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  1. Vaguely relevant to Australian conditions...or not?!?

    Are you safe on a bike?
    From the site: This is intended for people who have experience of cycling on the roads. The object is to see if you have got into bad habits. It must not be used as a substitute for training. It is really good for checking you really know your stuff. It is ideal for finding out why you're having such a stressful time on the roads when others don't seem to have those problems. This is not meant to be a tutorial or a substitute for proper cycle training. Intended for United Kingdom use only.

  2. cfsmtb said:

    Vaguely relevant to Australian conditions...or not?!?

    'ARE YOU SAFE ON A BIKE?'
    (HTTP://WWW.MOPOC.COM/M3/V1/CYCLING/QSTART.PHP)
    -From the site: This is intended for people who have experience of
    cycling on the roads. The object is to see if you have got into bad
    habits. It must not be used as a substitute for training. It is really
    good for checking you really know your stuff. It is ideal for finding
    out why you're having such a stressful time on the roads when others
    don't seem to have those problems. This is not meant to be a tutorial
    or a substitute for proper cycle training. Intended for United Kingdom
    use only.-

    You may find the URL is case sensitive (don't know if it's the browser or
    the site that is fussy) - http://www.mopoc.com/m3/v1/cycling/qstart.php

    Graeme

  3. Graeme Dods said:

    You may find the URL is case sensitive (don't know if it's the browser or
    the site that is fussy) - http://www.mopoc.com/m3/v1/cycling/qstart.php

    Graeme

    Think it's a stuffup between aus.bicycle & cyclingforums. Or possible browser problems.

  4. "Graeme Dods" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    cfsmtb said:

    Vaguely relevant to Australian conditions...or not?!?

    'ARE YOU SAFE ON A BIKE?'
    (HTTP://WWW.MOPOC.COM/M3/V1/CYCLING/QSTART.PHP)
    -From the site: This is intended for people who have experience of
    cycling on the roads. The object is to see if you have got into bad
    habits. It must not be used as a substitute for training. It is really
    good for checking you really know your stuff. It is ideal for finding
    out why you're having such a stressful time on the roads when others
    don't seem to have those problems. This is not meant to be a tutorial
    or a substitute for proper cycle training. Intended for United Kingdom
    use only.-

    You may find the URL is case sensitive (don't know if it's the browser or
    the site that is fussy) - http://www.mopoc.com/m3/v1/cycling/qstart.php

    Graeme

    Well it appears that I'm a bit too much of a wuss to be truly safe. Still, I
    very rarely get abused or startled so I can't be doing too badly.

  5. I did really badly.
    A danger to myself & other on the road
    (doesn't that mean I should be driving a car instead?)

  6. Me too. Some of that [censored] I wouldn't be game to do in fear of the good old Aussie bogan in his/her government sanctioned weapon purposely knocking me off the bike.

    Motorists in the UK are obviously a little more aware of the road rules...

    LotteBum

  7. LotteBum said:

    Motorists in the UK are obviously a little more aware of the road
    rules...

    Aware, possibly (but doubtful). Adhere, certainly not. It's about as bad
    here (Perth) as back in the UK for adhering to road rules. However, it does
    appear that the general standard of driving is a little better in the UK.

    Graeme

  8. Graeme wrote:

    Aware, possibly (but doubtful). Adhere, certainly not. It's about as bad
    here (Perth) as back in the UK for adhering to road rules. However, it does
    appear that the general standard of driving is a little better in the UK.

    Graeme, I hereby invite you to visit Queensland.

    Lotte :-)

  9. Did the test. Failed. Read the logic behind the answers - agreed with some, didn't agree with others.

    I was thinking about road positioning on the way home.

    At a T intersection, I pulled up in the middle of my lane to turn right into the top of the T which is a major road. White Ford Laser squeezed up to the intersection on my left. Yep, as soon as there was a gap in the traffic I pulled out to turn right and the fool in the car started turning right too, right into my path. I propped and pointed to the driver and yelled "You...[censored] OFF" very very clearly and very very loudly. The idiot got the message and didn't try to do anything further to kill me.

    I even frightened myself. It was close to home too, so I hope none of the little old ladies that live near me heard it. They all think I am a nice boy. But the Laser scarred the living daylights out of me and I reacted without thinking.

    For those of you with army connections, I reminded myself of a very loud and very aggressive Regimental Sergeant Major I knew many years ago who could melt young soldiers on the parade ground with one mighty bellow.

    I don't think the driver of the Laser will cut off a cyclist again.

    SteveA

  10. Marx SS said:

    I did really badly.
    -A danger to myself & other on the road-
    (doesn't that mean I should be driving a car instead?)

    --
    Marx SS

    Me too but then we drive on the other side of the road here.

    And too, I suspect that it is also that I disagree with what they think
    the correct answer is. I said riding in the cycle lane was more
    dangerous than riding on the main part of the road. 🙂 And for most
    if not all cycle lanes this IMO is true.

    John Kane
    Kingston ON Canada

  11. LotteBum said:

    Graeme, I hereby invite you to visit Queensland.

