"Michael" in news:[email hidden]: | When something tastes to acidic, it seems that | some sugar makes it more bearable. | | I was just wondering....does sugar actually affect the PH
Basically no, at least not directly. (The one is based on organic chemistry or covalent bonding, the other on ionic bonding. They can co-exist without affecting each other.)
It is the physiology or psychology of taste that has this effect (to borrow Brillat-Savarin's famous book title). Humans are notoriously unable to sense absolute sugar levels in controlled tests (in food chemistry, for instance in the wine industry) but they can sense sweet-acid balance. That's why some Champagnes taste "sweet" and others "dry" when their actual sugar and acid levels are just a little skewed from each other. That's also why some citrus fruits impress people as sweet and others as sour when all of them actually have lots of sugar and acid both. (And why some excellent German Riesling wines go well with food, despite some residual sugar -- it is balanced with acid, as in Champagne.)
When something tastes to acidic, it seems that some sugar makes it more bearable.
I was just wondering....does sugar actually affect the PH or is it just one of those "mind tricks"?
I don't know, but I always use some sort of sweetener when I make my spaghetti sauce. A friend gave me that tip back in the seventies. She used brown sugar...... Sharon
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When something tastes to acidic, it seems that some sugar makes it more bearable.
I was just wondering....does sugar actually affect the PH or is it just one of those "mind tricks"?
I don't know, but I always use some sort of sweetener when I make my spaghetti sauce. A friend gave me that tip back in the seventies. She used brown sugar...... Sharon
When something tastes to acidic, it seems that some sugar makes it more bearable.
I was just wondering....does sugar actually affect the PH or is it just one of those "mind tricks"?
It just makes it taste sweeter; it doesn't increase the pH. -- -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Several notes since 8/18/05, including the Blue Ribbon Brownie Recipe and a sad note added this evening, 8/27/05.
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When something tastes to acidic, it seems that some sugar makes it more bearable.
I was just wondering....does sugar actually affect the PH or is it just one of those "mind tricks"?
It just makes it taste sweeter; it doesn't increase the pH. -- -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Several notes since 8/18/05, including the Blue Ribbon Brownie Recipe and a sad note added this evening, 8/27/05.
Wondering, if tomatoes are acidic, -- are they? -- would not sugar make them less acidic, would that be adjusting the ph? or not?
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When something tastes to acidic, it seems that some sugar makes it more bearable.
I was just wondering....does sugar actually affect the PH or is it just one of those "mind tricks"?
It just makes it taste sweeter; it doesn't increase the pH. -- -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Several notes since 8/18/05, including the Blue Ribbon Brownie Recipe and a sad note added this evening, 8/27/05.
Wondering, if tomatoes are acidic, -- are they? -- would not sugar make them less acidic, would that be adjusting the ph? or not?
Dee Dee
Sugar will make them *taste* less acidic but will not change the pH.
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When something tastes to acidic, it seems that some sugar makes it more bearable.
I was just wondering....does sugar actually affect the PH or is it just one of those "mind tricks"?
It just makes it taste sweeter; it doesn't increase the pH. -- -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Several notes since 8/18/05, including the Blue Ribbon Brownie Recipe and a sad note added this evening, 8/27/05.
Wondering, if tomatoes are acidic, -- are they? -- would not sugar make them less acidic, would that be adjusting the ph? or not?
sugar won't affect the pH of anything because it doesn't give up or accept hydrogen ions, end of story
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When something tastes to acidic, it seems that some sugar makes it more bearable.
I was just wondering....does sugar actually affect the PH or is it just one of those "mind tricks"?
It just makes it taste sweeter; it doesn't increase the pH. -- -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Several notes since 8/18/05, including the Blue Ribbon Brownie Recipe and a sad note added this evening, 8/27/05.
Wondering, if tomatoes are acidic, -- are they? -- would not sugar make them less acidic, would that be adjusting the ph? or not?
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Like I said. Sugar will not make them less acidic. It will make them taste less so, perhaps. It will not change the pH. To make them less acidic, stir in a dusting of baking soda. That will raise the pH. I do that to my spaghetti sauce for my table. (I don't can it; I freeze mine.)
And as far as being acidic, they are now considered to be *borderline* "acid" as far as suitability for boiling water bath processing when home canned. Current instructions are to add acid to each jar (lemon juice, vinegar, or citric acid‹amounts vary with jar size and which acid product you choose) before filling the jar with the tomato product. -- -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Several notes since 8/18/05, including the Blue Ribbon Brownie Recipe and a sad note added this evening, 8/27/05.
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> When something tastes to acidic, it seems that some sugar makes it > more bearable. > > I was just wondering....does sugar actually affect the PH or is it > just one of those "mind tricks"?
