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  1. Okay, to me they are pork loin chops without bones. Whatever. These
    appeared to be thick enough to split and stuff them. Turned out they
    weren't quite thick enough. So I pounded one fairly flat (the other one
    went in the freezer for a different treatment at a later date).

    I'd previously frozen some fresh sourdough breadcrumbs (scooped out of the
    sourdough rounds that serve as "bread bowls" for my potato leek soup). I
    took a handful of those out and let them thaw, then sprinkled them with some
    rubbed sage and a little marjoram; added butter to moisten the crumbs and
    toasted them and crushed them up. I placed the crumbs in the center of the
    flattened pork. I added some leaves of fresh spinach and 3 small slices of
    Swiss cheese. Rolled the medallion up, secured it with toothpicks.
    Sprinkled the pork generously with pepper (no salt). I browned this "roll"
    in a little bit of canola oil. Then I covered the pan and let it cook on
    low heat about 20 minutes to finish off, turning it occasionally.

    It was OKAY. Nothing to brag about. In hindsight, I should have used some
    crumbled herbed Feta rather than the Swiss. And even as long as I cooked
    the roll, the spinach was still basically raw which wasn't what I was going
    for.

    Jill
    --
    I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.

  2. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Okay, to me they are pork loin chops without bones. Whatever. These
    appeared to be thick enough to split and stuff them. Turned out they
    weren't quite thick enough. So I pounded one fairly flat (the other one
    went in the freezer for a different treatment at a later date).

    I'd previously frozen some fresh sourdough breadcrumbs (scooped out of the
    sourdough rounds that serve as "bread bowls" for my potato leek soup). I
    took a handful of those out and let them thaw, then sprinkled them with some
    rubbed sage and a little marjoram; added butter to moisten the crumbs and
    toasted them and crushed them up. I placed the crumbs in the center of the
    flattened pork. I added some leaves of fresh spinach and 3 small slices of
    Swiss cheese. Rolled the medallion up, secured it with toothpicks.
    Sprinkled the pork generously with pepper (no salt). I browned this "roll"
    in a little bit of canola oil. Then I covered the pan and let it cook on
    low heat about 20 minutes to finish off, turning it occasionally.

    It was OKAY. Nothing to brag about. In hindsight, I should have used some
    crumbled herbed Feta rather than the Swiss. And even as long as I cooked
    the roll, the spinach was still basically raw which wasn't what I was going
    for.

    Jill
    --
    I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.

    Sounds like good stuff. When you covered the pan did you add any liquid?

    Dimitri

  3. Dimitri said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Okay, to me they are pork loin chops without bones. Whatever. These
    appeared to be thick enough to split and stuff them. Turned out they
    weren't quite thick enough. So I pounded one fairly flat (the other
    one went in the freezer for a different treatment at a later date).

    I'd previously frozen some fresh sourdough breadcrumbs (scooped out
    of the sourdough rounds that serve as "bread bowls" for my potato
    leek soup). I took a handful of those out and let them thaw, then
    sprinkled them with some rubbed sage and a little marjoram; added
    butter to moisten the crumbs and toasted them and crushed them up.
    I placed the crumbs in the center of the flattened pork. I added
    some leaves of fresh spinach and 3 small slices of Swiss cheese.
    Rolled the medallion up, secured it with toothpicks. Sprinkled the
    pork generously with pepper (no salt). I browned this "roll" in a
    little bit of canola oil. Then I covered the pan and let it cook on
    low heat about 20 minutes to finish off, turning it occasionally.

    It was OKAY. Nothing to brag about. In hindsight, I should have
    used some crumbled herbed Feta rather than the Swiss. And even as
    long as I cooked the roll, the spinach was still basically raw which
    wasn't what I was going for.


    Sounds like good stuff. When you covered the pan did you add any
    liquid?

    Dimitri

    Nope. Hindsight again. I used very little oil so I should have added a bit
    of chicken broth or something but I didn't. Would have helped, I'm sure.

    Jill

  4. Dimitri said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Okay, to me they are pork loin chops without bones. Whatever. These
    appeared to be thick enough to split and stuff them. Turned out they
    weren't quite thick enough. So I pounded one fairly flat (the other one
    went in the freezer for a different treatment at a later date).

