I hate Harley Davidson!

Robin Hubert <[email hidden]> wrote:
: ... or at least, the image.

: The next time some idiot blasts past me and rips the throttle for my amusement I'm going to knock
: them off their bikes at the next stop, if I catch them. If these pukes keep waking me up every
: morning blasting their over-priced noise-makers past my apartment, I'm going to take up
: street-side protest with a sign that says "Harley riders are pussys!"

: [censored] to muffle these over-priced ego builders.

: Anyone else want to throw rocks at these idiots?

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: Robin Hubert <[email hidden]>

They are annoying, but they are also very easy to share the road with when riding your bike.

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... or at least, the image.

The next time some idiot blasts past me and rips the throttle for my amusement I'm going to knock
them off their bikes at the next stop, if I catch them. If these pukes keep waking me up every
morning blasting their over-priced noise-makers past my apartment, I'm going to take up

street-side

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protest with a sign that says "Harley riders are pussys!"

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[censored] to muffle these over-priced ego builders.

Dammit, Robin, you're never going to get your point across until you learn to just say
what you mean!

Mountain Bikers Get It From Dirt Bikers* Too Bill

*there _are_ a few considerate ones, but far between it seems

Robin Hubert said:

Anyone else want to throw rocks at these idiots?

No, but I'd like to get a rice-burning crotch-rocket and run circles around them.

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Anyone else want to throw rocks at these idiots?

Nope, not me.

Why?

1) Motorcyclists in general, Harley riders included, are usually extremely polite to me. I think
there's a certain cameraderie in being on two wheels, exposed to the elements, and vigorously
asserting one's right to be on the roadway in the face of wave after wave of Cadillac Escalades.
(Trivia time: "escalade" is actually a technical military term, referring to the taking of a
fortress by storm, using ladders to scale the walls. yuk.)

Heck, I even wave at some of them, and a lot of them wave back.

2) I'm generally in favour of more diversity among road-users. This embraces motorcyclists, pedal
cyclists, tractors, equestrians, etc.

3) Back at home, the motorcycle cops ride Harleys. I wave at them. They wave back. They also wave
me through intersections they happen to be controlling. I know them all by face, and they know
me by face and bike. I feel safer.

I figure you merely encountered an [censored], and even my brief experience on this world has taught me
that [censored] are more or less equally-distributed among all walks of life and modes of transport.

That said, there is one regulation on motorcycles that I'd be keen to introduce. Here in England,
where I'm studying now, the law restricts what sort of motorcycle you are allowed to operate at
which age. You are permitted to ride progressively more powerful motorcycles (measured by engine
displacement in cubic centimetres) as you grow older. This is a fantastic idea, and I don't know why
it doesn't catch on in north america...

heck, I'd be all for instituting a similar rule on engine displacement or power for cars, as well.
That way, you don't have kids doing stupid things in stupid-powerful cars, obliterating themselves
and endangering everybody else.

-Luigi

Luigi for Transportation Tsar: Fair and Balanced!

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... or at least, the image.

The next time some idiot blasts past me and rips the throttle for my amusement I'm going to knock
them off their bikes at the next stop, if I catch them. If these pukes keep waking me up every
morning blasting

their

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over-priced noise-makers past my apartment, I'm going to take up

street-side

Quoted message said:

protest with a sign that says "Harley riders are pussys!"

Quoted message said:

[censored] to muffle these over-priced ego builders.

Anyone else want to throw rocks at these idiots?

Yep, I share your grievance, and I also think they're immature egotistical idiots. The level of
noise pollution from the Harley style bikes is outrageous and actually violent. When they go by and
my child starts screaming I have to work to relax through my feelings of animosity. I also have
similar issues when the road racer style motorcyclists go screaming past me on twisty mountain roads
at speeds of 20-50 mph above the speed
limit.

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Robin Hubert said:

Anyone else want to throw rocks at these idiots?

No, but I'd like to get a rice-burning crotch-rocket and run circles around them.

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That's the spirit!!!

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Anyone else want to throw rocks at these idiots?

I have noticed a tendency, when riding out in the country, for Harley riders to coast the last half
mile or so to me and then drop in the clutch in a roar of backfiring fury just as they pass...

I find it exhilirating, and the pee in my bike shorts helps me stay cooler.

.max

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[censored] to muffle these over-priced ego builders.

