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  1. Hi guys I am new to the road bike scene and have a problem turning. My shoes
    hit the front tyres when I turn fairly sharply. Am I turning too much? I am
    used to riding a mountain bike.

    Thanks.

  2. "Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi guys I am new to the road bike scene and have a problem turning. My
    shoes hit the front tyres when I turn fairly sharply. Am I turning too
    much? I am used to riding a mountain bike.

    Thanks.

    It's very unusual to be able to turn the front wheel enough for toe overlap
    to be an issue at normal riding speeds. My toes will touch my front wheel if
    I turn it far enough, but if I tried to turn it that far while riding
    normally I'd crash the bike, and NOT because of the wheel touching my toe 🙂
    Photos may be useful in letting us see how you're doing this.

  3. What are your measurements and your bikes measurements? Sounds like it may be too small.

    OR, you could have your cleats too far back on your shoes,

    Have you had a proper bike-fit?

  4. On 2005-09-27, Jono L (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:

    Have you had a proper bikefight?

    This concept amuses me.

    While watching the row-bike video just posted, I was imagining that
    you could have bike fights with them. Mmmm, bike jousting. I would
    really suck to get one of the big lever things right in your noggin.

    --
    TimC
    When the revolution comes, we'll need a longer wall. -- Tom De Mulder

  5. "Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi guys I am new to the road bike scene and have a problem turning. My


    shoes

    Quoted message said:

    hit the front tyres when I turn fairly sharply. Am I turning too much? I


    am

    Quoted message said:

    used to riding a mountain bike.

    Thanks.

    I have had this problem (due mainly to size 14 feet) but only at really low
    speeds or when attempting to track-stand at traffic lights. It has never
    actually caused me to fall off but there have been a couple of near calls!!

    If you managed to hit the front wheel with your foot at any sort of speed
    then I would imagine that you would be in the process of crashing anyway.

    Ride On,

    Gags

  6. "Jono L" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    What are your measurements and your bikes measurements? Sounds like it
    may be too small.

    OR, you could have your cleats too far back on your shoes,

    Have you had a proper bike-fit?

    --
    Jono L

    When I tried out the bike at the shop, I was put on a trainer to see how it
    fit when I was pedaling, I also was allowed to ride the bike outside and I
    don't remember having this tyre/shoe rub problem. However the bike had
    standard pedals on for the test ide (ie no cleat shoes).

    I have adjusted the cleats forward and will try it out tomorrow. Also the
    problem seemed to exist at low speed when manouvering out of my drive way
    etc.

    Hopefuly I haven't been sold a bike that is too small.

  7. On 2005-09-27, Gags (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:

    "Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi guys I am new to the road bike scene and have a problem turning. My


    shoes

    Quoted message said:

    hit the front tyres when I turn fairly sharply. Am I turning too much? I


    am

    Quoted message said:

    used to riding a mountain bike.

    I have had this problem (due mainly to size 14 feet) but only at really low
    speeds or when attempting to track-stand at traffic lights. It has never
    actually caused me to fall off but there have been a couple of near calls!!

    Did you see me on Sunday getting stuck in my front wheel a few times
    when attempting to track stand?

    --
    TimC
    An Emacs reference mug is what I want. It would hold ten gallons of coffee.
    -- Steve VanDevender

  8. I'm new to road bikes too & I gotta say I've hit the back of the front tyre with my foot in the cleat.
    Only real slow / just getting going speeds though.

  9. TimC said:

    On 2005-09-27, Jono L (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:

    Have you had a proper bikefight?

    This concept amuses me.

    While watching the row-bike video just posted, I was imagining that
    you could have bike fights with them. Mmmm, bike jousting. I would
    really suck to get one of the big lever things right in your noggin.

    --
    TimC
    When the revolution comes, we'll need a longer wall. -- Tom De Mulder


    Deleted😄 , my what are you talking about🙄 ?

  10. "Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi guys I am new to the road bike scene and have a problem turning. My
    shoes hit the front tyres when I turn fairly sharply. Am I turning too
    much? I am used to riding a mountain bike.

