another robochallenge update

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} said:

290.5/143/137 monthly-goal: 4 month-start: 147.5 since:
19/04/2004

So Nicole, have you just stopped eating this month?

I'm joking of course. Your progress on your last few pounds
to lose has been amazing. Keep it up.

--
JJ.
275/180/180 - as of February 18, 2005 (adjusted target
weight)
Atkins since Sep 1, 2003
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jjsmythe/my_photos
1, 2, 3...98, 99, 100. Done!

JJ said:

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} said:

290.5/143/137 monthly-goal: 4 month-start: 147.5 since:
19/04/2004

So Nicole, have you just stopped eating this month?

I'm joking of course. Your progress on your last few pounds
to lose has been amazing. Keep it up.

Thanks JJ. Weird thing is I'm upping my carbs, too, so I can start
finding my maintenance level. I'm at 50 grams net now, and still
losing. Love it!!

Nicole

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Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} said:

JJ said:

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} said:

290.5/143/137 monthly-goal: 4 month-start: 147.5 since:
19/04/2004

So Nicole, have you just stopped eating this month?

I'm joking of course. Your progress on your last few pounds
to lose has been amazing. Keep it up.

Thanks JJ. Weird thing is I'm upping my carbs, too, so I can start
finding my maintenance level. I'm at 50 grams net now, and still
losing. Love it!!

Nicole

You are the lucky one. ;-)

Congrats!!!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

290.5/143/137 monthly-goal: 4 month-start: 147.5 since: 19/04/2004

You are doing so great! I'm really happy for you.

I, OTOH, am doing abysmally. And I'm really discouraged.

See, I've tried various diets all my life (I'm 53) and always I could
lose weight, and always when I stopped 'dieting' I'd gain back all the
weight I lost, and then some.

What excited me so much about low-carbing was that it was a WOE. It was
only necessary to follow a few basic rules, and the weight just fell off.
Well, I'm still following the rules, but the weight is creeping back up
again.

Believe me, I know what's wrong. I'm eating too much. Low-carb food is
still food, and must be eaten in moderation. The part that I find so
discouraging is that I had *hoped* that I wouldn't have to count calories
any more. Just keep track of the total carbs, keep it under <insert
number here> and voila! weight loss.

ARgh. I guess I'm going to have to go back to recording every friggin'
morsel that goes in, weighing everything, keeping track. The trouble is
that while I can do that for short periods, six to twelve months at a
time, I can't do it forever. I'm just not built that way.

Damn, damn, damn.

Chak

--

242/205/150

Chakolate said:

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} <[email hidden]>
wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

290.5/143/137 monthly-goal: 4 month-start: 147.5 since:
19/04/2004

You are doing so great! I'm really happy for you.

I, OTOH, am doing abysmally. And I'm really discouraged.

See, I've tried various diets all my life (I'm 53) and
always I could
lose weight, and always when I stopped 'dieting' I'd gain
back all the
weight I lost, and then some.

53? I have always visualized you as a 23 year old grad
student.

Anyway, don't despair. You know what you need to do, so
let's get started doing it already :-)

Take care.

--
JJ.
275/180/180 - as of February 18, 2005 (adjusted target
weight)
Atkins since Sep 1, 2003
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jjsmythe/my_photos
1, 2, 3...98, 99, 100. Done!

Chakolate said:

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

290.5/143/137 monthly-goal: 4 month-start: 147.5 since: 19/04/2004

You are doing so great! I'm really happy for you.

I, OTOH, am doing abysmally. And I'm really discouraged.

See, I've tried various diets all my life (I'm 53) and always I could
lose weight, and always when I stopped 'dieting' I'd gain back all the
weight I lost, and then some.

What excited me so much about low-carbing was that it was a WOE. It was
only necessary to follow a few basic rules, and the weight just fell off.
Well, I'm still following the rules, but the weight is creeping back up
again.

Believe me, I know what's wrong. I'm eating too much. Low-carb food is
still food, and must be eaten in moderation. The part that I find so
discouraging is that I had *hoped* that I wouldn't have to count calories
any more. Just keep track of the total carbs, keep it under <insert
number here> and voila! weight loss.

ARgh. I guess I'm going to have to go back to recording every friggin'
morsel that goes in, weighing everything, keeping track. The trouble is
that while I can do that for short periods, six to twelve months at a
time, I can't do it forever. I'm just not built that way.

Damn, damn, damn.

Chak

Awwwww 🙁 Dont' be discouraged. It's not an easy road. I stopped
losing, and realized I had slipped into the thinking that I didn't
have to worry about calories. As it turns out, I have to watch those,
too. For the past 16 months, I've counted and weighed every morsel
that went into my mouth. I don't intend to start now. It's not always
easy. Sometimes it's a pain in the butt. It's necessary... at least
for me.

Keep at it!!

Hugs,
Nicole

"Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin}" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On 20 Aug 2005 22:03:42 GMT, Chakolate
<[email hidden]> wrote:

[snip]

Quoted message said:

For the past 16 months, I've counted and weighed every morsel
that went into my mouth. I don't intend to start now. It's not always
easy. Sometimes it's a pain in the butt. It's necessary... at least
for me.

