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  1. i have a specialized hard rock mt bike from way back in 1995, and would
    like to make some inexpensive changes to trim down its rock-like
    weight. what would give me the most bang for the buck? i do plan on
    switching to slicks for city (and trainer) use. as far as what
    inexpensive means ... i'm trying to do all this for about $100-150
    (probably mostly used components).

    i know i can spend a lot on titanium nuts and such, but i'm guessing i
    can do a lot for a little considering how heavy this thing is starting
    out at ...

    thanks!

  2. Quoted message said:

    i have a specialized hard rock mt bike from way back in 1995, and would
    like to make some inexpensive changes to trim down its rock-like
    weight. what would give me the most bang for the buck? i do plan on
    switching to slicks for city (and trainer) use. as far as what
    inexpensive means ... i'm trying to do all this for about $100-150
    (probably mostly used components).

    i know i can spend a lot on titanium nuts and such, but i'm guessing i
    can do a lot for a little considering how heavy this thing is starting
    out at ...

    Here's the problem, it got to be "heavy" by an accumulation of many parts, each
    of which weighs just a bit more than it might. Start taking parts off and
    you'll see what I mean. Pull the wheels and what's left will feel pretty light.
    Heft each wheel and it's not so heavy either. Except maybe the back with that
    clump of steel cogs on the hub. Your $150 might be enough to buy a lighter one
    of those. The best way to take five pounds off that bike is to find 80 places to
    remove an ounce, because no one component, even the frame, is going to be a
    whole pound overweight.

    OTOH, I doubt it really is heavy, a modern cross country race bike for a full
    size guy comes in around 25 pounds. Go weigh this thing, if it's under 30 it
    ain't heavy.

    If you really want to do something with this bike, get a better saddle,
    seatpost, bars, and bar-ends so that it fits perfectly and you'll have these
    cool parts you like that can go on yoiur future lightweight bike and the better
    fit and comfort will help more than downweighting.

    Ron

  3. Quoted message said:

    i have a specialized hard rock mt bike from way back in 1995, and would
    like to make some inexpensive changes to trim down its rock-like
    weight. what would give me the most bang for the buck? i do plan on
    switching to slicks for city (and trainer) use. as far as what
    inexpensive means ... i'm trying to do all this for about $100-150
    (probably mostly used components).

    i know i can spend a lot on titanium nuts and such, but i'm guessing i
    can do a lot for a little considering how heavy this thing is starting
    out at ...

    thanks!

    Tires and tubes but weight off you is much more important than weight
    off the bicycle. You can spend thousands to decrease it 4-5 pounds or
    lose weight your self. I just lost .5bw(a bw=20 pounds), now it's like
    my bicycle weighs 9 pounds!!!

  4. quote='Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

    i have a specialized hard rock mt bike from way back in 1995, and would
    like to make some inexpensive changes to trim down its rock-like
    weight. what would give me the most bang for the buck? i do plan on
    switching to slicks for city (and trainer) use. as far as what
    inexpensive means ... i'm trying to do all this for about $100-150
    (probably mostly used components).

    i know i can spend a lot on titanium nuts and such, but i'm guessing i
    can do a lot for a little considering how heavy this thing is starting
    out at ...

    thanks!

    Tires and tubes but weight off you is much more important than weight
    off the bicycle. You can spend thousands to decrease it 4-5 pounds or
    lose weight your self. I just lost .5bw(a bw=20 pounds), now it's like
    my bicycle weighs 9 pounds!!![/QUOTE]

    Of course your assuming the OP is like the rest of us and could drop ten pounds of fat off with no problem. Surprisingly enough there are still a few people left in North America that are neither anorexic nor overweight.

  5. Quoted message said:

    <snip> some inexpensive changes to trim down
    its rock-like weight. what would give me the
    most bang for the buck? <snip> as far as what
    inexpensive means ... i'm trying to do all this
    for about $100-150

    A big bowl of raisin bran each morning. It has reduced my bike+rider
    weight by about 250g or so for a mere couple of dollars, which is about
    100g/$--better than any Ti or carbon accesories.

    ;-)

  6. Quoted message said:

    i have a specialized hard rock mt bike from way back in 1995, and would
    like to make some inexpensive changes to trim down its rock-like
    weight. what would give me the most bang for the buck? i do plan on
    switching to slicks for city (and trainer) use. as far as what
    inexpensive means ... i'm trying to do all this for about $100-150
    (probably mostly used components).

    i know i can spend a lot on titanium nuts and such, but i'm guessing i
    can do a lot for a little considering how heavy this thing is starting
    out at ...

