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  1. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml;jsessionid=DIQKSKBVN1TCBQFIQMGCM5OAVCBQUJVC?xml=/health/2005/08/29/hcycl29.xml

    "On your bike - and into danger?"

    "Urban cycling has many health benefits. Don't let the pollution put you
    off, says Tom Leonard
    There is a nagging doubt that grips everyone who ever decides to put foot to
    pedal and venture on to the streets of a British city on a bicycle. Will
    this constitute a health trip or quite the opposite? To be more precise,
    will I roll up energised and exercised or will I roll up in Accident and
    Emergency?"

    Good article over all, looking mainly at the David Newby study the Times
    used as a scare tactic :-)

    Cheers, helen s

  2. wafflycat said:

    Good article over all, looking mainly at the David Newby study the Times
    used as a scare tactic :-)

    There was also a piece in the science section in last Thursday's
    Guardian which countered the Times scare story by pointing out that car
    drivers are at much higher risk from the effects of pollution than
    cyclists. (It probably helps that the Guardian journalist actually
    spoke to David Newby rather than just looking for the most
    controversial angle.)

    <url:http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/thisweek/story/0,12977,1555320,00.html>

    d.

  3. davek wrote on Tue, 30 Aug 2005

    Quoted message said:
    wafflycat said:

    Good article over all, looking mainly at the David Newby study the Times
    used as a scare tactic :-)

    There was also a piece in the science section in last Thursday's
    Guardian which countered the Times scare story by pointing out that car
    drivers are at much higher risk from the effects of pollution than
    cyclists.

    So, er, that leaves walking as the really healthy option.
    --
    Iain Archer To email, please use Reply-To address

  4. davek said:
    wafflycat said:

    Good article over all, looking mainly at the David Newby study the
    Times used as a scare tactic :-)

    There was also a piece in the science section in last Thursday's
    Guardian which countered the Times scare story by pointing out that
    car drivers are at much higher risk from the effects of pollution than
    cyclists. (It probably helps that the Guardian journalist actually
    spoke to David Newby rather than just looking for the most
    controversial angle.)

    Who did that? Revoke their NUJ card, I say. Next they'll stop being
    sensationalist, and where will we end up? I tell you where we'll end up:
    Dead under a pile of asylum-seeking red light jumping gatso operating
    cyclists. That's what'll happen.

    Urm, anyway.

    --
    Ambrose

  5. Ambrose Nankivell said:

    Who did that? Revoke their NUJ card, I say. Next they'll stop being
    sensationalist, and where will we end up? I tell you where we'll end up:
    Dead under a pile of asylum-seeking red light jumping gatso operating
    cyclists. That's what'll happen.

    Twice in the last month I've seen newspapers with stories about the
    public being misled by ...erm not us guv! One was all the fantastic
    fabrications around the Piano Man who all the newspapers reported as a
    virtuoso pianist but if you believe their latest reports, was someone
    who couldn't play a note. The other was the Menezes shooting where the
    newspapers complaints about police misinformation all seemed to track
    back to "eye witness" accounts carried by .... erm the newspapers.

    To be honest, I've given up reading them except as works of fiction.

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  6. davek said:
    wafflycat said:

    Good article over all, looking mainly at the David Newby study the Times
    used as a scare tactic :-)

    There was also a piece in the science section in last Thursday's
    Guardian which countered the Times scare story

    Hmmm, that's almost rather encouraging really ...
    The times publishes a pile of steaming [censored], whereupon both grauniad
    and torygraph effectively rubbish it by publishing more balanced
    versions of the same story.

    --
    Nick Kew

  7. Iain Archer said:


    So, er, that leaves walking as the really healthy option.


    Walking?? Ohhhh Noooo....
    Tendonit

  8. John Hearns said:


    Quoted message said:

    So, er, that leaves walking as the really healthy option.


    Walking?? Ohhhh Noooo....


    Sorry.
    Tendonitis, flat feet, athletes foot, blisters...

  9. John Hearns said:

    Tendonitis, flat feet, athletes foot, blisters...

    Not to mention being mown down by car drivers high on carbon
    monoxide...

    d.

  10. in message <[email hidden]>, Iain Archer

    (') said:

    davek wrote on Tue, 30 Aug 2005

    Quoted message said:
    wafflycat said:

    Good article over all, looking mainly at the David Newby study the
    Times used as a scare tactic :-)

    There was also a piece in the science section in last Thursday's
    Guardian which countered the Times scare story by pointing out that car
    drivers are at much higher risk from the effects of pollution than
    cyclists.

    So, er, that leaves walking as the really healthy option.

    Where you're exposed to the same amount of pollution as the cyclist, but
    for longer. Wouldn't the really sensible thing in urban areas be to
    remove the principal cause of the pollution? Then everyone would be
    healthier.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; When your hammer is C++, everything begins to look like a thumb.

  11. At 09:29:52 on 30/08/2005, wafflycat delighted uk.rec.cycling by announcing:

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml;jsessionid=DIQKSKBVN1TCBQFIQMGC
    M5OAVCBQUJVC?xml=/health/2005/08/29/hcycl29.xml

    "On your bike - and into danger?"

    "However, Newby also pointed out that drivers faced an even bigger risk, as
    car ventilation systems suck in air at ground level, which is even more
    polluted."

    That's quite a generalisation, is it not? The intake on a Peugeot 206, for
    instance, is on top of the bonnet.

  12. Alex said:


    That's quite a generalisation, is it not? The intake on a Peugeot 206, for
    instance, is on top of the bonnet.

    Still rather lower than a cyclists mouth though

    --
    Arthur Clune

  13. Arthur Clune said:
    Alex said:


    That's quite a generalisation, is it not? The intake on a Peugeot 206, for
    instance, is on top of the bonnet.

    Still rather lower than a cyclists mouth though

    Maybe they are Dark Siders because they are that much lower than the
    traditional cyclists..

    ...d

  14. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    To be honest, I've given up reading them except as works of fiction.

    I have considered them thus since 1987, when working for British
    Wasteofspace. We were suspended without pay by the management, and all the
    media reported it as a strike, even after they were informed otherwise.

  15. "Arthur Clune" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Alex said:


    That's quite a generalisation, is it not? The intake on a Peugeot 206,
    for
    instance, is on top of the bonnet.

    Still rather lower than a cyclists mouth though

    Not much lower than mine at perhaps 80cm.

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