Have you tried speaking to your local cops? I'm sure your neighbors are also annoyed by the loud
noise they make.

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Max said:

I have noticed a tendency, when riding out in the country, for Harley riders to coast the
last half mile or so to me and then drop in the clutch in a roar of backfiring fury just as
they pass...

I've never had problems with the Harley riders. Generally it's the kiddies on the rice rockets that
are the annoyance.

Had one child swing over into the wide road shoulder to come up next to me, then give the throttle a
couple screaming blips and roared off.

Had his girlfriend on the back so I presume this was supposed to be a very impressive technical
maneuvre in this dimwit's feeble brain. If the babe was impressed, they deserve each other.

I do love the look and sound of a Hog though!

SMH

Robin Hubert said:

... or at least, the image.

The next time some idiot blasts past me and rips the throttle for my amusement I'm going to knock
them off their bikes at the next stop, if I catch them. If these pukes keep waking me up every
morning blasting their over-priced noise-makers past my apartment, I'm going to take up
street-side protest with a sign that says "Harley riders are pussys!"

Quoted message said:

[censored] to muffle these over-priced ego builders.

Anyone else want to throw rocks at these idiots?

While I sympathize about the noise, it's not just Harley riders who have inadequate mufflers. Most
motorcycles on the road have them these days. It's really annoying.

One thing I have noticed is that when a motorcycle is zipping in and out of lanes through traffic
and generally riding like a maniac, it usually isn't someone on a Harley. For some reason, Harley
riders seem to be smarter riders than the average guy on a Japanese or German motorcycle.

I think we do need to have and enforce tougher laws on the mufflers.

That protest sign is a bad idea. You will get your ass kicked.

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Bill Davidson said:

While I sympathize about the noise, it's not just Harley riders who have inadequate mufflers. Most
motorcycles on the road have them these days. It's really annoying.

Same problem, different reasons (read on).

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One thing I have noticed is that when a motorcycle is zipping in and out of lanes through traffic
and generally riding like a maniac, it usually isn't someone on a Harley. For some reason, Harley
riders seem to be smarter riders than the average guy on a Japanese or German motorcycle.

What we have here is two different personalities being compared.

First, harley rider: -- Thinks he's a bad-ass biker dude -- Wants others to think that he's a
bad-ass -- Loud muffler to bother people -- Rides slow and safe because he can't go fast and doesn't
wear a helmet (at least, around here)

Then, ricer rider: -- Doesn't care what others think -- Is seeking thrill and excitement, is
younger, feels invincible (ever see one doing a 70mph wheelie for a half mile with hundreds of cars
and trucks surrounding him?) -- Enjoys the noise for himself, doesn't care about others -- Also
thinks the noise alerts drivers to his presence when he's in their blind spot (applies to some
harley riders too) -- An occasional ricer rider is like Fabrizio, and rides the bike and all kit
clothes to look cool.

These are my observations about motorcycle riders. I, personally, see no point in riding a harley,
just as I see no point in riding a heavy, fat-tire MTB on pavement; if you're uncomfortable on a
road bike, a comfort bike or hybrid will work better. Just the same, there are such motorcycles --
Honda Gold Wing riders look very comfortable, are very quiet, and ride very safely. They're just
relaxing and enjoying fresh air.

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I think we do need to have and enforce tougher laws on the mufflers.

With some exceptions. I suspect that it's easy enough to use a higher gear and be quiet when in
residential neighborhoods; but on the highway, it's certainly worthwhile to increase your profile by
being loud. I believe the noise does help, if ever so slightly, with safety.

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That protest sign is a bad idea. You will get your ass kicked.

Speaking of safety, ass-kickage will definately occur if you stand at the side of the road with
that sign.

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--Bill Davidson

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Rick Onanian

At least they never get too close to me. It is enough satisfaction to me that they usually have a
big belly and I don't.

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Quoted message said:

... or at least, the image.

The next time some idiot blasts past me and rips the throttle for my amusement I'm going to knock
them off their bikes at the next stop, if I catch them. If these pukes keep waking me up every
morning blasting their over-priced noise-makers past my apartment, I'm going to take up

street-side

Quoted message said:

protest with a sign that says "Harley riders are pussys!"

Quoted message said:

[censored] to muffle these over-priced ego builders.

Anyone else want to throw rocks at these idiots?

