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  1. Managed to get a serious bargain from eBay - 2x michelin axial pro lites for £18.... (those funky
    giro d italia ones).

    As im out injurerd at the moment, thought I would spend my sunday morning putting my new tyres on.

    It took nearly 3 hours!!! was putting them on my shimano 105 wheels, and I managed to put a hole
    through 2 inner tubes, scratch the pretty graphics on the rims, and scrape the skin off two nuckles
    in the process - as you can porbably guess this was my first attempt at fitting folding tyres - at
    least I got there in the end.

    Any tips for this, recommendations for tyre levers -ie ones that dont ping off into your eye just
    when you think you are about to get that last 5 cms on tire onto the rim......:-).

    Its very embarassing that I can break a chain, fit a full gruppo, even true a wheel but I cant
    fit tyres!!!

    tia

    Chris

  2. "Turkey Tickler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Any tips for this, recommendations for tyre levers -ie ones that dont ping off into your eye just
    when you think you are about to get that last 5 cms on tire onto the rim

    ONTO the rim??

    I'm not sure how a lever would help get a tyre ONTO a rim! I always thought they were for
    getting the OFF.

  3. Adrian Boliston said:

    "Turkey Tickler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Any tips for this, recommendations for tyre levers -ie ones that dont ping off into your eye just
    when you think you are about to get that last 5 cms on tire onto the rim

    ONTO the rim??

    I'm not sure how a lever would help get a tyre ONTO a rim! I always thought they were for getting
    the OFF.

    Surely the diameter of the inside of the tyre has to be smaller than the diamater of the rim lips?
    Therefore sometimes a tyre lever is useful for just levering over that last little bith that is
    reluctant to pop over the lip.

    --
    Dnc

  4. "Doesnotcompute" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Adrian Boliston said:

    "Turkey Tickler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Any tips for this, recommendations for tyre levers -ie ones that dont


    ping

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    off into your eye just when you think you are about to get that last 5


    cms

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    on tire onto the rim

    ONTO the rim??

    I'm not sure how a lever would help get a tyre ONTO a rim! I always thought they were for
    getting the OFF.

    Surely the diameter of the inside of the tyre has to be smaller than the diamater of the rim lips?
    Therefore sometimes a tyre lever is useful for just levering over that last little bith that is
    reluctant to pop over the lip.


    It's normally easier to put them on than get them off.

    If you make sure the opposite side of the tyre that is already on the wheel is sitting in the
    central recessed/well area it is much easier.

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    --
    Dnc

  5. Turkey Tickler - typed:

    Quoted message said:

    Managed to get a serious bargain from eBay - 2x michelin axial pro lites for £18.... (those funky
    giro d italia ones).

    As im out injurerd at the moment, thought I would spend my sunday morning putting my new tyres on.

    It took nearly 3 hours!!! was putting them on my shimano 105 wheels, and I managed to put a hole
    through 2 inner tubes, scratch the pretty graphics on the rims, and scrape the skin off two
    nuckles in the process - as you can porbably guess this was my first attempt at fitting folding
    tyres - at least I got there in the end.

    Any tips for this, recommendations for tyre levers -ie ones that dont ping off into your eye just
    when you think you are about to get that last 5 cms on tire onto the rim......:-).

    Its very embarassing that I can break a chain, fit a full gruppo, even true a wheel but I cant fit
    tyres!!!

    tia

    Chris

    I still use my old MTB Pedro Milk Levers (24mm wide). I found my old Conti Grand Prix folders very
    easy but some tyres & rim combos are pigs. I completely deflate to get the last bit on. Washing up
    liquid will lubricate the last bit of bead or try spittle in the field. For really stubborn combos
    or when freezing fingers are too numb, carry a tyre jack.

    Using tyre levers can be a bit of an art - I've snapped several plastic ones & the old Halfords
    steel ones can damage rims. Check out MTB levers.

    Regards

  6. cheers Paul will have a look... "Paul Busby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Turkey Tickler - typed:

    Quoted message said:

    Managed to get a serious bargain from eBay - 2x michelin axial pro lites for £18.... (those
    funky giro d italia ones).

    As im out injurerd at the moment, thought I would spend my sunday morning putting my new
    tyres on.

    It took nearly 3 hours!!! was putting them on my shimano 105 wheels, and I managed to put a hole
    through 2 inner tubes, scratch the pretty graphics on the rims, and scrape the skin off two
    nuckles in the process - as you can porbably guess this was my first attempt at fitting folding
    tyres - at least I got there in the end.

    Any tips for this, recommendations for tyre levers -ie ones that dont ping off into your eye
    just when you think you are about to get that last 5 cms on tire onto the rim......:-).

