Gaiter Reccomendations

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Need something to stop the bog on Kinder coming over my boots on winter
walks. Any recommendations?

Frost ?-)

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Boots = Scarpa Peak GTX

A pair of Yeti gaiters.

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Dominic Sexton

Thanks.

Heard Yeti type not that good on flexible boots though?

Jon

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In article <[email hidden]>, JRS
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Need something to stop the bog on Kinder coming over my boots on winter
walks. Any recommendations?

Frost ?-)

Quoted message said:

Boots = Scarpa Peak GTX

A pair of Yeti gaiters.

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Dominic Sexton

Yetis? I thought they only fitted Scarpa boots! Many years ago (1990) They
'aint worth the money IMHO

Craven

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Thanks.

Heard Yeti type not that good on flexible boots though?

Jon

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In article <[email hidden]>, JRS
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Need something to stop the bog on Kinder coming over my boots on winter
walks. Any recommendations?

Frost ?-)

Quoted message said:

Boots = Scarpa Peak GTX

A pair of Yeti gaiters.

--

Dominic Sexton

My mates bought some in around 1980 as we were all into gear. they were top
of range then (in purple i think) but we all had non bendy Scarpa Bronzo's
etc in them days.

Jon

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Yetis? I thought they only fitted Scarpa boots! Many years ago (1990) They
'aint worth the money IMHO

Craven

"JRS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Thanks.

Heard Yeti type not that good on flexible boots though?

Jon

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In article <[email hidden]>, JRS
<[email hidden]> writes
>Need something to stop the bog on Kinder coming over my boots on winter
>walks. Any recommendations?

Frost ?-)

>
>Boots = Scarpa Peak GTX

A pair of Yeti gaiters.

--

Dominic Sexton

In article <[email hidden]>, JRS
<[email hidden]> writes

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Thanks.

Heard Yeti type not that good on flexible boots though?

That can be a problem. It depends just how flexible the boot is and how
well the rand of the Yeti fits the rand of the boot.

If you are intending to leave them on the boots for a while (most of the
winter) you can stick them on round the edge of the sole with spots of
glue. That is often enough to hold them in place but not so much that
you can't peel them off when you need to.

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Dominic Sexton

In article <[email hidden]>, Craven
<[email hidden]> writes

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Yetis? I thought they only fitted Scarpa boots!

No, there was a specific model aimed at the Scarpa Attak which had a
ridge to fit round the edge of the sole and an extra strap the fitted
into a groove under the fore-foot. Even they could be used with other
boots if you cut the extra strap off.

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Many years ago (1990) They
'aint worth the money IMHO

Well they are very expensive but work very well if they fit your boots
well.

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Dominic Sexton

Dominic Sexton said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Craven
<[email hidden]> writes

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Yetis? I thought they only fitted Scarpa boots!

No, there was a specific model aimed at the Scarpa Attak which had a
ridge to fit round the edge of the sole and an extra strap the
fitted into a groove under the fore-foot. Even they could be used
with other boots if you cut the extra strap off.

I had a pair of Scarpa Asolo with the Attack sole and the Yetis worked
great with them When they wore out I got a pair of Zamberlins, which I
hate, and I found that threading the front strap through the grip on the
sole made them stay on better. The only problem I had was the yetis were
size 8 and the boots were size 9 so the toe of the Yetis kept creeping
up,other than that they were fine. If the Yetis are the same size as the
boot and you can thread the front strap through the grip on the sole then
they should stay put without the glue, the only thing I can think that may
make a difference is if the toe of the boot is too shallow for the toe of
the Yeti to grip.

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Them where the days Bronzo's best boot ITW. Still got 'em;-)
Craven
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My mates bought some in around 1980 as we were all into gear. they were
top of range then (in purple i think) but we all had non bendy Scarpa
Bronzo's etc in them days.

Jon

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Yetis? I thought they only fitted Scarpa boots! Many years ago (1990)
They 'aint worth the money IMHO

Craven

"JRS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Thanks.

