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  1. Wed, 24 Aug 2005:
    Subject: Wow!

    Dear Michael,

    What a truly spontaneous, honest and gutsy website. A breath of fresh air and a
    kick in the butt to boot! I am moved by your passion and fearless commitment.

    With your permission I would like to feature your website (with a link along
    with my recommendations) on my website and next newsletter.

    I learned and am learning a lot from your website. My partner and I have been
    sharing a car since our first car broke down. I had been reluctant to get
    another - due to the obvious environmental. impact, and now I am even more
    inspired that I did not. Instead both he and I got bought bicycles to ride
    around town. I was already aware of the horrors and damage of mt. bikes to
    nature - I would love to send you some photos of hillsides torn to shreds just
    north of Santa Fe. If I can get out that way, I will take some photos. I could
    post them on my website and if you want any I could send them along.

    It was great to read the detailed info. on your site. I've seen the erosion
    here in the Mts. of Santa Fe, just from treaded shoes/hiking boots. I went
    barefoot for years in the jungles of Australia, and now while hiking, I wear
    only a thin moccasin to avoid the dreaded and disgusting dog [censored] on the trails
    - that people don't pick up.

    I was interested in your info on rafting and am going to read more as to how it
    affects the environment. I have only ever been on two raft trips and I see the
    obvious - invasion (camping and all of it's ramifications) of humans driving
    wildlife from their habitat. But I will read more to learn what else you have
    to say about it.

    I am excited about your work and what I can learn from your website.

    Thank you Michael,

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  2. Mike Vandeman said:

    Wed, 24 Aug 2005:
    Subject: Wow!

    Liar. Making up emails again are you mikey. Pathetic really.

  3. Mike Vandeman wrote:
    {"Someone else" supposedly wrote:}

    Quoted message said:

    ...
    I learned and am learning a lot from your website. My partner and I
    have been sharing a car since our first car broke down.

    The do(r)c sure seems to attract alternative lifestyle types, doesn't he?
    (Not that there's anything /wrong/ with that.)

    Quoted message said:

    It was great to read the detailed info. on your site. I've seen the
    erosion here in the Mts. of Santa Fe, just from treaded shoes/hiking
    boots.

    FINALLY, THE TRUTH!!!

    Thank you for mentioning how selfish and destructive your chosen sport is,
    do(r)c. Your honesty is refreshing (some would say, cataclysmic).

    Enlightened, BS

  4. How come I keep doing a "Block Sender" on this [censored] and yet he keeps
    getting through ?

    If anyone knows how to lose posts from this guy please help !

    Thanks

  5. adam said:

    How come I keep doing a "Block Sender" on this [censored] and yet he keeps
    getting through ?

    If anyone knows how to lose posts from this guy please help !

    Make sure you block him in /News/ and not just Mail.


  6. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    How come I keep doing a "Block Sender" on this [censored] and yet he keeps
    getting through ?

    If anyone knows how to lose posts from this guy please help !

    Make sure you block him in /News/ and not just Mail.

    You sure he's talking about Mikey?

  7. "adam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How come I keep doing a "Block Sender" on this [censored] and yet he keeps
    getting through ?

    If anyone knows how to lose posts from this guy please help !

    Thanks

    He's just entertainment, better than the newspaper comic section, besides no
    one takes him seriously.

  8. "adam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How come I keep doing a "Block Sender" on this [censored] and yet he keeps
    getting through ?

    If anyone knows how to lose posts from this guy please help !

    Thanks

    If you're using Outlook Express, I find 'create rule from message' useful.
    Have the rule delete any messages from that sender and it's like they don't
    exist.

    Well that is until someone responds to their post/spam/troll.

  9. "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Mike Vandeman wrote:
    {"Someone else" supposedly wrote:}

    Quoted message said:

    ...
    I learned and am learning a lot from your website. My partner and I
    have been sharing a car since our first car broke down.

    The do(r)c sure seems to attract alternative lifestyle types, doesn't he?
    (Not that there's anything /wrong/ with that.)

    To each his lifestyle. If Mr. Vandeman has made the same choice then there
    will be no ''evolution at work" and Mike's gene pool will cease to exist.
    One step closer to Mike's goal of a human free enviornment.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It was great to read the detailed info. on your site. I've seen the
    erosion here in the Mts. of Santa Fe, just from treaded shoes/hiking
    boots.