    Thanks.

    It's normal to have some toe overlap on a roadbike if you are doing a really
    tight u-turn. It's just because of the short wheelbase and tight steering
    head angle. You just have to adjust your pedalling a bit to it so it doesn't
    hit. You can do that by stopping pedalling, or making sure you are pushing
    down on the opposite pedal when you turn hardest, or just flick the wheel in
    a bit as the offending foot gets close.

    That one's easy, but I've yet to try the advanced crit cornering technique
    of pedalling through corners with the bike cranked right over and lifting up
    the bike very briefly so the pedal doesn't dig in. I do have private
    hospital cover now though, so maybe it's time 🙂

    Adam

  11. On 2005-09-27, Jono L (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:


    TimC said:

    On 2005-09-27, Jono L (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:

    Have you had a proper bikefight?

    This concept amuses me.

    While watching the row-bike video just posted, I was imagining that
    you could have bike fights with them. Mmmm, bike jousting. I would
    really suck to get one of the big lever things right in your noggin.


    Deleted😄 , my what are you talking about🙄 ?

    Nothing can be deleted from teh UNSENET. Your mispleeing (and the
    subsequent correction) is going to be there forever.

    --
    TimC
    SIGTHTBABW: a signal sent from Unix to its programmers at random
    intervals to make them remember that There Has To Be A Better Way.

  12. Mark said:

    "Jono L" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What are your measurements and your bikes measurements? Sounds like it
    may be too small.

    OR, you could have your cleats too far back on your shoes,

    Have you had a proper bike-fit?

    --
    Jono L

    When I tried out the bike at the shop, I was put on a trainer to see how it
    fit when I was pedaling, I also was allowed to ride the bike outside and I
    don't remember having this tyre/shoe rub problem. However the bike had
    standard pedals on for the test ide (ie no cleat shoes).

    I have adjusted the cleats forward and will try it out tomorrow. Also the
    problem seemed to exist at low speed when manouvering out of my drive way
    etc.

    Hopefuly I haven't been sold a bike that is too small.

    It doesn't mean necessarily the bike's too small. How tall are you?

    Some frames around the 53cm mark (depending on how they measure it) are
    getting small enough that overlap is an issue.

    If the bike fits you then overlap is just a fact of life, unless you go
    to 650c wheels. One of my bikes has a tiny bit of overlap but it's
    unlikely most of the time and I just got used to it. Most of the time
    you won't be steering that tight. When you are, just be careful
    pedalling and you'll get used to it eventually.

    Or, get a bigger frame, or shorter cranks 🙂

    --
    Nick

  13. Resound said:


    It's very unusual to be able to turn the front wheel enough for toe overlap
    to be an issue at normal riding speeds. My toes will touch my front wheel if
    I turn it far enough, but if I tried to turn it that far while riding
    normally I'd crash the bike, and NOT because of the wheel touching my toe 🙂
    Photos may be useful in letting us see how you're doing this.

    The Cannondale T2000 tourer has the toe front wheel overlap problem, but that is fairly well known amongst people that use them. I was coming down the tourist road from Mt dandenong a few weeks ago and was watch the cannondale in front of me and his front wheel was turning very little during, most of the turning appeared to be done by leaning into the corner.

    Its only a problem at low speeds and don't think that it is only your bike that does it, there are heaps out there that do the same thing.

  14. Mark said:

    "Jono L" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    What are your measurements and your bikes measurements? Sounds like it
    may be too small.

    OR, you could have your cleats too far back on your shoes,

    Have you had a proper bike-fit?

    --
    Jono L

    When I tried out the bike at the shop, I was put on a trainer to see how it
    fit when I was pedaling, I also was allowed to ride the bike outside and I
    don't remember having this tyre/shoe rub problem. However the bike had
    standard pedals on for the test ide (ie no cleat shoes).

    Put the cleat back where it was. Overlap is *not* a
    problem. It only matters at all at very low speeds, the
    rest of the time you're countersteering through corners
    anyway. I don't think there's a roadbike out there that
    doesn't overlap?

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