    I'd previously frozen some fresh sourdough breadcrumbs (scooped out of the
    sourdough rounds that serve as "bread bowls" for my potato leek soup). I
    took a handful of those out and let them thaw, then sprinkled them withsome
    rubbed sage and a little marjoram; added butter to moisten the crumbs and
    toasted them and crushed them up. I placed the crumbs in the center ofthe
    flattened pork. I added some leaves of fresh spinach and 3 small slices of
    Swiss cheese. Rolled the medallion up, secured it with toothpicks.
    Sprinkled the pork generously with pepper (no salt). I browned this "roll"
    in a little bit of canola oil. Then I covered the pan and let it cook on
    low heat about 20 minutes to finish off, turning it occasionally.

    It was OKAY. Nothing to brag about. In hindsight, I should have used some
    crumbled herbed Feta rather than the Swiss. And even as long as I cooked
    the roll, the spinach was still basically raw which wasn't what I was going
    for.

    Sounds like good stuff. When you covered the pan did you add any liquid?

    Once you add liquid and cover the pan you're going for *braise*, then
    20 minutes cooking it's just getting started... gotta let her go at
    least an hour and a half, probably two. Anyways, stuffed pork chops do
    much better baked. If you want them breaded then pan fry to just set
    and brown the breading, then finish in the oven, NOT covered.... about
    20-30 minutes at 350ºF. Of course any veggies added to the stuffing
    gots to be precooked, in fact the stuffing should be fully cooked prior
    to stuffing, same as stuffing a bird.

    Sheldon

  5. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Dimitri said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Okay, to me they are pork loin chops without bones. Whatever. These
    appeared to be thick enough to split and stuff them. Turned out they
    weren't quite thick enough. So I pounded one fairly flat (the other
    one went in the freezer for a different treatment at a later date).

    I'd previously frozen some fresh sourdough breadcrumbs (scooped out
    of the sourdough rounds that serve as "bread bowls" for my potato
    leek soup). I took a handful of those out and let them thaw, then
    sprinkled them with some rubbed sage and a little marjoram; added
    butter to moisten the crumbs and toasted them and crushed them up.
    I placed the crumbs in the center of the flattened pork. I added
    some leaves of fresh spinach and 3 small slices of Swiss cheese.
    Rolled the medallion up, secured it with toothpicks. Sprinkled the
    pork generously with pepper (no salt). I browned this "roll" in a
    little bit of canola oil. Then I covered the pan and let it cook on
    low heat about 20 minutes to finish off, turning it occasionally.

    It was OKAY. Nothing to brag about. In hindsight, I should have
    used some crumbled herbed Feta rather than the Swiss. And even as
    long as I cooked the roll, the spinach was still basically raw which
    wasn't what I was going for.


    Sounds like good stuff. When you covered the pan did you add any
    liquid?

    Dimitri

    Nope. Hindsight again. I used very little oil so I should have added a bit
    of chicken broth or something but I didn't. Would have helped, I'm sure.

    Jill

    probably - I find the "new Pork" to be dry.

    Dimitri

  6. Jill said:

    I'd previously frozen some fresh sourdough breadcrumbs (scooped out of the
    sourdough rounds that serve as "bread bowls" for my potato leek soup). I
    took a handful of those out and let them thaw, then sprinkled them with
    some rubbed sage and a little marjoram; added butter to moisten the crumbs
    and toasted them and crushed them up. I placed the crumbs in the center
    of the flattened pork. I added some leaves of fresh spinach and 3 small
    slices of Swiss cheese. Rolled the medallion up, secured it with
    toothpicks. Sprinkled the pork generously with pepper (no salt). I
    browned this "roll" in a little bit of canola oil. Then I covered the pan
    and let it cook on low heat about 20 minutes to finish off, turning it
    occasionally.

    It was OKAY. Nothing to brag about. In hindsight, I should have used
    some crumbled herbed Feta rather than the Swiss. And even as long as I
    cooked the roll, the spinach was still basically raw which wasn't what I
    was going for.

    Ah, hindsight! I don't know how many times I've thought of improvements when
    it was far too late. :-)

    Giving some consideration to the cheese, I'm thinking that Parmesan Reggiano
    would go well in there, and so would ricotta. Or you could mix the spinach
    with ricotta (maybe some spices, too) and mix some Parmesan Reggiano with
    the breadcrumbs.

    But...the crumbs were on the INSIDE? My experience with this kind of thing
    has always been to put the cheese and veggies on the inside, then coat the
    outside with the crumbs.