    FINALLY, THE TRUTH!!!

    Thank you for mentioning how selfish and destructive your chosen sport is,
    do(r)c. Your honesty is refreshing (some would say, cataclysmic).

    Enlightened, BS

  10. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Wed, 24 Aug 2005:
    Subject: Wow!

    Dear Michael,

    What a truly spontaneous, honest and gutsy website. A breath of fresh air
    and a
    kick in the butt to boot! I am moved by your passion and fearless
    commitment.

    With your permission I would like to feature your website (with a link
    along
    with my recommendations) on my website and next newsletter.

    I learned and am learning a lot from your website. My partner and I have
    been
    sharing a car since our first car broke down. I had been reluctant to get
    another - due to the obvious environmental. impact, and now I am even more
    inspired that I did not. Instead both he and I got bought bicycles to
    ride
    around town. I was already aware of the horrors and damage of mt. bikes
    to
    nature - I would love to send you some photos of hillsides torn to shreds
    just
    north of Santa Fe. If I can get out that way, I will take some photos. I
    could
    post them on my website and if you want any I could send them along.

    It was great to read the detailed info. on your site. I've seen the
    erosion
    here in the Mts. of Santa Fe, just from treaded shoes/hiking boots. I
    went
    barefoot for years in the jungles of Australia, and now while hiking, I
    wear
    only a thin moccasin to avoid the dreaded and disgusting dog [censored] on the
    trails
    - that people don't pick up.

    I was interested in your info on rafting and am going to read more as to
    how it
    affects the environment. I have only ever been on two raft trips and I
    see the
    obvious - invasion (camping and all of it's ramifications) of humans
    driving
    wildlife from their habitat. But I will read more to learn what else you
    have
    to say about it.

    I am excited about your work and what I can learn from your website.

    Thank you Michael,

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    It seems rather strange that Mike's one lone fan did not include the
    address to his hypothetical website. Maybe, Mike is writing his own fan
    mail, it's quite a coincidence that the writer has the same first name.
    When is Mike going to indentify the location where his "pure habitat'' is
    located?

  11. Mike Vandeman said:

    Wed, 24 Aug 2005:
    Subject: Wow!

    Dear Michael,

    ROTFLMAO!
    This is the funniest thing that I've seen in a long time. Mike's ego
    finally showing itself for all to see - he couldn't resist posting his
    own fan mail. Still, I guess that I'd be pretty excited after getting
    fan mail in, what?, 15 years of posting on the internet....
    --
    Westie

    PS. You gotta love the guy that wrote the letter. "Barefoot in
    Australia"! He's either a braver man than I am, or a more stupid one.

  12. "Westie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mike Vandeman said:

    Wed, 24 Aug 2005:
    Subject: Wow!

    Dear Michael,

    ROTFLMAO!
    This is the funniest thing that I've seen in a long time. Mike's ego
    finally showing itself for all to see - he couldn't resist posting his own
    fan mail. Still, I guess that I'd be pretty excited after getting fan
    mail in, what?, 15 years of posting on the internet....
    --
    Westie

    PS. You gotta love the guy that wrote the letter. "Barefoot in
    Australia"! He's either a braver man than I am, or a more stupid one.

    Sounds like the same type of mentality that Timothy Treadwell had.
    Treadwell and his girlfriend both thought grizzly bears were their friends.
    They appointed themselves as protectors of the grizzlys and in the end were
    killed by the same grizzlys they were protecting. Wonder if Mike is going
    to establish his "pure habitat" in Alaska.........

  13. Sohn said:


    Sounds like the same type of mentality that Timothy Treadwell had.

    I was listening to NPR and they were playing some recordings of
    Treadwell ... and to me he sounded a lot like Mr. Rogers ...
    "Mr. Chocolate is does not seem to be happy today ... are you Mr.
    Chocolate?"

    In the old days of Saturday Night Live, the writers would have had
    a wonder time playing up the similaries ...
    "Mr. Chocolate just bit my arm off ... that wasn't very nice of you
    Mr. Chocolate ... now Mr. Timothy is going to scream in agony and
    died."

  14. On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:32:05 +0100, "adam" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    ..How come I keep doing a "Block Sender" on this [censored] and yet he keeps
    ..getting through ?
    ..
    ..If anyone knows how to lose posts from this guy please help !
    ..
    ..Thanks

    Because you are an idiot, obviously.
    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  15. Mike Vandeman said:

    Wed, 24 Aug 2005:
    Subject: Wow!