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Robin Hubert <[email hidden]

"Rick Onanian" <[email hidden]> wrote

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What we have here is two different personalities being compared.

First, harley rider:

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Then, ricer rider:

Third - older harley rider -- quiet (mostly) -- sedate -- strong self-preservation gene (riding to
go see the grandkids) -- generally courteous -- usually a full dress rather than a rat bike --
sometimes with 'older harley rider spouse' on the back, and she don't allow any foolishness.

Fourth - BMW rider ---same as 'older harley rider', but even quieter

Pete

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... or at least, the image.

The next time some idiot blasts past me and rips the throttle for my amusement I'm going to knock
them off their bikes at the next stop, if I catch them. If these pukes keep waking me up every
morning blasting their over-priced noise-makers past my apartment, I'm going to take up

street-side

Quoted message said:

protest with a sign that says "Harley riders are pussys!"

Quoted message said:

[censored] to muffle these over-priced ego builders.

Anyone else want to throw rocks at these idiots?

No, but there is really no excuse for allowing then to have an exhaust system that is so loud. I
don't care that this is their well recognized sound, it should be quieted.

Pete said:

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First, harley rider: Then, ricer rider:

Third - older harley rider

Usually converted to the Honda Gold Wing I described. 😉

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Fourth - BMW rider ---same as 'older harley rider', but even quieter

The ones I see around here tend to ride like ricers.

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Pete

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Rick Onanian said:

First, harley rider: -- Rides slow and safe because he can't go fast and doesn't wear a helmet (at
least, around here)

Here we have a motorcycle mandatory helmet law so they wear crappy skull-cap helmets. Harley's can
go fast (just add oil after every ride). I think these guys are just a little more into safe riding.
I think that is in part because they tend to be a little older than the ricer set. Their bikes are
also a bit less maneuverable than most ricers.

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Then, ricer rider: -- Doesn't care what others think

Definitely not true. These guys are into image--just a different one.

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-- Is seeking thrill and excitement, is younger, feels invincible (ever see one doing a 70mph
wheelie for a half mile with hundreds of cars and trucks surrounding him?)

Many times. Most recently last week though I think it was only 300 yards at the most.

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-- Enjoys the noise for himself, doesn't care about others

No, he thinks he's impressing people.

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-- Also thinks the noise alerts drivers to his presence when he's in their blind spot (applies to
some harley riders too)

They say that but smart riding contributes far more to safety and the noise doesn't always help. It
certainly doesn't help on the freeway when they're doing 95mph. Everything happens too fast.

--Bill Davidson
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That protest sign is a bad idea. You will get your ass kicked.

Since when would he get his ass kicked by a bunch of dentists?

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Anyone else want to throw rocks at these idiots?

No, but there is really no excuse for allowing then to have an exhaust system that is so loud. I
don't care that this is their well recognized sound, it should be quieted.

You know, whenever I hear a Harley with straight-thru pipes, I think of the gas-powered sump pump on
my uncle's farm...farting out that horrible blat-blat-blat. I think he's had that pump since
WWII....nothing like the entrancing sound of a tractor motor clicking over at 1300rpm....

Cheers,

Scott..

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Robin Hubert said:

... or at least, the image.

The next time some idiot blasts past me and rips the throttle for my amusement I'm going to
knock them off their bikes at the next stop, if I catch them. If these pukes keep waking me up
every morning blasting

their

Quoted message said:

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over-priced noise-makers past my apartment, I'm going to take up

street-side

Quoted message said:

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protest with a sign that says "Harley riders are pussys!"

Quoted message said:

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[censored] to muffle these over-priced ego builders.

Anyone else want to throw rocks at these idiots?

While I sympathize about the noise, it's not just Harley riders who have inadequate mufflers. Most
motorcycles on the road have them these days. It's really annoying.

One thing I have noticed is that when a motorcycle is zipping in and out of lanes through traffic
and generally riding like a maniac, it usually isn't someone on a Harley. For some reason, Harley
riders seem to be smarter riders than the average guy on a Japanese or German motorcycle.

I think we do need to have and enforce tougher laws on the mufflers.

That protest sign is a bad idea. You will get your ass kicked.

You might be right and you might be wrong but that's never stopped me and my record ain't bad. If
you're an [censored] (not that you are) I'm ready to call you on it.

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Robin Hubert <[email hidden]