    No thanks, I hear they allow psychos with shotguns out on the roads 🙂

    Graeme

  12. Graeme Dods said:
    LotteBum said:

    Graeme, I hereby invite you to visit Queensland.

    No thanks, I hear they allow psychos with shotguns out on the roads 🙂

    Graeme

    Hey its magpie season.

    WHats you r problem 🙂

  13. dave said:

    Hey its magpie season.

    WHats you r problem 🙂

    I wear black and white cycling gear 🙂

  14. Graeme wrote:

    No thanks, I hear they allow psychos with shotguns out on the roads 🙂

    Hey I'll only use it if you [censored] me off. I promise.

    Lotte

  15. cfsmtb said:

    Vaguely relevant to Australian conditions...or not?!?

    'ARE YOU SAFE ON A BIKE?'
    (HTTP://WWW.MOPOC.COM/M3/V1/CYCLING/QSTART.PHP)
    -From the site: This is intended for people who have experience of
    cycling on the roads. The object is to see if you have got into bad
    habits. It must not be used as a substitute for training. It is really
    good for checking you really know your stuff. It is ideal for finding
    out why you're having such a stressful time on the roads when others
    don't seem to have those problems. This is not meant to be a tutorial
    or a substitute for proper cycle training. Intended for United Kingdom
    use only.-

    I didn't check all the answers but there's one that's obviously wrong:
    "You said a mandatory cycle lane must be used. Wrong The solid white
    line means 'cars keep out' and nothing else."

    Qld TORUM Road Rules Regs:
    "Riding in a bicycle lane on a road
    247.(1) The rider of a bicycle riding on a length of road with a bicycle
    lane designed for bicycles travelling in the same direction as the rider
    must ride in the bicycle lane unless it is impracticable to do so.
    Maximum penalty -- 20 penalty units." i.e. $1500

    --
    Peter McCallum
    Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

  16. cfsmtb said:

    Vaguely relevant to Australian conditions...or not?!?

    Are you safe on a bike?
    From the site: This is intended for people who have experience of cycling on the roads. The object is to see if you have got into bad habits. It must not be used as a substitute for training. It is really good for checking you really know your stuff. It is ideal for finding out why you're having such a stressful time on the roads when others don't seem to have those problems. This is not meant to be a tutorial or a substitute for proper cycle training. Intended for United Kingdom use only.


    Well well, no surprise there then. I got two cycle lane ones wrong.

    I went by what's the law and was penalised on safety grounds. I'd say that a ``it depends''. I'm not the worlds biggest fan of cycling lanes but sometimes it's the appropriate place to be. Other times they flat out suck.

    Aced all the other stuff :=) It works, I rarely have any problems on the road.

  17. "Peter McCallum" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    cfsmtb said:

    Vaguely relevant to Australian conditions...or not?!?

    'ARE YOU SAFE ON A BIKE?'
    (HTTP://WWW.MOPOC.COM/M3/V1/CYCLING/QSTART.PHP)
    -From the site: This is intended for people who have experience of
    cycling on the roads. The object is to see if you have got into bad
    habits. It must not be used as a substitute for training. It is really
    good for checking you really know your stuff. It is ideal for finding
    out why you're having such a stressful time on the roads when others
    don't seem to have those problems. This is not meant to be a tutorial
    or a substitute for proper cycle training. Intended for United Kingdom
    use only.-

    I didn't check all the answers but there's one that's obviously wrong:
    "You said a mandatory cycle lane must be used. Wrong The solid white
    line means 'cars keep out' and nothing else."

    Qld TORUM Road Rules Regs:
    "Riding in a bicycle lane on a road
    247.(1) The rider of a bicycle riding on a length of road with a bicycle
    lane designed for bicycles travelling in the same direction as the rider
    must ride in the bicycle lane unless it is impracticable to do so.
    Maximum penalty -- 20 penalty units." i.e. $1500

    --
    Peter McCallum
    Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

    It does say at the start that it's intended to only apply in the UK. Their
    laws are obviously a little more liberal in that respect.

  18. Graeme Dods said:
    dave said:

    Hey its magpie season.

    WHats you r problem 🙂

    I wear black and white cycling gear 🙂

    Hmmm and my eyesight is a bit average.

    Sorry.. in advance 🙂

  19. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> "Graeme" == Graeme Dods <[email hidden]> writes:

    Graeme> Aware, possibly (but doubtful). Adhere, certainly not. It's
    Graeme> about as bad here (Perth) as back in the UK for adhering to
    Graeme> road rules. However, it does appear that the general
    Graeme> standard of driving is a little better in the UK.

    I'd agree with that but that could be a bit of ex-pat bias shining
    through. The general standard of driving in Australia's pretty poor.
    Of the countries I've been to Germany's got the best drivers both on
    autobahns and in urban.
    --
    Cheers | ~~ __@
    Euan | ~~ _-\<,
    Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)

  20. Euan said:

    Of the countries I've been to Germany's got the best drivers both on
    autobahns and in urban.

    I'd agree with that too, but it takes a little while to get used to "going
    with the flow" at 200+ km/h (my wife on the other hand took to it like a
    duck to water).

    Graeme

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