    TBH it's hardly worth playing weight-saving games with a ten year old
    MTB, you'd be better off putting it towards a newer bike. The best way
    to save weight is on the frame and it's certainly not worth swapping
    everything to a new frame (which will run to way more than $150).

    Likewise, all the really lightweight gear stuff these days will be 9sp
    and therefore not compatible with your shifters. Replacing the
    drivetrain will cost you a damn sight more than $150.

    A lightweight set of wheels would help a lot, but then if you plan on
    using it as an urban or offroad bike you want durability on the wheels.
    Plus even a decent lightweight set of wheels will cost more than $150.

    Bottom line is that saving weight is a hobby for those with money to
    burn.

    As I see it, you've got two options. One is to look around and
    steadily upgrade any and all bits of the bike as you find secondhand
    stuff. Two is to splash out plenty on some decent-quality lightweight
    slicks and spend the rest of your money on CDs or something. The Foo
    Fighters are quite good to stomp along to.

  7. Quoted message said:

    i have a specialized hard rock mt bike from way back in 1995, and would
    like to make some inexpensive changes to trim down its rock-like
    weight. what would give me the most bang for the buck?

    Convert it to a single speed. Should cost little or nothing, and will
    definitely lighten that sucker up.

    -Vee

  8. don;t carry any water. 2 lbs saved..

    wle.

  9. Quoted message said:

    i have a specialized hard rock mt bike from way back in 1995, and would
    like to make some inexpensive changes to trim down its rock-like
    weight. what would give me the most bang for the buck? i do plan on
    switching to slicks for city (and trainer) use. as far as what
    inexpensive means ... i'm trying to do all this for about $100-150
    (probably mostly used components).

    i know i can spend a lot on titanium nuts and such, but i'm guessing i
    can do a lot for a little considering how heavy this thing is starting
    out at ...

    I used a newer HardRock for general road riding for nearly a year and
    my advice is... don't worry about the weight too much. The cost is just
    not worth it; you'd need to upgrade everything (including the
    frame!)... might as well buy a new one.

    There are some things you can do to make it more road-worthy though,
    like replacing the suspension fork with a Tange steel one (only $45),
    use light narrow slicks (1.25" or so), a closer ratio cluster, and
    install some long barends with a long low stem to give you a better
    position. Total cost should be under $150, and incidentally you *will*
    lose about 5 lbs of weight!

    BTW I'm less than 2% faster on my nice "new" Ti bike with Dura -ace
    compared to my Hardrock... so I don't think you'll be giving up much
    speed.

  10. thanks for all the responses ... and very interesting to see the
    variety of opinions. to give you a little more background, i'm
    reasonably experienced with bikes ... but mostly fixed gear converted
    road bikes, not big clunky mountain bikes. i have a fixed gear built
    on an old steel bianchi frame ... $200 total weighing in at 19 pounds
    .... so those of you who said it can't be done, think again.

    my question though is for someone who i've determined would do better
    with a geared mountain-type bike for urban "workout" riding. the
    person who said not everyone can lose so much weight was very astute
    .... this is for a small asian female, so the point is to reduce the
    bikes weight so she can carry it upstairs, and so the thing isn't out
    of proportion to her size.

    i think from reading the suggestions, these are the best tips i've
    combined:

    - remove [censored] (water cage, etc) ... same kind of thing i did on my
    fixie, which has one brake ... although she (novice) will need both
    - slicks and possibly new wheels
    - lighter cogs
    - i already cut the bars down to the right width, so that's some weight
    there
    - lighter seat

    thanks again

  11. Quoted message said:

    road bikes, not big clunky mountain bikes. i have a fixed gear built
    on an old steel bianchi frame ... $200 total weighing in at 19 pounds
    ... so those of you who said it can't be done, think again.

    Those who said what couldn't be done? 19 pounds is pretty darn hefty for a
    stripped down road fixie.

    Jasper

  12. Quoted message said:

    i have a specialized hard rock mt bike from way back in 1995, and would
    like to make some inexpensive changes to trim down its rock-like
    weight. what would give me the most bang for the buck? i do plan on
    switching to slicks for city (and trainer) use. as far as what
    inexpensive means ... i'm trying to do all this for about $100-150
    (probably mostly used components).

    i know i can spend a lot on titanium nuts and such, but i'm guessing i
    can do a lot for a little considering how heavy this thing is starting
    out at ...