    Bob

  7. jmcquown said:

    And even as long as I cooked
    the roll, the spinach was still basically raw which wasn't what I was going
    for.

    I'd lightly steam the spinach first, even if it's "baby spinach".

  8. Bob said:
    Jill said:

    I'd previously frozen some fresh sourdough breadcrumbs (scooped out of the
    sourdough rounds that serve as "bread bowls" for my potato leek soup). I
    took a handful of those out and let them thaw, then sprinkled them with
    some rubbed sage and a little marjoram; added butter to moisten the crumbs
    and toasted them and crushed them up. I placed the crumbs in the center
    of the flattened pork. I added some leaves of fresh spinach and 3 small
    slices of Swiss cheese. Rolled the medallion up, secured it with
    toothpicks. Sprinkled the pork generously with pepper (no salt). I
    browned this "roll" in a little bit of canola oil. Then I covered the pan
    and let it cook on low heat about 20 minutes to finish off, turning it
    occasionally.

    It was OKAY. Nothing to brag about. In hindsight, I should have used
    some crumbled herbed Feta rather than the Swiss. And even as long as I
    cooked the roll, the spinach was still basically raw which wasn't what I
    was going for.

    Ah, hindsight! I don't know how many times I've thought of improvements when
    it was far too late. :-)

    Giving some consideration to the cheese, I'm thinking that Parmesan Reggiano
    would go well in there, and so would ricotta. Or you could mix the spinach
    with ricotta (maybe some spices, too) and mix some Parmesan Reggiano with
    the breadcrumbs.

    But...the crumbs were on the INSIDE? My experience with this kind of thing
    has always been to put the cheese and veggies on the inside, then coat the
    outside with the crumbs.

    Stuffed pork chops typically take a bread dressing type of stuffing the
    same as for poultry. Why would you think meats can't be stuffed with a
    bread based conconction?

    Sheldon

  9. Sheldon replied to me:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    But...the crumbs were on the INSIDE? My experience with this kind of
    thing has always been to put the cheese and veggies on the inside, then
    coat the outside with the crumbs.

    Stuffed pork chops typically take a bread dressing type of stuffing the
    same as for poultry. Why would you think meats can't be stuffed with a
    bread based conconction?

    You have a point. When I use bread for stuffing poultry or pork chops, I
    generally reduce the bread to pieces about the size of a raisin. When I
    think of crumbs, I think of pieces much smaller than that. I don't know how
    coarse Jill's breadcrumbs were; I made the unwarranted assumption that they
    were what *I* envisioned as breadcrumbs. Since fine breadcrumbs don't make
    for very good stuffing, I moved my assumption forward into a suggestion
    which might have been infeasible if the crumbs were quite coarse.

    I *like* the idea of a crumb-encrusted pork roulade stuffed with spinach and
    cheese, probably better than I'd like a pork roll stuffed with breadcrumbs,
    spinach, and cheese. (I've been served lots of leaden stuffing in pork
    chops, so nowadays I'm wary of anything approaching that culinary
    minefield.) But that's just my tastes.

    Bob

  10. Bob said:

    Sheldon replied to me:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    But...the crumbs were on the INSIDE? My experience with this kind of
    thing has always been to put the cheese and veggies on the inside, then
    coat the outside with the crumbs.

    Stuffed pork chops typically take a bread dressing type of stuffing the
    same as for poultry. Why would you think meats can't be stuffed with a
    bread based conconction?

    You have a point. When I use bread for stuffing poultry or pork chops, I
    generally reduce the bread to pieces about the size of a raisin. When I
    think of crumbs, I think of pieces much smaller than that. I don't know how
    coarse Jill's breadcrumbs were; I made the unwarranted assumption that they
    were what *I* envisioned as breadcrumbs. Since fine breadcrumbs don't make
    for very good stuffing, I moved my assumption forward into a suggestion
    which might have been infeasible if the crumbs were quite coarse.

    I *like* the idea of a crumb-encrusted pork roulade stuffed with spinach and
    cheese,

    I have to say - that sounds REALLY good lol

    Roberta (in VA)

  11. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Okay, to me they are pork loin chops without bones. Whatever. These
    appeared to be thick enough to split and stuff them. Turned out they
    weren't quite thick enough. So I pounded one fairly flat (the other one
    went in the freezer for a different treatment at a later date).

