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  1. A recipe site I use can translate from cup/spoon measures into grams. I've
    just acquired a digital scale that uses either pounds or grams so I'm
    wondering, should I make the change to gram measures?

    The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights to
    validate that.

    Andy

  2. On Mon 12 Sep 2005 10:40:29a, Andy wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    A recipe site I use can translate from cup/spoon measures into grams. I've
    just acquired a digital scale that uses either pounds or grams so I'm
    wondering, should I make the change to gram measures?

    The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights to
    validate that.

    Andy

    Only if you want to convert all your recipes. Personally, I think it would
    be a royal PITA. If you have or acquire cookbooks or recipes that already
    use metric, then by all means do so.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

  3. In article <[email hidden]>, Andy <q>

    Quoted message said:

    A recipe site I use can translate from cup/spoon measures into grams. I've
    just acquired a digital scale that uses either pounds or grams so I'm
    wondering, should I make the change to gram measures?

    The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights to
    validate that.

    Use whatever system of measure with which you are most comfortable.

  4. Stan Horwitz said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Andy <q>

    Quoted message said:

    A recipe site I use can translate from cup/spoon measures into
    grams. I've just acquired a digital scale that uses either pounds or
    grams so I'm wondering, should I make the change to gram measures?

    The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights to
    validate that.

    Use whatever system of measure with which you are most comfortable.

    I don't get the point of the question.
    If the scale measures in pounds and grams why would you care which system
    you used?
    I assume that the scale will do any weight conversion at the push of a
    button.

    Ken.

  5. Ken Davey said:
    Stan Horwitz said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Andy <q>

    Quoted message said:

    A recipe site I use can translate from cup/spoon measures into
    grams. I've just acquired a digital scale that uses either pounds or
    grams so I'm wondering, should I make the change to gram measures?

    The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights to
    validate that.

    Use whatever system of measure with which you are most comfortable.

    I don't get the point of the question.
    If the scale measures in pounds and grams why would you care which
    system you used?
    I assume that the scale will do any weight conversion at the push of a
    button.

    Ken.

    Weight vs. volume. Just curious and had to ask.

    --
    Andy
    http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

  6. Ken Davey said:


    I don't get the point of the question.
    If the scale measures in pounds and grams why would you care
    which system you used?
    I assume that the scale will do any weight conversion at the
    push of a button.

    I'm reminded of the old joke about cutting up a
    pizza. The punchline is "I don't think I could
    eat eight pieces."

  7. Ken Davey said:


    I don't get the point of the question.
    If the scale measures in pounds and grams why would you care
    which system you used?
    I assume that the scale will do any weight conversion at the
    push of a button.

    I'm reminded of the old joke about cutting up a
    pizza. The punchline is "I don't think I could
    eat eight pieces."

  8. Andy said:

    A recipe site I use can translate from cup/spoon measures into grams. I've
    just acquired a digital scale that uses either pounds or grams so I'm
    wondering, should I make the change to gram measures?

    The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights to
    validate that.

    Andy


    You got water, eh? A fluid oz is 30 grms. A Tablespoon is 15, and a
    teaspoon is 5. So get out those measuring spoons and have at it.

    As for changing recipes to grams, why bother. Use whichever.

    --
    Del Cecchi
    "This post is my own and doesn’t necessarily represent IBM’s positions,
    strategies or opinions.”

  9. Del Cecchi said:
    Quoted message said:

    The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights to
    validate that.

    Andy


    You got water, eh? A fluid oz is 30 grms. A Tablespoon is 15, and a
    teaspoon is 5. So get out those measuring spoons and have at it.

    You have a point there, but your hair conceals it. 😉

    For the sake of argument, If I had a container to hold the water that
    weighed a gram, I wouldn't need water, now would I? You get the idea?

    Andy

    --
    Andy
    http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

  10. Andy said:
    Ken Davey said:
    Stan Horwitz said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Andy <q>
    wrote:

    > A recipe site I use can translate from cup/spoon measures into
    > grams. I've just acquired a digital scale that uses either pounds or
    > grams so I'm wondering, should I make the change to gram measures?
    >
    > The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights to
    > validate that.

    Use whatever system of measure with which you are most comfortable.

    I don't get the point of the question.
    If the scale measures in pounds and grams why would you care which
    system you used?
    I assume that the scale will do any weight conversion at the push of a
    button.

    Ken.

    Weight vs. volume. Just curious and had to ask.