    The easiest, and cheapest way would be to trash it and buy something
    else off of eBay. Check around, I've seen some really good deals
    recently (and a lot of [censored]).

    That said, on these bikes you can usually drop some weight quick with
    new handlebars, stem, seatpost and seat. Beyond that, you're looking at
    new wheels.

  13. pretty darn hefty? 19 pounds feels light enough for the $200 i spent,
    and with my big gigantic muscles. my point is that saying it can't be
    done is a tad elitist. as with all things, when asked a question, you
    have to find out what the person asking it really wants. for $200, you
    can get either a new huffy, or a used, 25-pound clunker road bike. or,
    you can get a clean, smooth running 19-pound fixed gear.

    sure you can't have a lighter-than-air space age carbon fiber bike for
    $200, but those of you who are really into biking should realize that
    not everyone can spend the kind of cash that you do to achieve
    perfection. the elitist thing is to say that you can't do anything
    useful to a 30-pound mountain bike with $200 to make it lighter. no
    you can't make it a 20-pound competition bike, but you definitely can
    do something useful with it.

    imho
    b

  14. Quoted message said:

    pretty darn hefty? 19 pounds feels light enough for the $200 i spent,
    and with my big gigantic muscles. my point is that saying it can't be
    done is a tad elitist. as with all things, when asked a question, you
    have to find out what the person asking it really wants. for $200, you
    can get either a new huffy, or a used, 25-pound clunker road bike. or,
    you can get a clean, smooth running 19-pound fixed gear.

    sure you can't have a lighter-than-air space age carbon fiber bike for
    $200, but those of you who are really into biking should realize that
    not everyone can spend the kind of cash that you do to achieve
    perfection. the elitist thing is to say that you can't do anything
    useful to a 30-pound mountain bike with $200 to make it lighter. no
    you can't make it a 20-pound competition bike, but you definitely can
    do something useful with it.

    You didn't say $200, you said $100-150. But even with $200, you're simply
    not going to be able to do very much about the weight. If you wanted to
    hear "just convert it to a fixed gear/single speed, *that*'ll shed some
    weight", which is true, you should have asked the question differently.
    $100-150 buys about half a drivetrain worth of Deore, but that's not going
    to get the weight down in any significant fashion. Unless you tell us
    *more* about *exactly* what's on the bike, nobody's going to be able to
    offer more than generalities. But the thing is, $100-150 isn't enough to
    replace more than a few components, and unless there are some particular
    components that are more heavier than others (say, the wheels turn out to
    be made with cast-iron rims), there's not much point in upgrading just a
    few components.

    Anybody who knows enough about bikes to scrounge around in second hand
    parts bins for ultracheap gear and/or to want a single-speed/fixie
    conversion wouldn't be asking the question you did, unless he were setting
    out to prove a point about the unhelpfulness of rbt.

    In other words, I call troll.

    Jasper

  15. wle said:

    don;t carry any water. 2 lbs saved..

    Die from heat stroke - even more weight saved!

    --
    Sock Puppet

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  16. Sock Puppet better get his hand out of his mouth.

    "Sock Puppet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    don;t carry any water. 2 lbs saved..

    Die from heat stroke - even more weight saved!

    --
    Sock Puppet

  17. Sock Puppet said:
    wle said:

    don;t carry any water. 2 lbs saved..

    Die from heat stroke - even more weight saved!

    Not until decomposition commences.

    {disclosure}

    BS

  18. Doug Huffman said:

    Sock Puppet better get his hand out of his mouth.

    huffman is real life model for Homer Simpson!

    --
    Sock Puppet

  19. Bill Sornson said:
    Sock Puppet said:
    wle said:

    don;t carry any water. 2 lbs saved..

    Die from heat stroke - even more weight saved!

    Not until decomposition commences.

    {disclosure}

    What, doesn't the weight of worms count?

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

  20. Mark Hickey said:
    Bill Sornson said:
    Sock Puppet said:

    On 31-Aug-2005, "wle" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > don;t carry any water. 2 lbs saved..

    Die from heat stroke - even more weight saved!

    Not until decomposition commences.

    {disclosure}

    What, doesn't the weight of worms count?

    Shake 'em off before clipping in.

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