Heart rate question(s) ....

Jimbo Jones said:

Hi all

I went on my usual ride this morning but my legs felt like jelly after about
30 minutes. I did a 100 km ride on the weekend and I suspect I haven't quite
replaced all my spent energy.

My avg heart rate on the weekend was 153 for the 100 km, avg speed 30.9 km/h
(including stops for a flat, banana, wee etc.). This morning (38 km ride) my
heart rate was 163 for an avg speed of 31.7 km/h. This is a few (4-5) beats
higher than usual for the same distance, speed and wind, temp etc.

I know this sounds like a pretty basic question but does your heart rate
increase when your body is struggling to find energy? My perceived exertion
was probably higher than usual.

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I reckon you've figured it out already...

If you're recovering from a big ride, make sure it's a recovery session,
not a hard one 🙂

If you're concerned, get into the habit of taking your resting HR in the
mornings... if your resting HR is up by 5 bpm, you're entitled to sleep
in. If it's up by 10 bpm, doc's orders are to stay in bed.

Quoted message said:

PS anybody in bris notice that the have changed the sign along the
coronation drive foot/bike path from "cyclists must dismount" to "cyclist
must reduce speed". I suspect someone may have stacked it while trying to
walk on cleats..

Haven't ridden for a few days, but that's a crackup. Did everyone notice
it was only a yellow "recommended" sign to start with... and hey, we
take up less room ON the bike than walking next to it...

Tam

Jimbo Jones said:

Hi all

I went on my usual ride this morning but my legs felt like jelly after about
30 minutes. I did a 100 km ride on the weekend and I suspect I haven't quite
replaced all my spent energy.

My avg heart rate on the weekend was 153 for the 100 km, avg speed 30.9 km/h
(including stops for a flat, banana, wee etc.). This morning (38 km ride) my
heart rate was 163 for an avg speed of 31.7 km/h. This is a few (4-5) beats
higher than usual for the same distance, speed and wind, temp etc.

Do you know what your max HR is? 153 bpm is a pretty high
average for 100km (3 and a bit hours). Unless you're racing
or training specifically, that would seem to be working
rather a lot too hard!

Quoted message said:

I know this sounds like a pretty basic question but does your heart rate
increase when your body is struggling to find energy? My perceived exertion
was probably higher than usual.

It can do, and it can refuse to too. Confused yet? 🙂 A symptom
of a bonk is a lowered HR, as is a raised HR. "It depends".

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Quoted message said:

Hi all

I know this sounds like a pretty basic question but does your heart rate
increase when your body is struggling to find energy? My perceived

exertion

Quoted message said:

was probably higher than usual.

An increased heart rate can be a sign of over training.

Jimbo Jones said:

PS anybody in bris notice that the have changed the sign along the
coronation drive foot/bike path from "cyclists must dismount" to "cyclist
must reduce speed". I suspect someone may have stacked it while trying to
walk on cleats..

I've always hated/ignored the cyclist must dismount signs, they never ask motorists to get out of there cars.

PiledHigher said:

Jimbo Jones said:

PS anybody in bris notice that the have changed the sign along the
coronation drive foot/bike path from "cyclists must dismount" to
"cyclist
must reduce speed". I suspect someone may have stacked it while
trying to
walk on cleats..

I've always hated/ignored the cyclist must dismount signs, they never
ask motorists to get out of there cars.

They have to if they want to use the footpath.

Theo

Bleve,

Heart rates are as follows
MHR 198 bpm
RHR 50 bpm
Age 26

My perceived exertion on the ride was probably only 7/10. I wasn't working
all that hard.

I use the formula % = (HR - RHR) / (MHR-RHR) rather than the old 220-age
trick. By this, I was at around 70% of maximum.

Jimbo

Jimbo Jones said:

Bleve,

Heart rates are as follows
MHR 198 bpm
RHR 50 bpm
Age 26

My perceived exertion on the ride was probably only 7/10. I wasn't working
all that hard.

I use the formula % = (HR - RHR) / (MHR-RHR) rather than the old 220-age
trick. By this, I was at around 70% of maximum.

220-age doesn't give you any sort of training zones, it's a statistical
guess, like my saying you're 178cm tall, because that's the average.
There's some debate as to the worth of using "reserve heartrate"
stuff (unrelated to your HRmax save for using it as a parameter). I'm
yet to be convinced that it's a useful way to determine intensity zones
for heartrate based training.

If your HRmax is 198 (you've actually measured it?) then your
E1-E3 zones are visable here :

http://www.aboc.com.au/perl/hrcalc.pl?hrmax=198

I generally recommend that most riders, unless doing something
specific, stick mostly in E1, which for you, is around 128-148 bpm.

You're currently riding in what's known as "no mans land", E2. E2
is generally too hard to recover from quickly, but not hard enough to
provoke adaptation to higher intensity. It's not
often used by many coaches* but many recreational riders spend a lot of
time in that zone, without realising that thay may find their
training/riding more productive at a slightly lower intensity. YMMV,
of course.

* I use it to prepare riders for E3 and higher intensity work, but
quite specifically, not randomly

Thanks for the tips Tam & Bleve.

WEnt for another ride this morning - heart rate dropped back to its usual
ticking. WIll take heed of the advice on sleeping, hr zones etc... another
good excuse to stay in bed : P.

Is it true that your rhr in the morning will be higher than at night due to
adrenalin to help wake you up or is that BS?

Jimbo Jones said:

Thanks for the tips Tam & Bleve.

WEnt for another ride this morning - heart rate dropped back to its usual
ticking. WIll take heed of the advice on sleeping, hr zones etc... another
good excuse to stay in bed : P.

Is it true that your rhr in the morning will be higher than at night due to
adrenalin to help wake you up or is that BS?

Depends on how loud your alarm clock is, probably 🙂

Bleve said:

Jimbo Jones said:

Thanks for the tips Tam & Bleve.

WEnt for another ride this morning - heart rate dropped back to its usual
ticking. WIll take heed of the advice on sleeping, hr zones etc... another
good excuse to stay in bed : P.

Is it true that your rhr in the morning will be higher than at night due to
adrenalin to help wake you up or is that BS?

Depends on how loud your alarm clock is, probably 🙂

LOL Mine's very loud. I've learned to wake up BEFORE it goes off.

Tam