    I'd previously frozen some fresh sourdough breadcrumbs (scooped out of the
    sourdough rounds that serve as "bread bowls" for my potato leek soup). I
    took a handful of those out and let them thaw, then sprinkled them with


    some

    Quoted message said:

    rubbed sage and a little marjoram; added butter to moisten the crumbs and
    toasted them and crushed them up. I placed the crumbs in the center of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    flattened pork. I added some leaves of fresh spinach and 3 small slices


    of

    Quoted message said:

    Swiss cheese. Rolled the medallion up, secured it with toothpicks.
    Sprinkled the pork generously with pepper (no salt). I browned this


    "roll"

    Quoted message said:

    in a little bit of canola oil. Then I covered the pan and let it cook on
    low heat about 20 minutes to finish off, turning it occasionally.

    It was OKAY. Nothing to brag about. In hindsight, I should have used


    some

    Quoted message said:

    crumbled herbed Feta rather than the Swiss. And even as long as I cooked
    the roll, the spinach was still basically raw which wasn't what I was


    going

    Quoted message said:

    for.

    I've done something along these lines before, Jill. I used finely chopped
    apples, walnuts, cheese (for the life of me, I can't remember what type of
    cheese I used!), garlic, a bit of spinach and breadcrumbs, all lightly
    sauteed in butter. I stuffed the pre-brined chops (those great big ones
    from Costco), and gently pan fried them in a bit of oil, and finished them
    in the oven. I then made a sauce (in the same pan) with some Calvados,
    stock and butter. They were fab, not too dry.

    TammyM

  12. Sheldon said:
    Dimitri said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'd previously frozen some fresh sourdough breadcrumbs (scooped out
    of the sourdough rounds that serve as "bread bowls" for my potato
    leek soup). I took a handful of those out and let them thaw, then
    sprinkled them with some rubbed sage and a little marjoram; added
    butter to moisten the crumbs and toasted them

    It was OKAY. Nothing to brag about. In hindsight, I should have
    used some crumbled herbed Feta rather than the Swiss. And even as
    long as I cooked the roll, the spinach was still basically raw
    which wasn't what I was going for.

    Sounds like good stuff. When you covered the pan did you add any
    liquid?

    Once you add liquid and cover the pan you're going for *braise*, then
    20 minutes cooking it's just getting started... gotta let her go at
    least an hour and a half, probably two. Anyways, stuffed pork chops
    do
    much better baked. If you want them breaded then pan fry to just set
    and brown the breading, then finish in the oven, NOT covered.... about
    20-30 minutes at 350ºF. Of course any veggies added to the stuffing
    gots to be precooked, in fact the stuffing should be fully cooked
    prior
    to stuffing, same as stuffing a bird.

    Sheldon

    I did toast the breadcrumbs (actually chunks of sourdough) and very roughly
    crushed them with my fingers before adding to the chop. I didn't want to
    heat the oven for a single rolled medallion which is why I did it on the
    stove-top. I'll make some modifications next time around and will
    definitely lightly cook the spinach (or even use thawed from frozen
    pre-cooked leaves). Normally I don't add veggies and cheese to stuffed
    "chops", it was just an idea. And, I might add, not an entirely bad one!
    It just needs some tweaking.

    Jill

  13. sf said:
    jmcquown said:

    And even as long as I cooked
    the roll, the spinach was still basically raw which wasn't what I
    was going for.

    I'd lightly steam the spinach first, even if it's "baby spinach".

    Yep, I should have done that (it was indeed "baby spinach" leaves).
    Different cheese the next time, too.

    Jill

  14. jmcquown said:

    Okay, to me they are pork loin chops without bones. Whatever. These
    appeared to be thick enough to split and stuff them. Turned out they
    weren't quite thick enough. So I pounded one fairly flat (the other
    one
    went in the freezer for a different treatment at a later date).

    Are you familiar with Escoffiers collection of "Tournedos" recipes,
    medallions of, traditionally, beef cut from the fillet in a round shape
    of about 4 ounces?

    I have never been abel to get the beef to be as tender as i would wish
    it to be so have tried a number of the recipes with pork, i find the
    substitution of pork for beef in the recipies excellant.

    Tournedos a l'Arlesienne
    -----------------------------

    Season the tournedos and shallow fry in a mixture of butter and oil.

    Arrange each on a round crouton of bread fried in clarified butter and
    serve surrounded with alternate bouquets of fried eggplant and sautéed
    tomatoes. Place a few ring's of fried onion on top of each tornedos.

