knee pain

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Anyone experienced knee pain from having the saddle too high ? I assume
that was what caused it, since I was trying to get the correct height
on a new bike & saddle & lowered the saddle down 2cm - felt more
comfortable. My knee is know hurting continually, even when resting and
not applying any weight. Seems to be at the top of the knee cap
particularly. Any advice ?

What worked for me was changing to clipless pedals from platform pedals.
Knee pain went overnight.

Cheers, helen s

Quoted message said:

Anyone experienced knee pain from having the saddle too high ? I assume
that was what caused it, since I was trying to get the correct height
on a new bike & saddle & lowered the saddle down 2cm - felt more
comfortable. My knee is know hurting continually, even when resting and
not applying any weight. Seems to be at the top of the knee cap
particularly. Any advice ?

Have you suddenly increased how much you cycle? When I started rowing my
leg muscles quickly became stronger, and the tendons on the top of the
knee took a bit longer to adapt and hurt from overuse for a while. Same
thing happened after the first mountain on cycling holidays.

Roos

Roos Eisma said:

Same
thing happened after the first mountain on cycling holidays.

Bear in mind that Roos is from the Netherlands so *any* mountain will
be very different to normal cycling. ;-)

Of course, we don't have mountains in Dundee, just the odd 'wee brae'
[1].

...d

[1] small hill, like the one I went up last night [2]. Continuous
climbing for 6+km, overall height gain 220m.

[2] Knapp to Tullybaccart. There is a little bit of downhill right in
the middle, just enough to catch your breath.

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comfortable. My knee is know hurting continually, even when resting and
not applying any weight. Seems to be at the top of the knee cap
particularly. Any advice ?

See a physio.

I've somewhat distorted leg bones and have had knee pain off-and-on
for about 20 years. However, a physio has always managed to get it
from an 'on' phase to an 'off' phase. The problem is, even to an
involved and interested amateur like me, it's easy to wrongly diagnose
and do the wrong sort of exercises to correct it - to the extent that
I've sometimes been and told them it seems like a repeat of last time,
and I've been doing (eg) straight-leg-lifts (the exercise of choice
last time) while waiting for the appointment to come through, and then
they've diagnosed the problem being the oppositte muscle and a
s-l-lift will exacerbate it - I want to be doing one-legged-squats (or
whatever) this time.

Anyway, my advice is: joint pain = physio. My GP _always_ tries to
fob me off with anti-inflammatories, but has always been persuaded
that a physio referral will be better (and it always has been). I've
never been to a specific sports physio, even your common-and-garden
variety are fantastically effective (IME).

regards, Ian SMith
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Ian Smith said:

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comfortable. My knee is know hurting continually, even when resting and
not applying any weight. Seems to be at the top of the knee cap
particularly. Any advice ?

See a physio.

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never been to a specific sports physio, even your common-and-garden
variety are fantastically effective (IME).

As ever, it's a funny old world. I've never found physiotherapists
anything other than utterly useless, even to the extent of being told by
a pair of them (while I was in pretty near agony with a problem in the
large tendon which terminates in the groin) that there was no condition
and that I must be imagining the pain. I do however agree that with
knee and other joint pains, medical assistance should be sought. A good
GP with an interest in sports injuries is my preferred port of call.

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Brian G

Quoted message said:

Anyone experienced knee pain from having the saddle too high ? I assume
that was what caused it, since I was trying to get the correct height
on a new bike & saddle & lowered the saddle down 2cm - felt more
comfortable. My knee is know hurting continually, even when resting and
not applying any weight. Seems to be at the top of the knee cap
particularly. Any advice ?

I'm not sure I understand what's happened. You didn't have any knee pain
and then you lowered the saddle by 2cm and now you have pain at the front
of the knee (towards the top)?

Have you not tried raising the saddle a bit above its new position?

Pain at the front of the knee is often caused by having the saddle too low
whereas pain at the back is often caused by having the saddle too high.

See http://www.cptips.com/knee.htm for further advice.

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Michael MacClancy

No, had new bike & saddle & think I must have set the saddle height too
high (was quite uncomfortable cycling, felt slight rocking motion when
going along). Had sharp pain in knee, then stopped to adjust saddle.
Moved it down by 2cm, and back slightly - seemed must more comfortable.
Carried on, and pain seemed to go away, but came back few hours later -
have had continual nagging pain on top of knee cap and on outside edge
- is also painful to touch. Yes, think I shall have to go to gp to get
it checked out. Thanks for the website link - very detailed.

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Yes, think I shall have to go to gp to get it checked out.
Thanks for the website link - very detailed.

Your GP might be good at knees, but you could be better off booking an
appointment at a sports injuries clinic, or getting your GP ro refer
you to a sports injury specialist.

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Dave...

having the saddle too high, in other words, hyperextending the leg can
be a cause of some knee problems. It happened to me although I have a
combination of causes for my knee problem which is now more or less
delt with and managed.

The following comments are from my own experience. I am not medicaly
qualified.

It could be that the joint has become inflamed. Inflammation can be a
bit of a self perpetuating thing. Give the knee a bit of a rest and
take some anti-inflammatories. This should allow the inflammation to
reduce so that normal activity shouldn't keep the inflammation going.

I also have a slight foot pronation which I really notice if I walk on
the wrong type of a gradient and tight muscles at the back of my leg
(muscle imbalance) which puts pressure on the knee cap. Hence
inflammation.

A good physio and proper exercise make a big difference. Go and see at
least two physios and see if they come to the same conclusions! Will
they give you a written report on your condition? Probably not, that
would be evidence that they got it wrong. Would be interesting to ask
for a written report. I always find that they tell me verbaly what is
going on. I only remember about 30% of it.

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Anyone experienced knee pain from having the saddle too high ?

I have had knee pain from saddle too low, and from too much leg
extension on a recumbent ("to high"😉. The former was at the top of
the knee or behind the kneecap, the latter was at the back of the
knee.

Pain where you describe is probably the result of saddle too low.

Keep in low gears, cadence nice and high, saddle set so that your leg
is straight with your heel on the pedal at the bottom of the pedal
stroke. If you can touch the ground while sitting on the saddle it is
probably too low!

Guy
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