Heard Yeti type not that good on flexible boots though?

Jon

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> In article <[email hidden]>, JRS
> <[email hidden]> writes
>>Need something to stop the bog on Kinder coming over my boots on winter
>>walks. Any recommendations?
>
> Frost ?-)
>
>>
>>Boots = Scarpa Peak GTX
>
> A pair of Yeti gaiters.
>
> --
>
> Dominic Sexton

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In article <[email hidden]>, Craven
<[email hidden]> writes

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Yetis? I thought they only fitted Scarpa boots!

No, there was a specific model aimed at the Scarpa Attak which had a ridge
to fit round the edge of the sole and an extra strap the fitted into a
groove under the fore-foot. Even they could be used with other boots if
you cut the extra strap off.

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Many years ago (1990) They
'aint worth the money IMHO

Well they are very expensive but work very well if they fit your boots
well.

Yep, remember that! Geting old, still a load of Cr*p. Just a selling ploy
for idiots to buy gear:-0

Walking is Walking. Most plebs nowadays don't realise they are just playing
at it, with their MODERN Gear :-0

Bye

Craven

Craven said:

Yetis? I thought they only fitted Scarpa boots! Many years ago (1990) They
'aint worth the money IMHO

They fit anything you can get them on. The original Trionic Yeti was
designed to mate specifically with a Scarpa Trionic boot, but there were
other models and in any case you could get Trionic Ys onto other things.
I was rather annoyed that an old pair stayed on my Alico telemark
boots much better than a pair of rigid Trionic Fitzroys...

As to are they worth it, that depends. I bought my first pair in the
wake of all the stitching on a pair of boots getting comprehensively
rotted while I spent a fortnight standing in peat bogs making geological
maps, and decided I wanted something a bit more outside-proof. The
Fitzroys and attendant Yetis were bought together with exactly this in
mind. Though the original Yetis are long gone the boots are still in
very good order, and they've done a lot of wet snow and acidic peat bogs
in the ~18 years I've had them. I've seen a lot of boots without
protection for the uppers go to the scrap heap in that time, so although
the gaiters are expensive my experience suggests that in places that
aren't good for leather like snow and peat bogs they're a Real Win. For
winter use on leather boots I prefer to have them than not. On plastics
they seem a bit ridiculous, mind.

Note that "Yeti" is a Berghaus name, but they're not the only people
making overgaiters. Extremities certainly do an alternative.

Pete.
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Craven said:

Yep, remember that! Geting old, still a load of Cr*p. Just a selling ploy
for idiots to buy gear:-0

Walking is Walking. Most plebs nowadays don't realise they are just playing
at it, with their MODERN Gear :-0

You seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that Scarpa Bronzos
do not incorporate any technology that hasn't been around for at least
100 years. Not so...

I normally walk in sandals that cost less in today's money than Bronzos
did back in the mid 80s with mid 80s money. Why do you need such big,
expensive boots? ;-)

Pete.
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Need something to stop the bog on Kinder coming over my boots on winter
walks. Any recommendations?

Boots = Scarpa Peak GTX

Thanks

Jon

One to keep away from is Trek Mates. I bought the Goretex front fastening
version, but after only 6 Munros, one the the studs in front broke, since -
and only 50 Marilyns later, both zips have gone, both studs have now gone
and they're useless apart from the odd low cut grass walks. IMHO, they are
very poorly designed and built.

I hate front fastening. Trek Mates were my first and last. The problem in
if you walk off path and into long grass, or heather, and it's wet, the
water will get in, past the velcro and through the zips much worse then the
rear fastenings. Also, the extra stiffness at the front is off-putting.
But, they are easier to put on.

The last pair I had were Trailwise rear fastenings. They took loads of
abuse and managed at least 50 munros, 150 + Wainwrights, 20 Welsh mountains,
plus many more. Were very water tight and light.