    Tournedos a la Nicoise
    ----------------------------

    Season the tournedos and shallow fry in butter.

    Arrange on a suitable dish and on each tournedos place a small heap of
    roughly chopped tomato flesh stewed together with a little crushed
    garlic and chopped tarragon. Surround with alternate bouquets of
    buttered French beans and small boiled potatoes.

    Tournedos Villaret
    ----------------------

    season the tournedos and grill them.

    Arrange each on a tartlet case filled with a very fine puree of
    flageolet beans and place a grilled mushroom on top of each tornados.
    Serve sauce chateaubriand separately.

    There are many,. many variations using most vegetables, cauliflower,
    asparagus, many forms of potatoes, artichoke harts, even a lightly
    poached egg yolk can take the place of a sauce.

    I often take a stiff mashed potato and place a layer of it on top of the
    meat rather than underneath and then layer any other veggie and sauce
    over this.

    I have used a cylindrical biscuit cutter as a mold for layering a number
    of varous ingredients, warming it all thorough in a hot oven and then
    demolding onto a wram plate. But this is more for preentation than
    anything else, a few ingridients can be layered without a mold.

    One can produce very nice faux moussaka for individual servings this
    way. A cooked & pureed eggplant is a very nice additon to the pork. As
    well as replacing the crouton of bread with a slice of fried eggplant.
    ---
    JL

    Quoted message said:

    I'd previously frozen some fresh sourdough breadcrumbs (scooped out of
    the
    sourdough rounds that serve as "bread bowls" for my potato leek
    soup). I
    took a handful of those out and let them thaw, then sprinkled them
    with some
    rubbed sage and a little marjoram; added butter to moisten the crumbs
    and
    toasted them and crushed them up. I placed the crumbs in the center
    of the
    flattened pork. I added some leaves of fresh spinach and 3 small
    slices of
    Swiss cheese. Rolled the medallion up, secured it with toothpicks.
    Sprinkled the pork generously with pepper (no salt). I browned this
    "roll"
    in a little bit of canola oil. Then I covered the pan and let it cook
    on
    low heat about 20 minutes to finish off, turning it occasionally.

    It was OKAY. Nothing to brag about. In hindsight, I should have used
    some
    crumbled herbed Feta rather than the Swiss. And even as long as I
    cooked
    the roll, the spinach was still basically raw which wasn't what I was
    going
    for.

    Jill
    --
    I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.

  15. Sheldon said:
    Bob said:
    Jill said:

    I'd previously frozen some fresh sourdough breadcrumbs (scooped out of the
    sourdough rounds that serve as "bread bowls" for my potato leek soup). I
    took a handful of those out and let them thaw, then sprinkled them with
    some rubbed sage and a little marjoram; added butter to moisten the crumbs
    and toasted them and crushed them up. I placed the crumbs in the center
    of the flattened pork. I added some leaves of fresh spinach and 3 small
    slices of Swiss cheese. Rolled the medallion up, secured it with
    toothpicks. Sprinkled the pork generously with pepper (no salt). I
    browned this "roll" in a little bit of canola oil. Then I covered the pan
    and let it cook on low heat about 20 minutes to finish off, turning it
    occasionally.

    It was OKAY. Nothing to brag about. In hindsight, I should have used
    some crumbled herbed Feta rather than the Swiss. And even as long as I
    cooked the roll, the spinach was still basically raw which wasn't what I
    was going for.

    Ah, hindsight! I don't know how many times I've thought of improvements when
    it was far too late. :-)

    Giving some consideration to the cheese, I'm thinking that Parmesan Reggiano
    would go well in there, and so would ricotta. Or you could mix the spinach
    with ricotta (maybe some spices, too) and mix some Parmesan Reggiano with
    the breadcrumbs.

    But...the crumbs were on the INSIDE? My experience with this kind of thing
    has always been to put the cheese and veggies on the inside, then coat the
    outside with the crumbs.

    Stuffed pork chops typically take a bread dressing type of stuffing the
    same as for poultry. Why would you think meats can't be stuffed with a
    bread based conconction?

    Sheldon


    Mind if you post your favorite Stuffed Pork Chop recipe? Please specify
    the thickness of the chop; I like them about 1 1/2 inches thick so that
    they remain juicy.

    TIA

    Rich

    --

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