    Its very embarassing that I can break a chain, fit a full gruppo, even true a wheel but I cant
    fit tyres!!!

    tia

    Chris

    I still use my old MTB Pedro Milk Levers (24mm wide). I found my old Conti Grand Prix folders very
    easy but some tyres & rim combos are pigs. I completely deflate to get the last bit on. Washing up
    liquid will lubricate the last bit of bead or try spittle in the field. For really stubborn combos
    or when freezing fingers are too numb, carry a tyre jack.

    Using tyre levers can be a bit of an art - I've snapped several plastic ones & the old Halfords
    steel ones can damage rims. Check out MTB levers.

    Regards

  7. thats what i was using it for :-) "Doesnotcompute" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Adrian Boliston said:

    "Turkey Tickler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Any tips for this, recommendations for tyre levers -ie ones that dont


    ping

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    off into your eye just when you think you are about to get that last 5


    cms

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on tire onto the rim

    ONTO the rim??

    I'm not sure how a lever would help get a tyre ONTO a rim! I always thought they were for
    getting the OFF.

    Surely the diameter of the inside of the tyre has to be smaller than the diamater of the rim lips?
    Therefore sometimes a tyre lever is useful for just levering over that last little bith that is
    reluctant to pop over the lip.

    --
    Dnc

  8. Adrian Boliston said:

    I'm not sure how a lever would help get a tyre ONTO a rim! I always thought they were for getting
    the OFF.

    That's the idea, yes, but some tyres are so tight that there's no choice.

    ~PB

  9. Turkey Tickler said:

    Managed to get a serious bargain from eBay - 2x michelin axial pro lites for £18.... (those funky
    giro d italia ones).

    It took nearly 3 hours!!!

    That's partly why I pay £12 extra a pair for Vittoria Open Corsas (23). They take a few
    seconds to fit.

    Quoted message said:

    Any tips for this, recommendations for tyre levers -ie ones that dont ping off into your eye just
    when you think you are about to get that last 5 cms on tire onto the rim......:-).

    One fitting tip is to try and get the beads sitting on the middle of the rim (while fitting) where
    the diameter is a bit smaller down the well.

    For ordinary-type levers, ones from Dyasons and some Specialized ones are better than most. VAR
    make a special two-pronged lever for tight tyres - available from
    www.sjscycles.com/store/vIndex.htm , etc.

    ~PB

  10. One very useful tip on refitting is to parshally inflate the new inner tube as this keeps it out of
    the way inside the tyre and out of reach of your tyre levers as you refit the last 7-8 inches.

    TJ

  11. There was an interesting comparison of wide (25mm) tyres in July's edition of Tour (German cycling
    magazine). The interesting thing from the point of view of this discussion was that for each of the
    15 tyres listed they specified whether the tyre could be fitted without tools.

    Of the Michelin tires listed the Pro Race is described as being capable of fitting without tools,
    but not the Axial Carbon, which presumably is similar to the Axial Lite.

    Full results were:

    Tire Tools Required? Continental Grand Prix 2000, No Continental Grand Prix 4-Season, No Hutchinson
    Carbon Comp Black, Yes Michelin Pro Race, No Michelin Axial Carbon, Yes Panaracer Stradius Pro, No
    Panaracer Stradius Sport, Yes Specialized S-Works Mondo, No Specialized S-Works All Condition, No
    Specialized Pro All Condition, No Schwalbe Stelvio, No Schwalbe Stelvio Rain, No Vredestein
    Fortezza, No Vredestein Volante, No

    NB. The 700x25 variant of the above tyres was tested.

    The primary focus of the review was on resistance to punctures; both Continental and Michelin tyres,
    the Panaracer Stradius Pro, the Specialized S-Works All Condition, the Schwalbe Stelvio Rain and the
    Vredestein Fortezza all acquitted themselves well in that regard.

    My personal experience only extends as far as the two Continental tyres and the Michelin Axial. The
    listed Continentals (unlike the Continental Top Touring), and are indeed wonderfully easy to fit,
    much easier than the Axial.

    Roger Fretwell

    "TJ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    One very useful tip on refitting is to parshally inflate the new inner


    tube

    Quoted message said:

    as this keeps it out of the way inside the tyre and out of reach of your tyre levers as you refit
    the last 7-8 inches.

    TJ

  12. Roger Fretwell said:

    There was an interesting comparison of wide (25mm) tyres in July's edition of Tour (German cycling
    magazine). The interesting thing from the point of view of this discussion was that for each of
    the 15 tyres listed they specified whether the tyre could be fitted without tools.

    Of the Michelin tires listed the Pro Race is described as being capable of fitting without tools,
    but not the Axial Carbon, which presumably is similar to the Axial Lite.

    Ease of fitting and removal partly depends on the rim because rim diameter actually varies from
    model to model (even though it's not supposed to). Still, the list is useful for comparisons. I'll
    be keeping it! Thanks.

    ~PB

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