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  1. other than sheldon brown's scribblings which are numerous and informative anyone else have links to
    any good cycle maintenance web sites that have good info, pics, etc

    as i know next to nothing about bike maintenance i think i better start getting a clue! ... the only
    problem with this is once i start i usually go too far!

    example being building my own second computer only a couple of months after buying my first one and
    a few years later moving into the IT trade for work!!

    and whilst i talk of maintenance and the subject of building do many build their own bikes? is it
    the same as the computer world where you can build yourself a better system and specify exactly what
    you want in it but overall it'll end up costing you more than a similair specced mass produced item

    i spose when you look at how many parts actually make up a bike its not so daunting i guess if you
    can start with a bare frame and do the build over a period of time

  2. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doobrie
    [B]other than sheldon brown's scribblings which are numerous and informative anyone else have links to
    any good cycle maintenance web sites that have good info, pics, etc


    Try this:

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20639

    LN

  3. doobrie said:

    other than sheldon brown's scribblings which are numerous and informative anyone else have links
    to any good cycle maintenance web sites that have good info, pics, etc

    You want to get hold of Barnetts you do. A set of chapters (38 in total iirc) on just about most
    items that you might need to maintain on your bike.

    Do a google search, or if your connection is up to it, let me know and I can mail them across to you
    in acrobat pdf format.

    It's about 12Mb unzipped for all 38, or I can send them a few at a time..

    --
    Dnc

  4. Doesnotcompute said:

    You want to get hold of Barnetts you do.

    I know it's bad form to reply to oneself, however I've just found:

    bbinstitute.commanual.htm

    which might make your jaw drop!

    In light of this and international copyright laws, I revoke my public offer to email you the
    documents - that would be incredibly naughty 😉

    --
    Dnc (still on offer)

  5. "Doesnotcompute" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Doesnotcompute said:

    You want to get hold of Barnetts you do.

    I know it's bad form to reply to oneself, however I've just found:

    bbinstitute.commanual.htm

    which might make your jaw drop!

    In light of this and international copyright laws, I revoke my public offer to email you the
    documents - that would be incredibly naughty 😉

    --
    Dnc (still on offer)

    Holy moly - now i want the email more than ever!!!

  6. Lee said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You want to get hold of Barnetts you do.

    Quoted message said:

    Holy moly - now i want the email more than ever!!!

    well using a non spamtrap email address might be a start!

    --
    Dnc

  7. Quoted message said:

    Do a google search, or if your connection is up to it, let me know and I can mail them across to
    you in acrobat pdf format.

    It's about 12Mb unzipped for all 38, or I can send them a few at a time..

    why thank you for your offer, i'll mail you direct to advise of what a terrible idea it is and that
    you need to delete any such material and formally retract any such offer made in the obvious heat of
    our summer! 😉

  8. "Doesnotcompute" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Lee said:
    Quoted message said:

    >You want to get hold of Barnetts you do.

    Quoted message said:

    Holy moly - now i want the email more than ever!!!

    well using a non spamtrap email address might be a start!

    --
    Dnc


    i guess so.....

    gnipper at bee tee internet

    dot

    c:o; m*

    (bloody spambots)

    you understand that?

    Im on ADSL so size SHOULDNT be an issue

  9. doobrie said:

    other than sheldon brown's scribblings which are numerous and informative anyone else have links
    to any good cycle maintenance web sites that have good info, pics, etc

    1. www.parktool.com/repair_help/FAQindex.shtml

    Don't be phased by the sheer amount of detail and reliance on specialist/Park tools described there.
    Just take from it the nuggets of info you need each time and improvise/compromise a bit.

    2. Manufacturer sites, particularly: www.shimano-europe.com/cycling and
    www.campagnolo.com/psearch.php

    Mr Brown's Glossary and Google search (ie. Google search on SB's site) are invaluable.

    Quoted message said:

    as i know next to nothing about bike maintenance i think i better start getting a clue! ... the
    only problem with this is once i start i usually go too far!