It just makes it taste sweeter; it doesn't increase the pH. -- -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Several notes since 8/18/05, including the Blue Ribbon Brownie Recipe and a sad note added this evening, 8/27/05.
Wondering, if tomatoes are acidic, -- are they? -- would not sugar make them less acidic, would that be adjusting the ph? or not?
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Like I said. Sugar will not make them less acidic. It will make them taste less so, perhaps. It will not change the pH. To make them less acidic, stir in a dusting of baking soda. That will raise the pH. I do that to my spaghetti sauce for my table. (I don't can it; I freeze mine.)
And as far as being acidic, they are now considered to be *borderline* "acid" as far as suitability for boiling water bath processing when home canned. Current instructions are to add acid to each jar (lemon juice, vinegar, or citric acid‹amounts vary with jar size and which acid product you choose) before filling the jar with the tomato product.
My parents alwayso pressure canned tomatoes, but then they pressure canned almost everything. They rarely BWB'd anything. Don't know what made them decide to do that, though.
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> When something tastes to acidic, it seems that some sugar > makes it more bearable. > > I was just wondering....does sugar actually affect the PH or is it just > one > of those "mind tricks"?
It just makes it taste sweeter; it doesn't increase the pH. -- -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Several notes since 8/18/05, including the Blue Ribbon Brownie Recipe and a sad note added this evening, 8/27/05.
Wondering, if tomatoes are acidic, -- are they? -- would not sugar make them less acidic, would that be adjusting the ph? or not?
sugar won't affect the pH of anything because it doesn't give up or accept hydrogen ions, end of story
I can't really recall on those little urine test strips that one measures their own body's pH, whether it states that if a person eats sugar (or sweets), if that will raise or lower their pH. But I guess there is a difference between a 'picked' (not so alive) tomato and an alive human, as to the effect (affect?) sugar has on the pH. Hmmm. Dee Dee
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"Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, "Michael" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> When something tastes to acidic, it seems that some sugar >> makes it more bearable. >> >> I was just wondering....does sugar actually affect the PH or is it >> just one of those "mind tricks"? > > It just makes it taste sweeter; it doesn't increase the pH. > -- > -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Several notes since 8/18/05, > including the Blue Ribbon Brownie Recipe and a sad note added this > evening, 8/27/05.
Wondering, if tomatoes are acidic, -- are they? -- would not sugar make them less acidic, would that be adjusting the ph? or not?
sugar won't affect the pH of anything because it doesn't give up or accept hydrogen ions, end of story
I can't really recall on those little urine test strips that one measures their own body's pH, whether it states that if a person eats sugar (or sweets), if that will raise or lower their pH. But I guess there is a difference between a 'picked' (not so alive) tomato and an alive human, as to the effect (affect?) sugar has on the pH. Hmmm. Dee Dee
Are you confusing the ketone test strips with the blood glucose test strips? AFAIK, sugar consumption has little if any effect on PH iin the human body, but it definitely can alter the blood glucose levels.
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[email hidden] writes: > >"Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> In article <[email hidden]>, "Michael" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >>> When something tastes to acidic, it seems that some sugar >>> makes it more bearable. >>> >>> I was just wondering....does sugar actually affect the PH or is it >>> just one of those "mind tricks"? >> >> It just makes it taste sweeter; it doesn't increase the pH. >> -- >> -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Several notes since 8/18/05, >> including the Blue Ribbon Brownie Recipe and a sad note added this >> evening, 8/27/05. > >Wondering, if tomatoes are acidic, -- are they? -- would not sugar make >them less acidic, would that be adjusting the ph? or not?
sugar won't affect the pH of anything because it doesn't give up or accept hydrogen ions, end of story
I can't really recall on those little urine test strips that one measures their own body's pH, whether it states that if a person eats sugar (or sweets), if that will raise or lower their pH. But I guess there is a difference between a 'picked' (not so alive) tomato and an alive human, as to the effect (affect?) sugar has on the pH. Hmmm. Dee Dee
Are you confusing the ketone test strips with the blood glucose test strips? AFAIK, sugar consumption has little if any effect on PH iin the human body, but it definitely can alter the blood glucose levels.