    Dear Michael,

    What a truly spontaneous, honest and gutsy website. A breath of fresh air and a
    kick in the butt to boot! I am moved by your passion and fearless commitment.

    and blatantly obvious insanity...

    Quoted message said:


    With your permission I would like to feature your website (with a link along
    with my recommendations) on my website and next newsletter.

    It'll be too cool. Two environmental nuts feeding one another's
    delusions. We'll be unstoppable. We can spread the word, make everyone
    love one another, save the environment, and force our opinions and
    beliefs onto other people.

    Quoted message said:


    I learned and am learning a lot from your website. My partner and I have been
    sharing a car since our first car broke down.

    And before it broke down it was so badly maintained that it had been
    spewing clouds of inefficiently burnt hydrocarbons into the atmossphere.

    Quoted message said:

    I had been reluctant to get
    another - due to the obvious environmental. impact, and now I am even more
    inspired that I did not.

    Now we just drive the inefficient and badly tuned second car (the one
    that we didn't really need in the first place) instead of really
    practicing what we are preaching and using public transport. I dumped
    the first one over a bank because, as a greenie, I'm saving the planet
    by refusing to give in to capitalist greed and making enough money to be
    able to afford to dispose of it correctly - or to buy a new
    fuel-efficent car.

    Quoted message said:

    Instead both he and I got bought bicycles to ride
    around town. I was already aware of the horrors and damage of mt. bikes to
    nature - I would love to send you some photos of hillsides torn to shreds just
    north of Santa Fe. If I can get out that way, I will take some photos. I could
    post them on my website and if you want any I could send them along.

    If I can get out that way and ride those trails on my bike, I'll take
    some photos of the damage caused by people riding their bikes on those
    trails. It's disgusting to see the damage on and amongst those
    'naturally' eroded walking tracks, nice housing developments, bulldozer
    tracks, fencelines, power pylons, cellphone towers, introduced weed
    species, toxic tarmac covered-roads, illegal garbage dumps and wrecked
    car bodies. If we're lucky, we might see some native wildlife if the
    introduced predators haven't eaten them yet.

    Quoted message said:


    It was great to read the detailed info. on your site. I've seen the erosion
    here in the Mts. of Santa Fe, just from treaded shoes/hiking boots.

    Disgusting how tramping can cause serious damage, isn't it?

    Quoted message said:

    I went
    barefoot for years in the jungles of Australia,

    where no sane person had gone before. I saw many species of animals
    that had never seen humans before. Many tried to bite my bare feet but
    I kept on forging ahead; tramping and camping for miles into their
    territory. But of course you can't expect a redback spider or a snake
    to do anything else as a foot comes down upon it - bare or shod.

    Quoted message said:

    and now while hiking, I wear
    only a thin moccasin to avoid the dreaded and disgusting dog [censored] on the trails
    - that people don't pick up.

    After-all, I wouldn't want to help minimise the impact on the well used
    tramping trails by avoiding those over-used trails entirely. Nor would
    I actually pick up the rubbish and [censored] left behind by others - after
    all, caring for the environment is their responsibilty in the first
    place, not mine to clean up after them. You'll be pleased to know that
    the cow doesn't need it's skin anymore and cow-hide is the best material
    for [censored]-shedding moccasins.

    What reduction in impact does removing one sheep from the flock have?
    Very little of course, so I may as well continue to use the already
    over-used trails and follow the flock....

    Quoted message said:


    I was interested in your info on rafting and am going to read more as to how it
    affects the environment. I have only ever been on two raft trips and I see the
    obvious - invasion (camping and all of it's ramifications) of humans driving
    wildlife from their habitat. But I will read more to learn what else you have
    to say about it.

    I was fascinated to read that activities I repeatedly indulge in are
    damaging to the environment. It was obvious to me from the start that
    these rafting trips caused severe environmental damage - but I went on a
    second one anyway. I won't say that I'll never go rafting again either.

    Quoted message said:


    I am excited about your work and what I can learn from your website.

    I am quite insane.

    Quoted message said:


    Thank you Michael,

    ===

  16. I submit that on or about Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:39:33 GMT, the person
    known to the court as Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> made a
    statement (<[email hidden]> in Your
    Honour's bundle) to the following effect:

    Quoted message said:

    .If anyone knows how to lose posts from this guy please help !
    Because you are an idiot, obviously.