    That's how you learn! :-)

    Quoted message said:

    and whilst i talk of maintenance and the subject of building do many build their own bikes?

    I did with my road bike after crashing previous one. Bought a new frame and some new components,
    but mainly used parts I already had from previous bikes. I doubt I'll ever buy another new complete
    road bike now.

    Quoted message said:

    is it the same as the computer world where you can build yourself a better system and specify
    exactly what you want in it but overall it'll end up costing you more than a similair specced mass
    produced item

    Yes, same for bikes. But money can be saved by re-using some parts from other bikes. It can even be
    worth buying complete second hand bikes just for parts.

    Quoted message said:

    i spose when you look at how many parts actually make up a bike its not so daunting i guess if you
    can start with a bare frame and do the build over a period of time

    That's right, and you can learn from gradually upgrading a bike rather than jumping in the deep end
    by building one from scratch.

    Some specialist tools are required. If on a budget, I recommend starting with the Bike Hand tool
    kit from www.mwdyason.ltd.uk/shop.asp then supplementing with more/better tools as and when
    required. It's very expensive to buy all the headset tools required, so removing or fitting a
    headset is the last job to leave to the bike shop before you get totally serious about doing
    absolutely everything yourself.

    ~PB

  10. "doobrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    other than sheldon brown's scribblings which are numerous and informative anyone else have links
    to any good cycle maintenance web sites that have good info, pics, etc

    as i know next to nothing about bike maintenance i think i better start getting a clue! ... the
    only problem with this is once i start i usually go too far!

    example being building my own second computer only a couple of months after buying my first one
    and a few years later moving into the IT trade for work!!

    Heh, IT's nasty like that. I never aimed to get into it, but then the whole dot com thing happened
    just when I was about to go to university and it was a choice between skint student or loadsamoney.

    Somehow managed to escape websites and now work in text messeging. Fun!

    Thomas.

  11. In message <[email hidden]>, Pete Biggs
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    doobrie said:

    and whilst i talk of maintenance and the subject of building do many build their own bikes?

    I did with my road bike after crashing previous one. Bought a new frame and some new components,
    but mainly used parts I already had from previous bikes. I doubt I'll ever buy another new complete
    road bike now.

    I've never actually bought a frame and a whole bunch of new bits, but I've stripped down and rebuilt
    my bikes including many new/changed bits a few times.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is it the same as the computer world where you can build yourself a better system and specify
    exactly what you want in it but overall it'll end up costing you more than a similair specced
    mass produced item

    Yes, same for bikes. But money can be saved by re-using some parts from other bikes. It can even be
    worth buying complete second hand bikes just for parts.


    One advantage for bikes compared to computers is that old parts don't 'age' in the same way as
    computer parts do. (Despite the attempts of Shimano et al....) Though once I've used up my stock of
    7 speed Sachs freewheels I don't hold out much hope.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    i spose when you look at how many parts actually make up a bike its not so daunting i guess if
    you can start with a bare frame and do the build over a period of time

    That's right, and you can learn from gradually upgrading a bike rather than jumping in the deep end
    by building one from scratch.


    Bike maintenance and building isn't that hard, as long as you have some common sense and basic
    mechanical competence. Though I wouldn't suggest someone try it if they don't know how to do the
    basic stuff like adjusting gears, brakes, replacing cables and blocks etc.

    But that was probably the level of my competence when I stripped and rebuilt my first decent bike.
    It's actually a good way to understand how your bike works.

    Quoted message said:

    It's very expensive to buy all the headset tools required, so removing or fitting a headset is the
    last job to leave to the bike shop before you get totally serious about doing absolutely
    everything yourself.

    Indeed, though on the above rebuild I did replace the headset using a suitably sized piece of steel
    tube (that I just happened to find) . but nowadays I just take it into the bike shop - it's such a
    rare occurrence that a headset needs replacing any way.
    --
    Chris French, Leeds

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