-- Wayne Boatwright *¿*
Thank you. I probably am confusing both (but know what both are), thinking that sugar consumed might have some lowering/raising effect on the pH (ketone test strips). My cousin (who had cancer) was trying them (ketone) because he heard that pH of the body should be normal and he was monitoring it every day while watching his food intake. I couldn't remember if sugar consumed had any effect on pH of your body. Dee Dee
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"tert in seattle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > [email hidden] writes: >> >>"Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:[email hidden]... >>> In article <[email hidden]>, "Michael" >>> <[email hidden]> wrote: >>> >>>> When something tastes to acidic, it seems that some sugar >>>> makes it more bearable. >>>> >>>> I was just wondering....does sugar actually affect the PH or is it >>>> just one of those "mind tricks"? >>> >>> It just makes it taste sweeter; it doesn't increase the pH. >>> -- >>> -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Several notes since 8/18/05, >>> including the Blue Ribbon Brownie Recipe and a sad note added this >>> evening, 8/27/05. >> >>Wondering, if tomatoes are acidic, -- are they? -- would not sugar >>make them less acidic, would that be adjusting the ph? or not? > > sugar won't affect the pH of anything because it doesn't give up or > accept hydrogen ions, end of story > I can't really recall on those little urine test strips that one measures their own body's pH, whether it states that if a person eats sugar (or sweets), if that will raise or lower their pH. But I guess there is a difference between a 'picked' (not so alive) tomato and an alive human, as to the effect (affect?) sugar has on the pH. Hmmm. Dee Dee
Are you confusing the ketone test strips with the blood glucose test strips? AFAIK, sugar consumption has little if any effect on PH iin the human body, but it definitely can alter the blood glucose levels.
-- Wayne Boatwright *¿*
Thank you. I probably am confusing both (but know what both are), thinking that sugar consumed might have some lowering/raising effect on the pH (ketone test strips). My cousin (who had cancer) was trying them (ketone) because he heard that pH of the body should be normal and he was monitoring it every day while watching his food intake. I couldn't remember if sugar consumed had any effect on pH of your body. Dee Dee
There may be some correlation. This is an interesting site with a similar focus...
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> sugar won't affect the pH of anything because it doesn't give up or > accept hydrogen ions, end of story > I can't really recall on those little urine test strips that one measures their own body's pH, whether it states that if a person eats sugar (or sweets), if that will raise or lower their pH. But I guess there is a difference between a 'picked' (not so alive) tomato and an alive human, as to the effect (affect?) sugar has on the pH. Hmmm. Dee Dee
Are you confusing the ketone test strips with the blood glucose test strips? AFAIK, sugar consumption has little if any effect on PH iin the human body, but it definitely can alter the blood glucose levels.
-- Wayne Boatwright *?*
Thank you. I probably am confusing both (but know what both are), thinking that sugar consumed might have some lowering/raising effect on the pH (ketone test strips). My cousin (who had cancer) was trying them (ketone) because he heard that pH of the body should be normal and he was monitoring it every day while watching his food intake. I couldn't remember if sugar consumed had any effect on pH of your body. Dee Dee
Urine pH will tell you nothing about your physiological pH (which should be at 7.4 within a very narrow range). Nothing you eat other than poisons could move your physiological pH very far from that target unless you have a serious medical condition.
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> > "tert in seattle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> [email hidden] writes: >>> >>>"Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>news:[email hidden]... >>>> In article <[email hidden]>, "Michael" >>>> <[email hidden]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> When something tastes to acidic, it seems that some sugar >>>>> makes it more bearable. >>>>> >>>>> I was just wondering....does sugar actually affect the PH or is it >>>>> just one of those "mind tricks"? >>>> >>>> It just makes it taste sweeter; it doesn't increase the pH. >>>> -- >>>> -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Several notes since 8/18/05, >>>> including the Blue Ribbon Brownie Recipe and a sad note added this >>>> evening, 8/27/05. >>> >>>Wondering, if tomatoes are acidic, -- are they? -- would not sugar >>>make them less acidic, would that be adjusting the ph? or not? >> >> sugar won't affect the pH of anything because it doesn't give up or >> accept hydrogen ions, end of story >> > I can't really recall on those little urine test strips that one > measures their own body's pH, whether it states that if a person eats > sugar (or sweets), if that will raise or lower their pH. But I guess > there is a difference between a 'picked' (not so alive) tomato and an > alive human, as to the effect (affect?) sugar has on the pH. Hmmm. > Dee Dee
Are you confusing the ketone test strips with the blood glucose test strips? AFAIK, sugar consumption has little if any effect on PH iin the human body, but it definitely can alter the blood glucose levels.
-- Wayne Boatwright *¿*
Thank you. I probably am confusing both (but know what both are), thinking that sugar consumed might have some lowering/raising effect on the pH (ketone test strips). My cousin (who had cancer) was trying them (ketone) because he heard that pH of the body should be normal and he was monitoring it every day while watching his food intake. I couldn't remember if sugar consumed had any effect on pH of your body. Dee Dee
There may be some correlation. This is an interesting site with a similar focus...
