donnie

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about an hour ago i saw donovan
zip to a 28:34 in team championship 5 miler / 5:42/mile in 75F & 82%
humidity on a hilly course.

First off he's on roids, secondly he had a *promise" of the whole club
"nailing his [censored]" if he came in first, so he did. He's *busy* right
now...

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

The Bill Rodgers said:

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about an hour ago i saw donovan
zip to a 28:34 in team championship 5 miler

First off he's on roids, secondly he had a *promise" of the whole club
"nailing his [censored]" if he came in first

Well then for better or worse, 90 boys and 1 girl finished ahead of
him.

Though he did finish a couple minutes ahead of his teammate Michelle
Bleakley who was only the 7th place woman. She's won a number of the
local races over the last year, wonder if she ran a bad race or if the
faster women finally showed up for this race.

Nice job DR.

On 20 Aug 2005 07:49:13 -0700, "Charlie Pendejo" <[email hidden]>

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1 girl finished ahead of
him.

HE WAS BEAT BY A GIRL????? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

Charlie Pendejo said:

The Bill Rodgers said:

Quoted message said:

about an hour ago i saw donovan
zip to a 28:34 in team championship 5 miler

First off he's on roids, secondly he had a *promise" of the whole club
"nailing his [censored]" if he came in first

Well then for better or worse, 90 boys and 1 girl finished ahead of
him.

It's a very deep field. That run was 7 seconds off my PR, and that PR
was on the easier course (lower 5) in perfect conditions. I was aiming
for top 100 (well outside that last year).

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Though he did finish a couple minutes ahead of his teammate Michelle
Bleakley who was only the 7th place woman. She's won a number of the
local races over the last year, wonder if she ran a bad race or if the
faster women finally showed up for this race.

Very deep field on both the mens and womens side. The Ethiopians (WTC)
showed and so did all of CPTC's fast track runners.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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-posting from my blackberry to the ng- about an hour ago i saw donovan
zip to a 28:34 in team championship 5 miler / 5:42/mile in 75F & 82%
humidity on a hilly course. somebody's been training real hard... good
job, talk about the race donnie...

Thanks. This was always going to be a tough race, historically conditions
are always warm, and the course is tough. The course is the upper 5
counter-clockwise, which means you go up the harlem hill and up cat hill
as opposed to the faster clockwise lower 5 course. I went in to this
without much in the way of time goal, aiming to crack the top 100.

Last year I ran 29:34 for 129th place. Though the time was slow, everyone
else was too, so I didn't think of it as a terribly bad race.

So expecting it to be a slow pace, I paced the first mile off some of
the more conservative of my teammates. It was easier to hold back at the
start, this was a rare occasion where the fast leaders didn't such
everyone out at an insane pace. First mile in 5:46. On pace for just
under 29, so happy with that split. Didn't really do anything different
in mile 2, which is rolling on the west hills. Ran a 5:48. By mile 3,
several people seemed to be getting tired, so I passed quite a few people
including all the teammates who are in my pace group. I gain some from
the downhill -- split is 5:36. Mile 4 starts in the middle of the
transverse and goes up cat hill. I get passed by some CPTC guys near the
end of mile 4. Cat Hill takes its toll -- 5:52, total time just over 23.

So I'm thinking, I'm just under 29 if I run another 5:50 or so mile. But
the last mile is downhill, and I have some speed left. So I start
bringing them in -- the CPTC guys, a rival from UA, and others. The last
split was a 5:30. I was never thinking of time in the last mile, just
trying to chase the competition down and pass them. But the result was
a fast split.

About the training going into this -- I've been back to 2-a-days. The
biggest difference between my training for this, and for the fathers
day 5 mile is 2-a-day vs 1-a-day training.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

"Bill, tell Hill
We called her, left a message ~ We await
Answers, after she kicks their [censored] ~ !"
~ Twittering

"Heck, yeah ~ !"
~ Folly

Beat by a girlie, beat by a girlie...

Donovan Rebbechi said:

Quoted message said:

-posting from my blackberry to the ng- about an hour ago i saw donovan
zip to a 28:34 in team championship 5 miler / 5:42/mile in 75F & 82%
humidity on a hilly course. somebody's been training real hard... good
job, talk about the race donnie...

Thanks. This was always going to be a tough race, historically conditions
are always warm, and the course is tough. The course is the upper 5
counter-clockwise, which means you go up the harlem hill and up cat hill
as opposed to the faster clockwise lower 5 course. I went in to this
without much in the way of time goal, aiming to crack the top 100.

Last year I ran 29:34 for 129th place. Though the time was slow, everyone
else was too, so I didn't think of it as a terribly bad race.

So expecting it to be a slow pace, I paced the first mile off some of
the more conservative of my teammates. It was easier to hold back at the
start, this was a rare occasion where the fast leaders didn't such
everyone out at an insane pace. First mile in 5:46. On pace for just
under 29, so happy with that split. Didn't really do anything different
in mile 2, which is rolling on the west hills. Ran a 5:48. By mile 3,
several people seemed to be getting tired, so I passed quite a few people
including all the teammates who are in my pace group. I gain some from
the downhill -- split is 5:36. Mile 4 starts in the middle of the
transverse and goes up cat hill. I get passed by some CPTC guys near the
end of mile 4. Cat Hill takes its toll -- 5:52, total time just over 23.

