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  1. A few weeks back I noticed that my knee was hurting a bit as I biked
    along but it went away. The next day it hurt just when I was starting
    out on my commute but it went away fairly soon as I biked along. But
    the next day it just hurt all the time so I didn't bike. I think that
    it actually all began when I jumped off a surfboard in shallow water
    but that's just a guess.

    It doesn't hurt if I just walk but straightening up from a bend was
    painful. Whatever is wrong, getting up hurts it.

    So I went a week without biking and the pain got much better, but
    still hurt a bit. Now it's the end of the second week of not biking
    and I tried it this morning and after a few blocks felt it again and
    turned back.

    Very depressing. Any suggestions on what to do? It has gotten much
    better by just not biking but it does not seem to go completely away.
    Leave it alone another week?

  2. See your doctor -- there's lots that can be done. I have
    osteoarthritis and and I get tweaked every few years. Last year I got a
    nice shot of cortisone and peruvian pink (medical name is lidocaine) and
    it's been pretty good. You may have that or any of dozens of other
    joint problems. pays to get it looked at.

    --ag

    dgk <[email hidden]> wrote in news:ugv7j19tlp5v0r6g27tmaessc9179m0kit@
    4ax.com:

    Quoted message said:

    A few weeks back I noticed that my knee was hurting a bit as I biked
    along but it went away. The next day it hurt just when I was starting
    out on my commute but it went away fairly soon as I biked along. But
    the next day it just hurt all the time so I didn't bike. I think that
    it actually all began when I jumped off a surfboard in shallow water
    but that's just a guess.

    It doesn't hurt if I just walk but straightening up from a bend was
    painful. Whatever is wrong, getting up hurts it.

    So I went a week without biking and the pain got much better, but
    still hurt a bit. Now it's the end of the second week of not biking
    and I tried it this morning and after a few blocks felt it again and
    turned back.

    Very depressing. Any suggestions on what to do? It has gotten much
    better by just not biking but it does not seem to go completely away.
    Leave it alone another week?

  3. "dgk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Very depressing. Any suggestions on what to do? It has gotten much
    better by just not biking but it does not seem to go completely away.
    Leave it alone another week?

    Have you changed *anything* about your bike and/or biking habits/style?

    Cheers, helen s

  4. This is likely to be patellar chondromalacia if the pain is the
    cartilidge under the kneecap and not in the muscles or tendons
    surrounding the knee. This is caused by uneven development of one of
    the mucles connected to the kneecap. This pulls the kneecap out of
    alignment with the cartilidge lined groove of the femur resulting in
    inflammation and pain. For cyclists the overdeveloped muscle is the
    innermost vastus medialis oblique (VMO).

    I have had this problem for two years now. It started in my dominant
    right leg and got to the point that it was painful to walk up/down
    stairs and put on shoes. My remedy for this was to wrap an ace bandage
    directly under the knee in such a way that the kneecap is pushed up and
    can't ride on the inflamed parts of the knee joint. It helps if you
    learn to stop tensing the VMO during the power phase of each pedal
    stroke. I also changed my technique for starting the bike from a stop.
    I now get into the saddle quickly before the first downstroke so that I
    can better regulate the amount of force applied to the knee. I worked
    on training my left leg to take on a more equitable share of the work.
    You will have to make sure that the gearing is low enough that you
    don't have to use a lot of force in the downstroke. You will have to
    become a spinner if you are a masher. Clipless pedals can help if you
    don't already use them since they allow you to spread out the power
    phase along the bottom of the stroke, reducing the maximum load on the
    knee. You can also pull up with clipless pedals and although that isn't
    sustainable over the long haul it can help you limp home if your knee
    is in too much pain to push on the pedal. In my case the pain would be
    aggravated whenever I hammered near the peak of my capacity. Without
    care, a weeks worth of healing could be undone in a single ride. You
    need to have the discipline to ride below your capacity most of the
    time. My biggest problem is that I heal to the point that I loose the
    feedback from a pain response and go out and ride too hard, causing a
    setback.

    The best way to let things heal is to not ride at all for extended
    periods. I gave up commuting for a few months and limited myself to one
    ride a week during the winter. I found the weekly ride was sufficient
    to maintain conditioning such that I didn't have to work hard to
    restore capacity in the spring.

    My knee has improved to the point that I can use the knee straps
    designed for this purpose rather than the ace bandage. My left knee
    started showing the early signs of pain this year so now I use the
    straps on both knees. They are both in much better condition. While I
    am not pain free, I can climb stairs without much trouble and putting
    on shoes is not excruciating.

    For the longer term, it helps to work on developing the outer vastus
    lateralis by performing leg lifts that target those muscles. A sports
    medecine therapist can give the best guidance in this matter. There is
    a fair amount of information on this problem on the web. Some exercises
    are shown here http://www.orthoseek.com/articles/chondromp.html.

  5. On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:13:30 +0100, "wafflycat"

    waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk said:


    "dgk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Very depressing. Any suggestions on what to do? It has gotten much
    better by just not biking but it does not seem to go completely away.
    Leave it alone another week?

    Have you changed *anything* about your bike and/or biking habits/style?

    Cheers, helen s

    No, that would be too easy.

  6. "dgk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:13:30 +0100, "wafflycat"

    waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk said:


    "dgk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Very depressing. Any suggestions on what to do? It has gotten much
    better by just not biking but it does not seem to go completely away.
    Leave it alone another week?

    Have you changed *anything* about your bike and/or biking habits/style?

    Cheers, helen s

    No, that would be too easy.

    Get yourself to a doc for a proper check over then 🙂

    Cheers, helen s

  7. You neglected to say WHERE your knee pain is. I had lateral knee pain from
    some cleats that were turned in too much. I rode on it anyway until I was in
    a bit of pain. The doc injected it with Synvisc and that calmed things down.
    I changed the cleats and everything is fine. Your twisting it jumping off
    the surfboard may have started the inflammation and the bike riding just
    keeps the inflammation going. Go see the doc.

    Pat in TX

  8. dgk said:

    Any suggestions on what to do?

    SEE YOUR DOCTOR. duh.

  9. "dgk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A few weeks back I noticed that my knee was hurting a bit as I biked
    along but it went away. The next day it hurt just when I was starting
    out on my commute but it went away fairly soon as I biked along. But
    the next day it just hurt all the time so I didn't bike. I think that
    it actually all began when I jumped off a surfboard in shallow water
    but that's just a guess.

    It doesn't hurt if I just walk but straightening up from a bend was
    painful. Whatever is wrong, getting up hurts it.

    So I went a week without biking and the pain got much better, but
    still hurt a bit. Now it's the end of the second week of not biking
    and I tried it this morning and after a few blocks felt it again and
    turned back.

    Very depressing. Any suggestions on what to do? It has gotten much
    better by just not biking but it does not seem to go completely away.
    Leave it alone another week?

    The problem is that once one thing gets off in your knee, it can lead to
    other problems as your body unconsciously adjust to the pain. The problem
    is that it can lead to chronic pain. I have now been unable to bike for
    the last 1.5 years and have been working hard on rehabbing my knee.

    Advise... do not take pain lightly as it is an indication that something is
    wrong. First thing is to find someone who is a professional fitter and make
    sure your bike is adjusted right. To find a good fitter, just post where
    you live. The second thing is to get into the doctor right away and make
    sure the knee is sound. Next, make an appointment with a Physical
    Therapist to learn the correct exercises and stretches to alleviate your
    problem.

    Do it before it is too late.

    Good luck!

  10. I too am experiencing knee pain read that a low saddle can cause knee pain
    Am getting new 350mm seatpost to see if raising the saddle and changing
    angle alleviates knee pain

    bo ku

    On 9/26/05 11:56 PM, in article
    [email hidden], "Dan Williams"

    Quoted message said:


    "dgk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]... A few weeks back I noticed
    that my knee was hurting a bit as I biked along but it went away. The next day
    it hurt just when I was starting out on my commute but it went away fairly
    soon as I biked along. But the next day it just hurt all the time so I didn't
    bike. I think that it actually all began when I jumped off a surfboard in
    shallow water but that's just a guess.

    Quoted message said:

    It doesn't hurt if I just walk but straightening up from a bend was painful.
    Whatever is wrong, getting up hurts it.

    So I went a week without biking and the pain got much better, but still hurt
    a bit. Now it's the end of the second week of not biking and I tried it this
    morning and after a few blocks felt it again and turned back.

    Very depressing. Any suggestions on what to do? It has gotten much better by
    just not biking but it does not seem to go completely away. Leave it alone
    another week?


    The problem is that once one thing gets off in your knee, it can lead to other
    problems as your body unconsciously adjust to the pain. The problem is that
    it can lead to chronic pain. I have now been unable to bike for the last 1.5
    years and have been working hard on rehabbing my knee.

    Advise... do not take pain lightly as it is an indication that something is
    wrong. First thing is to find someone who is a professional fitter and make
    sure your bike is adjusted right. To find a good fitter, just post where you
    live. The second thing is to get into the doctor right away and make sure
    the knee is sound. Next, make an appointment with a Physical Therapist to
    learn the correct exercises and stretches to alleviate your problem.

    Do it before it is too late.

    Good luck!

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