion: Rethinking The Sources
    Of Human Well-Being. New York: Oxford University Press, 2000.
    6. Seid RP. Never Too Thin: Why Women are At War With Their Bodies.
    New York: Prentice Hall, 1989.
    7. Morris, David. Illness and health in the postmodern age. Advances
    in Mind-Body Medicine 1998;14:237-251.

    There is only one peer-reviewed study in the referenced material (#1)
    and a newer and more thorough study shows that unfit thin women have a
    lower mortality rate than fat and allegedly fit women (Am J Epidemiol
    2002 Nov 1;156(9):832-41).

    If you spent half the time exercising as you do trying to rationalize
    your laziness and gluttony, you would be in pretty good shape.

  2. University student kicks fatass in fat ass - judge lets him off!!

    Rutgers (AP). 2005-09-30 10:04:59 AM BerkExpress@Coffee4U. In a move
    that has drawn angry protests from fat activists on campus a California
    judge has handed down a fine of a mere 50 hours community service to a
    UCLA student accused of kicking an obese woman in the rear. The
    woman's lawyer had been seeking a stiffer sentence including jail time
    and punitive damages. In handing down the sentence the judge cited a
    number of 'mitigating factors' leading to the incident. The student, on
    his way to a mid-term examination, was apparently attempting to walk
    his bicycle out of his apartment building when he encountered the
    defendant, who has been described as 'morbidly obese', in the hall
    ahead of ahead of him.

    The student politely and repeatedly asked the woman to step aside so
    that he could pass. However, according to witnesses instead of moving
    to one side the woman moved to the middle of the hall and deliberately
    slowed her pace preventing the student from leaving the building.
    Frustrated and fearful of being late the student took matters into his
    own hands and kicked the woman in the rear at least once, possibly
    more. Charges were filed later that day. According to neighbours the
    obese woman has had a long history of run-ins with fellow tenants, has
    been the subject of numerous complaints over the years and had an
    'established record' of filing frivolous law suits against fellow
    tenants.

    (Ed.'s note: How fat was this woman anyway to block an entire hall!
    Sheesh)

    .....and remember...I'm not making any of this up....

    Kicks fat woman in butt - not assault judge rules - a perspective by
    Julian
    Subject: Kicks fat woman in butt - not assault judge rules - a
    perspective by Julian

    Ever had one of those days? Steve C did! A California justice has just
    fined Steve 50 hours community service for giving an obese woman who
    absolutely refused to get out of his way a well-deserved kick in the
    ass.

    Let's face it, we've all seen them - massive land-whales lumbering down
    the boardwalk, sweat stains the size of diner plates under each armpit,
    clutching a well packed ice-cream cone or mega-gulp in one hand and a
    drenched towel in the other.

    Like their mud-bathing cousins the hippopotami, the California
    land-whale travels in pods usually taking up an entire sidewalk. Ever
    notice what happens when you try to go around them? They immediately
    spread out and slow down as if to say to the world "hey look - not only
    I'm I fat but I sweat too".

    In this case Steve, our man of the hour, late for a mid-term was trying
    to leave his apartment complex. The land-whale was in the hall ahead of
    him. According to witnesses he politely asked this woman to step aside
    so he could walk his bike out. What did lardo do? Lardo moved to the
    centre of the hall and slowed down. Lardo was so huge that Stevo
    couldn't get his bike past her. Yes, my gentle readers this woman was
    so obese that standing in the middle of the hall of an apartment
    building our friend couldn't get past her!

    Steve did the only thing he could do, the one thing that all Red
    Blooded Americans have done since the beginning of our Great Land :
    STEVE KICKED ASS (literally).

    Fatty called the cops who declined to press charges, so fatty got a
    lawyer and tried to file charges against Stevo. The judge didn't agree
    with fatty and only fined Stevo 50 hours of community service.

    American law is set on Precedent rather than Act - one wonders what
    truly is the precedent here? Is there such a thing as justifiable
    assault or were the lard-butt obstructist actions by this obese woman a
    form or assault to begin with. Maybe she started it and he was just
    fighting back.....food for thought.

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