    Close. He wants to block you because /you/ are an idiot. But well
    done for finally confessing to how harmful your chosen recreation is;
    now you've put your hands up to rank hypocrisy I take it we can look
    forward to you taking your [censored] to the hiking newsgroups instead.

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  17. On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:16:58 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Wed, 24 Aug 2005:
    Subject: Wow!

    Dear Michael,

    What a truly spontaneous, honest and gutsy website. A breath of fresh air and a
    kick in the butt to boot! I am moved by your passion and fearless commitment.

    With your permission I would like to feature your website (with a link along
    with my recommendations) on my website and next newsletter.


    Good of you to protect the anonymity of a person who is putting up a
    personal website and publishing a newsletter.

    How come not a single one of your supporters is willing to be as brave
    as you and publish their name?

    How come none of your supporters has any tracable existence outside
    your postings and website?

    Why will you post the names and personal details only of people who
    disagree with you?

    And finally, why do all of your supporters use the same writing style
    as you do?

    Too bad you will ignore this message, or reply with an insult, and
    ignore these questions. You have no choice in your behavior.

    Happy trails,
    Gary (net.yogi.bear)
    --
    At the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

    Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
    Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

  18. On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:20:28 GMT, Gary S. <Idontwantspam@net> wrote:

    ..On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:16:58 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]>
    ..wrote:
    ..
    ..>Wed, 24 Aug 2005:
    ..>Subject: Wow!
    ..>
    ..>Dear Michael,
    ..>
    ..>What a truly spontaneous, honest and gutsy website. A breath of fresh air and a
    ..>kick in the butt to boot! I am moved by your passion and fearless commitment.
    ..>
    ..>With your permission I would like to feature your website (with a link along
    ..>with my recommendations) on my website and next newsletter.
    ..>
    ..Good of you to protect the anonymity of a person who is putting up a
    ..personal website and publishing a newsletter.
    ..
    ..How come not a single one of your supporters is willing to be as brave
    ..as you and publish their name?

    I didn't ask them. You know the answer to that question: anyone who tells the
    truth about mountain biking gets harassed and threatened as I have been and
    continue to be. Mountain bikers don't believe in freedom of speech.

    ..How come none of your supporters has any tracable existence outside
    ..your postings and website?

    They do. You just don't know who they are.

    ..Why will you post the names and personal details only of people who
    ..disagree with you?

    Because I know they won't get harassed and threatened, since you agree with
    them.

    ..And finally, why do all of your supporters use the same writing style
    ..as you do?

    That's BS, as you well know.

    ..Too bad you will ignore this message, or reply with an insult, and
    ..ignore these questions. You have no choice in your behavior.

    Neither is true. I just tell the truth -- something mountain bikers obviously
    can't stand.

    ..Happy trails,
    ..Gary (net.yogi.bear)

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  19. I submit that on or about Sun, 28 Aug 2005 04:51:28 GMT, the person
    known to the court as Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> made a
    statement (<[email hidden]> in Your
    Honour's bundle) to the following effect:

    Quoted message said:

    I just tell the truth

    You tell the truth about mountain biking in the same way Aryan Nation
    tell the truth about Jews and the Klan tell the truth about black
    people - i.e. a highly selective and restricted subset of the truth
    which ignores similar truths about other groups of which you are a
    member or against which you choose not to wage your impotent hate
    campaign. There is a handy word to describe the way you tell the
    truth: bigotry.

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  20. On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:04:34 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    ..I submit that on or about Sun, 28 Aug 2005 04:51:28 GMT, the person
    ..known to the court as Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> made a
    ..statement (<[email hidden]> in Your
    ..Honour's bundle) to the following effect:
    ..
    ..>I just tell the truth
    ..
    ..You tell the truth about mountain biking in the same way Aryan Nation
    ..tell the truth about Jews and the Klan tell the truth about black
    ..people - i.e. a highly selective and restricted subset of the truth
    ..which ignores similar truths about other groups of which you are a
    ..member or against which you choose not to wage your impotent hate
    ..campaign. There is a handy word to describe the way you tell the
    ..truth: bigotry.

    Okay, so you can cut and paste. Do you have any other skills?

    ..Guy

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

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