    Huh? No kitchen scale I've ever seen converts to volume.

    Sheldon

  11. Andy said:
    Ken Davey said:
    Stan Horwitz said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Andy <q>
    wrote:

    > A recipe site I use can translate from cup/spoon measures into
    > grams. I've just acquired a digital scale that uses either pounds or
    > grams so I'm wondering, should I make the change to gram measures?
    >
    > The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights to
    > validate that.

    Use whatever system of measure with which you are most comfortable.

    I don't get the point of the question.
    If the scale measures in pounds and grams why would you care which
    system you used?
    I assume that the scale will do any weight conversion at the push of a
    button.

    Ken.

    Weight vs. volume. Just curious and had to ask.

    Huh? No kitchen scale I've ever seen converts to volume.

    Sheldon

  12. Sheldon said:


    Andy said:
    Ken Davey said:

    Stan Horwitz wrote:
    > In article <[email hidden]>, Andy <q>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> A recipe site I use can translate from cup/spoon measures into
    >> grams. I've just acquired a digital scale that uses either pounds


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> grams so I'm wondering, should I make the change to gram


    measures?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>
    >> The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> validate that.
    >
    > Use whatever system of measure with which you are most


    comfortable.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I don't get the point of the question.
    If the scale measures in pounds and grams why would you care which
    system you used?
    I assume that the scale will do any weight conversion at the push


    of a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    button.

    Ken.

    Weight vs. volume. Just curious and had to ask.

    Huh? No kitchen scale I've ever seen converts to volume.

    Sheldon

    DUH?

    Andy

  13. Sheldon said:


    Andy said:
    Ken Davey said:

    Stan Horwitz wrote:
    > In article <[email hidden]>, Andy <q>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> A recipe site I use can translate from cup/spoon measures into
    >> grams. I've just acquired a digital scale that uses either pounds


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> grams so I'm wondering, should I make the change to gram


    measures?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>
    >> The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> validate that.
    >
    > Use whatever system of measure with which you are most


    comfortable.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I don't get the point of the question.
    If the scale measures in pounds and grams why would you care which
    system you used?
    I assume that the scale will do any weight conversion at the push


    of a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    button.

    Ken.

    Weight vs. volume. Just curious and had to ask.

    Huh? No kitchen scale I've ever seen converts to volume.

    Sheldon

    DUH?

    Andy

  14. Andy said:
    Ken Davey said:
    Stan Horwitz said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Andy <q>
    wrote:

    > A recipe site I use can translate from cup/spoon measures into
    > grams. I've just acquired a digital scale that uses either pounds or
    > grams so I'm wondering, should I make the change to gram measures?
    >
    > The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights to
    > validate that.

    Use whatever system of measure with which you are most comfortable.

    I don't get the point of the question.
    If the scale measures in pounds and grams why would you care which
    system you used?
    I assume that the scale will do any weight conversion at the push of a
    button.

    Ken.

    Weight vs. volume. Just curious and had to ask.

    Weight is probably more accuate but unless you are baking
    professionally it probably is not all that importand. That said my old
    copy of Amendola's book on baking gave all measures in lb & oz. No
    volume measures that I can recall. I think I had a pie crust recipe
    that called for 10lb of flour and 3 lb of water.

  15. Andy said:

    A recipe site I use can translate from cup/spoon measures into grams. I've
    just acquired a digital scale that uses either pounds or grams so I'm
    wondering, should I make the change to gram measures?
    The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights to
    validate that.
    Andy

    Between living in Europe for years and studying scientific stuff from
    time to time, I really feel more comfortable with the metric system.
    I made myself a little chart of equivalents and taped it to the inside
    of my cabinet door for ready reference (want a copy?). I find this
    exceedingly handy when changing the quantity of pickle recipes
    mostly. Gawd I hate fractions, so I switch everything to metric
    and math away in peace. I have had to change some items in my
    personal notes like weighing spices in grams instead of the milliliters
    that are teaspoons. My kitchen scale makes it easy too.
    Edrena

  16. jrkrideau said:
    Andy said:
    Ken Davey said:

    Stan Horwitz wrote:
    > In article <[email hidden]>, Andy <q>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> A recipe site I use can translate from cup/spoon measures into
    >> grams. I've just acquired a digital scale that uses either pounds or
    >> grams so I'm wondering, should I make the change to gram measures?
    >>
    >> The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights to
    >> validate that.
    >
    > Use whatever system of measure with which you are most comfortable.

    I don't get the point of the question.
    If the scale measures in pounds and grams why would you care which
    system you used?
    I assume that the scale will do any weight conversion at the push of a
    button.

    Ken.

    Weight vs. volume. Just curious and had to ask.

    Weight is probably more accuate but unless you are baking
    professionally it probably is not all that importand.

    I there box cake boy!

    Those who bake professionally rarely weigh/measure anything, other than
    water their recipes are based on the quantities that ingredients are
    normally available (and they don't like lots a bits and pieces of
    ingredients about so they tend to develop recipes that use the entire
    package). And accuracy is not really as important with baking as most
    folks seem to think, and the larger the recipe the less important
    accuracy becomes... do you really think if a bread or cake recipe calls
    for 100 pounds of flour it matters if you used a pound or two more or
    less... doesn't... in fact of that 100 pounds of flour a professional
    baker will always hold back about 5 pounds, guess why... because
    professional baker's vast experience affords them the ability to judge
    a batch of dough/batter far more accurately by sight, feel, and sound
    then by how carefully measured. In fact a professional baker relies on
    sound above all else, they know precisely when it's time to turn off
    the mixer solely by the sound the dough/batter makes as it slaps the
    sides of the bowl... that's how they can go off to do something else
    while the mixer is running... don't want any stinkin' timer iffn you
    got ears... and they can tell from the sound if some of that held back
    flour is needed, and none is wasted, it becomes bench flour. Compared
    with a professional baker, when you measure it's tantamont to Liberace
    needing written music to give a concert, or Michaelangelo doing the
    Sistine Chapel with paint by numbers. Baking is far, far more an art
    form than it relies on following directions precisely... if you're into
    precision baked goods then Twinkies and Ring Dings are right up your
    alley.

    Sheldon

  17. The Joneses said:
    Andy said:

    A recipe site I use can translate from cup/spoon measures into
    grams. I've just acquired a digital scale that uses either pounds or
    grams so I'm wondering, should I make the change to gram measures?
    The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights to
    validate that.
    Andy

    Between living in Europe for years and studying scientific stuff from
    time to time, I really feel more comfortable with the metric system.
    I made myself a little chart of equivalents and taped it to the inside
    of my cabinet door for ready reference (want a copy?). I find this
    exceedingly handy when changing the quantity of pickle recipes
    mostly. Gawd I hate fractions, so I switch everything to metric
    and math away in peace. I have had to change some items in my
    personal notes like weighing spices in grams instead of the
    milliliters that are teaspoons. My kitchen scale makes it easy too.
    Edrena

    Try this
    http://www.joshmadison.com/software/convert/

    Ken.

  18. "Andy" <q> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Del Cecchi said:
    Quoted message said:

    The scale claims 1 gram resolution although I don't have weights to
    validate that.

    Andy


    You got water, eh? A fluid oz is 30 grms. A Tablespoon is 15, and a
    teaspoon is 5. So get out those measuring spoons and have at it.

    You have a point there, but your hair conceals it. 😉

    For the sake of argument, If I had a container to hold the water that
    weighed a gram, I wouldn't need water, now would I? You get the idea?

    Andy

    --
    Andy
    http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

    Well, andy, you want to measure resolution. So you put a container, any
    old container, on the scale. Get out your crayons and write down the
    number. now add 1 tsp water to the container. Write down the new
    number. Get out your calculator and subtract the first number from the
    second number. The difference should be 5 grams. Now repeat only add
    1/2 teaspoon water. The difference should be 2 or 3 grams.

    Did I type that slowly enough for you to catch on?

    del

  19. "Del Cecchi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    You got water, eh? A fluid oz is 30 grms. A Tablespoon is 15, and a
    teaspoon is 5. So get out those measuring spoons and have at it.

    True for water, but not for flour, sugar, oregano, etc.

  20. "Del Cecchi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Well, andy, you want to measure resolution. So you put a container, any
    old container, on the scale. Get out your crayons and write down the
    number. now add 1 tsp water to the container. Write down the new number.
    Get out your calculator and subtract the first number from the second
    number. The difference should be 5 grams. Now repeat only add 1/2
    teaspoon water. The difference should be 2 or 3 grams.

    Did I type that slowly enough for you to catch on?

    del

    OK for measuring resolution, but still does not answer his original
    question. To accomplish what he wants to do, you have to take density into
    consideration. A cup of bay leaves is not going to weigh the same as a cup
    of water, so you have to determine the specific gravity of bay leaves first.

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