Tyler Hamilton

"Deeznuts" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Let me explain this in a way that you guys might be able to understand. Let me also preface this
by saying that I have been a fan of Tyler's for a while and was really glad to see him win LBL
this year. The reason people are criticizing him is because he is setting a bad and unhealthy
precedent.

How was what he did unhealthy? OK he ground his teeth in pain and probably needs to have a bunch of
caps replaced but I dont think you could call it unhealthy. He had xrays taken of the injury every
night to make shure that he was'nt doing worse or permanent damage so I think the health aspect was
very much a concern of his. He made an educated decision that he could deal with the pain as long as
it wasnt making the injury worse.

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While you can admire his sack size for what he did, it was not a very smart thing to do. He is
like the asswipe at work who is always ready to work nights and weekends and makes everyone else
look like lazy because they like to relax a little bit.

When did having a good work ethic become a bad thing? peoples motivations for how hard they work are
diferent. when I used to be a Chef my South American dishwashers would bust their hump becouse they
had families to send their money back home to, does that meen that they set a bad precedent for the
american high school kids who whined if they had to take the trash out to the dumpster? No they
where lazy little [censored] wehather the South Amercans worked hard or not.

Tyler was having the best season of his career and he didnt want to end the tour in the first stage.

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Cycling is not hockey and shouldn't have the gay-ass "shut up and play" attitude that was
perpetuated in so many idiotic Sports Illustrated articles.

But do you really think that cycling would benefit from a "Oh I broke a nail!!" attitude? Or perhaps
your going more for the "I don't feel like sprinting today, maybe tomorrow......" attitude.

"slartibartfast" <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

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How was what he did unhealthy? OK he ground his teeth in pain and probably needs to have a bunch
of caps replaced but I dont think you could call it unhealthy. He had xrays taken of the injury
every night to make shure that he was'nt doing worse or permanent damage so I think the health
aspect was very much a concern of his. He made an educated decision that he could deal with the
pain as long as it wasnt making the injury worse.

What would have happened if he fell like that again? The second time around he would not have had
any stopping power between the pavement and his face. He might have ended up like Andre Kivilev.

- Boyd S.

What would have happened if he fell like that again? The second time around he would not have had
any stopping power between the pavement and his face. He might have ended up like Andre Kivilev.

- Boyd S. [/B][/QUOTE]

That is true, but any sprinter might end up like Kivilev. Descending is certainly not very safe. If Armstrong had attack JU hard on a decent should Jan have sat up because descending is too dangerous for him. I doubt very much that cycling is a safe sport. There are cars, motorbikes, other riders, pavment, cliffs, extreme heat and preformance enhancing drugs. I would even think that the levels of training at the pro level are particularly good for you in the long run. Sure Tyler increased his risk, but shouldn;t we blame Armstrong for setting a bad example. If we belive Armstrong and how dehydrated he says he was then Armstrong nearly rode himself to death. That is a terrible example and he should have stopped riding in the TT to stop for water. Overall, Tyler did take addtional risk, but no risk that is unacceptable. The level of addtional risk that he took by riding with a broken collerbone was probably equal to the level of risk he would have been willing to take trying to win the tour anyway.

"Boyd Speerschneider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"slartibartfast" <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

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How was what he did unhealthy? OK he ground his teeth in pain and probably needs to have a bunch
of caps replaced but I dont think you could call it unhealthy. He had xrays taken of the injury
every night to make shure that he was'nt doing worse or permanent damage so I think the health
aspect was very much a concern of his. He made an educated decision that he could deal with the
pain as long as it wasnt making the injury worse.

What would have happened if he fell like that again? The second time around he would not have had
any stopping power between

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pavement and his face. He might have ended up like Andre Kivilev.

- Boyd S.

True, but the fact is that riding a bicycle is dangerous. we all accept that its not a question
of if you are going to fall, but when and how bad. Kivilev didn't have an injury before his
tragic fall.

A friend of mine has a rare condition where the "soft spot" in her forehead from when she was a baby
never filled in so there's a hole in her skull, does that mean she's "setting a bad precedent" by
riding a bike? granted she'll never race, but I don't think the hole in her skull should be the
determining factor for that decision.

Jason