Keep at it!!

Hugs,
Nicole

I have been watching your posts, and your progress on Robo. This is the
first I recall your mentioning the calorie counting. I had recognized that
we both had the same kind of steady progress. I too try to weigh and record
every bit of food. I use the Fitday download. My only real source of
error, I think, is dining out.

Bravo!

Cubit

Cubit said:

"Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin}" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On 20 Aug 2005 22:03:42 GMT, Chakolate
<[email hidden]> wrote:

[snip]

Quoted message said:

For the past 16 months, I've counted and weighed every morsel
that went into my mouth. I don't intend to start now. It's not always
easy. Sometimes it's a pain in the butt. It's necessary... at least
for me.

Keep at it!!

Hugs,
Nicole

I have been watching your posts, and your progress on Robo. This is the
first I recall your mentioning the calorie counting. I had recognized that
we both had the same kind of steady progress. I too try to weigh and record
every bit of food. I use the Fitday download. My only real source of
error, I think, is dining out.

Bravo!

Cubit

For a long time I wasn't concerned with the calories. Then I stopped
losing and had to figure out what was going on. Well, turns out my
calories were sneaking WAY up... it was the nuts. Well, I figured that
out and cut my calories down. Started losing again. I had also given
in to hot dogs... high calories, lots of salt. Convenience foods. I
cut that out, limited my cheese to NO more than 3 oz per day.. and
viola! I lose again.

I watch you, too. You're an inspiration. Thank you. Glad we're on
this journey together 🙂

Congrats to us *both*!!

Nicole

"JJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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53? I have always visualized you as a 23 year old grad
student.

Nah, I'm a 53 year old grad student. Imagine dealing with grad school,
diabetes and menopause all at once, and you have my life. :-)

Chak

--
Can you imagine a world without men? No crime and lots of happy fat
women.
--Nicole Hollander

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Awwwww 🙁 Dont' be discouraged. It's not an easy road. I stopped
losing, and realized I had slipped into the thinking that I didn't
have to worry about calories. As it turns out, I have to watch those,
too. For the past 16 months, I've counted and weighed every morsel
that went into my mouth. I don't intend to start now. It's not always
easy. Sometimes it's a pain in the butt. It's necessary... at least
for me.

So what will you do when you have lost all the weight you want? Will you
continue to count calories? That's my nightmare. I know I can, for a
while, but I also know I'll stop someday and the weight will come back.

But you're right, of course. If I must count calories, then count
calories I shall.

You really are in inspiration to me, you know.

Chak

--
Can you imagine a world without men? No crime and lots of happy fat
women.
--Nicole Hollander

Chakolate said:

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Awwwww 🙁 Dont' be discouraged. It's not an easy road. I stopped
losing, and realized I had slipped into the thinking that I didn't
have to worry about calories. As it turns out, I have to watch those,
too. For the past 16 months, I've counted and weighed every morsel
that went into my mouth. I don't intend to start now. It's not always
easy. Sometimes it's a pain in the butt. It's necessary... at least
for me.

So what will you do when you have lost all the weight you want? Will you
continue to count calories? That's my nightmare. I know I can, for a
while, but I also know I'll stop someday and the weight will come back.

But you're right, of course. If I must count calories, then count
calories I shall.

You really are in inspiration to me, you know.

Chak

I've been thinking ahead to when I reach my goal weight, and I'm not
going to necessarily *count* calories forever, but I am going to count
carbs, and avoid the "high calorie" foods. I don't ever want to go
back.

Thank you for the compliment, btw. If I can inspire anyone, I'm happy.
🙂

Nicole
290.5/143/137 monthly-goal: 4 month-start: 147.5 since: 19/04/2004

Chakolate said:

"JJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Nah, I'm a 53 year old grad student. Imagine dealing with
grad
school, diabetes and menopause all at once, and you have
my life. :-)

Chak

So how are you doing this week? You were in the dumps a bit
last week.

Stick with your diet, if only to help as best possible with
the diabetes.

I can't help with the menopause, but I could use some advice
as to how to be considerate of my wife as she has begun the
start of this phase of her life.

I figure that you are in grad school by choice so you can't
complain about that ;-)

Take care.

--
JJ.
275/180/180 - as of February 18, 2005 (adjusted target
weight)
Atkins since Sep 1, 2003
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jjsmythe/my_photos
1, 2, 3...98, 99, 100. Done!

Hot flashes are triggered by heat so don't put a hot hand on her in the
middle of the night. Speaking from experience here.

In news:[email hidden],
JJ <[email hidden]> stated
|
| So how are you doing this week? You were in the dumps a bit
| last week.
|
| Stick with your diet, if only to help as best possible with
| the diabetes.
|
| I can't help with the menopause, but I could use some advice
| as to how to be considerate of my wife as she has begun the
| start of this phase of her life.
|
| I figure that you are in grad school by choice so you can't
| complain about that ;-)
|
| Take care.

"JJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I can't help with the menopause, but I could use some advice
as to how to be considerate of my wife as she has begun the
start of this phase of her life.