Jhimmy.

Jhimmy said:

I hate front fastening. Trek Mates were my first and last. The problem in
if you walk off path and into long grass, or heather, and it's wet, the
water will get in, past the velcro and through the zips much worse then the
rear fastenings.

I rather like it... I have MH Ventigaiters which have no zip but just a
broad strip of velcro. Sufficiently broad, indeed, that I don't find
anything much works its way through. It also means I can bodge them
over the top of ski boots with clips, though I imagine that's not really
much of a concern for most folks.

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Also, the extra stiffness at the front is off-putting.

Never really noticed that

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But, they are easier to put on.

Much easier to put on, and with the velcro and no zip much easier to get
under to redo your laces etc. without having to remove anything.

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The last pair I had were Trailwise rear fastenings. They took loads of
abuse and managed at least 50 munros, 150 + Wainwrights, 20 Welsh mountains,
plus many more. Were very water tight and light.

I used Tiso/Wildrover canvas ones. Quieter than nylon, last longer and
seem to cope fine in the wet. More breathable than nylon or goretex
too, and very cheap with it. Only reason I stopped using them was they
didn't fit over those ski boots...

Gaiters are one of those things where I find that the bottom of the
market gives superb value, the top of the market can be worth getting in
some instances, but I don't see much point with many/most of the
"in-between" products.

Pete.
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Still got mine too and in great condition. Just a bit heavy for most of the
walking i do now hence the Peaks - they are loads more comfortable.

Jon

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Them where the days Bronzo's best boot ITW. Still got 'em;-)
Craven
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My mates bought some in around 1980 as we were all into gear. they were
top of range then (in purple i think) but we all had non bendy Scarpa
Bronzo's etc in them days.

Jon

"Craven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Yetis? I thought they only fitted Scarpa boots! Many years ago (1990)
They 'aint worth the money IMHO

Craven

"JRS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Thanks.
>
> Heard Yeti type not that good on flexible boots though?
>
> Jon
>
> "Dominic Sexton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> In article <[email hidden]>, JRS
>> <[email hidden]> writes
>>>Need something to stop the bog on Kinder coming over my boots on
>>>winter
>>>walks. Any recommendations?
>>
>> Frost ?-)
>>
>>>
>>>Boots = Scarpa Peak GTX
>>
>> A pair of Yeti gaiters.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Dominic Sexton
>
>

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Gaiters are one of those things where I find that the bottom of the market
gives superb value, the top of the market can be worth getting in some
instances, but I don't see much point with many/most of the "in-between"
products.

Pete.
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Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Actually, my old Trailwise gaiters were cheap - and excellent value. The
Trek Mate were middle range ones and disappointing.

The broad velcro on your MH must spread the load instead of mine which are
about 30mm wide and "dig" into the ankle joint when the foot bends.

Jhimmy

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Jhimmy said:

I >

Gaiters are one of those things where I find that the bottom of the market
gives superb value, the top of the market can be worth getting in some
instances, but I don't see much point with many/most of the "in-between"
products.

Pete.
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http://www.outdoordesigns.co.uk/gait_tundra.html

at around £13 look good to me if cheap can be OK

Jon

JRS said:

at around £13 look good to me if cheap can be OK

I prefer canvas to nylon as they're quieter, more breathable and the PU
coating doesn't degrade over time because there isn't one. But that
aside cheap can certainly be good: it's just a tube of fabric with a
zip, really, nothing high tech needed.

Pete.
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Jhimmy said:

The broad velcro on your MH must spread the load instead of mine which are
about 30mm wide and "dig" into the ankle joint when the foot bends.

Dunno Jhimmy, generally wear them with plastic telemark boots which
would insulate my ankle quite throughly from any such problems. So they
may or may not be better in that respect...

Otherwise if it's a serious bog trot in order I'm more likely to be in
wellies.

Pete.
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the extra stiffness at the front is off-putting.

I thought you were just pleased to see me.

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