So I'm thinking, I'm just under 29 if I run another 5:50 or so mile. But
the last mile is downhill, and I have some speed left. So I start
bringing them in -- the CPTC guys, a rival from UA, and others. The last
split was a 5:30. I was never thinking of time in the last mile, just
trying to chase the competition down and pass them. But the result was
a fast split.

About the training going into this -- I've been back to 2-a-days. The
biggest difference between my training for this, and for the fathers
day 5 mile is 2-a-day vs 1-a-day training.

Cheers,

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

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By mile 3, several people seemed to be getting tired, so I passed quite a few people

including all the teammates who are in my pace group.
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that was a hell of a performance you pulled off donnie...arguably your
best race ever i would say due to the conditions (weather & course). i
certainly could not have approached 75%+ AG in that humidity...no way.

what about your hydration management?...did you? at what points?

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By mile 3, several people seemed to be getting tired, so I passed quite a few people
including all the teammates who are in my pace group.

that was a hell of a performance you pulled off donnie...arguably your
best race ever i would say due to the conditions (weather & course). i

Yeah, I'd say so.

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what about your hydration management?...did you? at what points?

Just got well hydrated before the race. There's a reason they don't
have water stations in elite 10k races.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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that was a hell of a performance you pulled off donnie...arguably your
best race ever i would say due to the conditions (weather & course). i
certainly could not have approached 75%+ AG in that humidity...no way.
what about your hydration management?...did you? at what points?

Anyone get the feeling he's a puppy dog, yapping at Donovans heels?

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

"Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Just got well hydrated before the race. There's a reason they don't
have water stations in elite 10k races.

Nevertheless, they do get thirsty, and at least some gulp down something: I
saw a pic on the web of the 3rd place guy at the Peachtree road race
grabbing a cup of water. He was an elite African. That is a notoriously
muggy race, I believe.

Yes, they probably don't have water stops at track races, but my point was
that if given a choice, elites will drink in shorter races.

Also, water doping (drinking an extra x oz before a race), may help overall
by reducing the h2o deficit throughout the race, but it does reduce
hematocrit in the early stages, and I'd argue that it's better to drink when
in need than in advance if given the choice.

I'll cop to skipping water stops in 10k races in cool weather, however. I
weigh "I'll loose 10 seconds getting this water down" against "will the lack
of that 8 oz cost me 10 seconds?"

-- Dan

Dan Stumpus said:

"Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Just got well hydrated before the race. There's a reason they don't
have water stations in elite 10k races.

Nevertheless, they do get thirsty, and at least some gulp down something: I
saw a pic on the web of the 3rd place guy at the Peachtree road race
grabbing a cup of water.

How much water do you think he got down ? Maybe 100ml or so ?

I didn't feel myself getting thirsty in this particular 28:xx run anyway.

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I'll cop to skipping water stops in 10k races in cool weather, however. I

Don't forget that a 10k for plodders like us is comparable to a 12k for elites.

This race was a 5 miler, so I was only out there for just over 28 minutes (much
like elites in a track 10k) In a 10k, which is more like 36 minutes for me, I
might take some early in the race (but even then, only if it's warm)

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weigh "I'll loose 10 seconds getting this water down" against "will the lack
of that 8 oz cost me 10 seconds?"

I ran the last mile in 5:30 (my fastest for that race), so maybe being 8oz
lighter helped (-;

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Dan Stumpus said:

Yes, they probably don't have water stops at track races, but my point was
that if given a choice, elites will drink in shorter races.

Yes, but out of convenience, not necessity.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

This is Donnie on Sat in his race....

http://www.mensracing.com/image_view.php?p=91&s=photos/2005/nyrrteamchamps05/teamchamps

Looks Good
Donvon ~ !

You're turning inward, though.
Becareful for the sake of knees.

Your shoes ...
Flats, or old?

Enough support?

Your still have a lot of muscle,
Even though you no longer
Lift.

Do you do yoga?

Good work ~ !

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How much water do you think he got down ? Maybe 100ml or so ?

Maybe you can ask Kabiso, he's "elite", took 2nd place with a
24:17.....but what's he doing in this pix in the same race?

http://www.mensracing.com/image_view.php?p=12&s=photos/2005/nyrrteamchamps05/teamchamps

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How much water do you think he got down ? Maybe 100ml or so ?

Maybe you can ask Kabiso, he's "elite", took 2nd place with a
24:17.....but what's he doing in this pix in the same race?

The other guys seemed to do fine without water. Out of the four
guys in the lead pack, which one has the least experience ?

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

<[email hidden]> wrote

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This is Donnie on Sat in his race....

Yo, Donovan, what up with the gang sign?

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The other guys seemed to do fine without water.

at that one stop. they may have grabbed water at other stops...we just
don't have the photographic record of the other stops & the leaders.
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. perhaps the top 10 or
50 finishers hydrated on course at some point...who knows...

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Out of the four

guys in the lead pack, which one has the least experience ?

The guy that finished second in the race.