Say, "Yes, dear."

--
No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

"JJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

So how are you doing this week? You were in the dumps a bit
last week.

This week school has started again, and I'm totally energized by it. My
menofog seems to have lifted, and understanding the rarefied concepts of
a 500-level math course is actually possible again. Yay!

Quoted message said:

Stick with your diet, if only to help as best possible with
the diabetes.

Actually, with low-carbing, I can keep my sugar under very good control
even if I gain weight. Low carbing *rocks* for diabetics.

I've decided to start recording everything again, and actively work at
losing again. Now that school is back in session, it will be easier,
since I won't have time to obsess about food. :-)

Quoted message said:

I can't help with the menopause, but I could use some advice
as to how to be considerate of my wife as she has begun the
start of this phase of her life.

The most important thing is to recognize that her body, which she thought
she knew pretty well, has decided to pull the rug out from under her, and
the only sure thing is that nothing is sure. So if there are mood
swings, try not to take them personally. (Also be aware that rolling
your eyes or suggesting her anger is due to hormones is a game that makes
Russian Roulette seem sensible in comparison.)

And if she likes usenet, have her come on over to alt.support.menopause,
where there are a large number of mostly civilized women who can at least
sympathize, and probably help. Or you can come yourself, if you like.
We almost never castrate male visitors, at least not until they've shown
too much insensitivity. ;-)

Quoted message said:

I figure that you are in grad school by choice so you can't
complain about that ;-)

It isn't a bad thing to be in grad school, in fact, it's great, but it
does complicate things sometimes. (<-------- bigtime understatement)

Chak

--
First say to yourself what you would be, then do what you have to do.
-- Epictetus

Chakolate said:

This week school has started again, and I'm totally
energized by it.
My menofog seems to have lifted, and understanding the
rarefied
concepts of a 500-level math course is actually possible
again. Yay!

My formal education is mechanical engineering so I can
identify with the math, but I've no desire to do the work to
earn a grad degree. That may change, who knows. What
degree are you after?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Stick with your diet, if only to help as best possible
with
the diabetes.

Actually, with low-carbing, I can keep my sugar under very
good
control even if I gain weight. Low carbing *rocks* for
diabetics.

Remember, I didn't say good luck on your weight loss, just
stick with your diet.

Quoted message said:

The most important thing is to recognize that her body,
which she
thought she knew pretty well, has decided to pull the rug
out from
under her, and the only sure thing is that nothing is
sure. So if
there are mood swings, try not to take them personally.
(Also be
aware that rolling your eyes or suggesting her anger is
due to
hormones is a game that makes Russian Roulette seem
sensible in
comparison.)

Thanks for that advice, and the advice others have already
offered. So far as moods go; I got yelled at for emptying
the garbage once. Is that a bad sign?

Quoted message said:

And if she likes usenet, have her come on over to
alt.support.menopause, where there are a large number of
mostly
civilized women who can at least sympathize, and probably
help. Or
you can come yourself, if you like. We almost never
castrate male
visitors, at least not until they've shown too much
insensitivity.
;-)

Me? Insensitive? I truly try hard never to be insenstive,
though I'm not always successful. I'll suggest this group
to my wife but she has never been a usenet user. I may go
lurk for a while to see what else I can learn.

Quoted message said:

It isn't a bad thing to be in grad school, in fact, it's
great, but it
does complicate things sometimes. (<-------- bigtime
understatement)

Just think about how good it will feel when it is over.

--
JJ.
275/180/180 - as of February 18, 2005 (adjusted target
weight)
Atkins since Sep 1, 2003
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jjsmythe/my_photos
1, 2, 3...98, 99, 100. Done!

"JJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

My formal education is mechanical engineering so I can
identify with the math, but I've no desire to do the work to
earn a grad degree. That may change, who knows. What
degree are you after?

A Master's is all one needs to teach college math, and that's what I want
to do.

Quoted message said:

Thanks for that advice, and the advice others have already
offered. So far as moods go; I got yelled at for emptying
the garbage once. Is that a bad sign?

How many times were you supposed to empty it? <grin> Seriously, a sense
of humor is a truly life-saving device at this time of life, for both of
you.

Quoted message said:

Me? Insensitive? I truly try hard never to be insenstive,
though I'm not always successful. I'll suggest this group
to my wife but she has never been a usenet user. I may go
lurk for a while to see what else I can learn.

You are most welcome.

Quoted message said:

Just think about how good it will feel when it is over.

Actually, I think I'll feel both elated and sad when grad school is over.
I have truly loved coming back to school, as only an adult can. :-)

Chak

--
First say to yourself what you would be, then do what you have to do.
-- Epictetus

290.5/140.5/137 monthly-goal: 4 month-start: 147.5 since: 19/04/2004

"JJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Thanks for that advice, and the advice others have already
offered. So far as moods go; I got yelled at for emptying
the garbage once. Is that a bad sign?

Just agree with her that you're a jerk, she's always right, and you're
sorry. I can't agree with Chak more, do NOT ever roll your eyes.

--
No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes