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  1. On Sat 13 Aug 2005 02:06:04p, MoM wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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    "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Fri 12 Aug 2005 08:22:08p, Carrie Jacques wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    Hi everyone,

    This is my first post to the group, and I'm hoping someone may be able
    to help.

    My father used to be a manager at Le Biftheque
    (http://www.lebiftheque.com) about ten years or so ago, when the
    restaurant was in the states (I think they are only in Canada now).
    The restaurant has the most wonderful dessert I've ever had, called
    Millefeuille. My father cannot remember the recipe for the dessert,
    he used to know it by heart but as he's gotten older he can no longer
    remember it. His birthday is coming up and I would love to make it
    for him, as it was a family favorite of ours when I was younger.

    I remember some things that were in this dessert: it had two layers of
    graham crackers (one bottom layer and one on the top), two layers of a
    cream or pudding (yellow and white), a top and on top of the graham
    crackers on the top there was white icing drizzled with chocolate. It
    looks a lot like a Napoleon but this dessert definitely tasted a lot
    different and it was much better. I've tried to wing it, not follow a
    specific recipe and make it from memory, but I always fail miserably.

    If anyone knows how to make this, I would love to have the recipe.

    Thanks
    Carrie

    This seems to be almost exactly what you are looking for.

    "MILLE FEUILLE"
    2 pkgs. vanilla pudding (cook and serve); 1 (6 oz.) and 1 (3.4 oz.)
    1 box graham crackers
    1 pt. heavy whipping cream
    6-8 oz. chocolate chips

    Layer 9x13 Pyrex dish with graham crackers. Cook pudding according to
    box directions. Slowly pour pudding over crackers. Cover pudding with
    graham cracker layer. Beat whipping cream, then cover over graham
    cracker. Melt chocolate chips, then sprinkle melted chocolate over
    whipped cream. Chill 1-2 hours before serving.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*


    What a horrible murder of a wonderful pastry! Mille-feuilles are made
    with puff pastry.

    Mille-feuilles are a type of pastry consisting of two thin sheets of
    pastry laid on top of each other like a sandwich with jam and cream
    spread on the inside and a thin layer of icing (usually lemon icing) on
    top.

    The word mille-feuille means thousand leaves in French

    Yes, Helen, I know all of that, and I agree. I was just trying to give the
    OP what she was seeking.

    I have eaten and made the original kind and love it.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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    Quoted message said:
    MoM said:

    What a horrible murder of a wonderful pastry! Mille-feuilles are
    made with puff pastry.

    Mille-feuilles are a type of pastry consisting of two thin sheets of
    pastry laid on top of each other like a sandwich with jam and cream
    spread on the inside and a thin layer of icing (usually lemon icing)
    on top.

    The word mille-feuille means thousand leaves in French

    I hear ya. I can imagine a delightful yet less cloyingly sweet dessert
    if made with pastry and pastry cream. Simple and yet elegant.
    But my real question is: how do you pronounce that "feuille" part?
    Goomba (The French Drop Out)

    fueeee

  3. On Sat 13 Aug 2005 02:36:40p, Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    "Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    MoM said:

    What a horrible murder of a wonderful pastry! Mille-feuilles are
    made with puff pastry.

    Mille-feuilles are a type of pastry consisting of two thin sheets of
    pastry laid on top of each other like a sandwich with jam and cream
    spread on the inside and a thin layer of icing (usually lemon icing)
    on top.

    The word mille-feuille means thousand leaves in French

    I hear ya. I can imagine a delightful yet less cloyingly sweet dessert
    if made with pastry and pastry cream. Simple and yet elegant.
    But my real question is: how do you pronounce that "feuille" part?
    Goomba (The French Drop Out)

    fueeee

    oh, fooey, yourself! :-)

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

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  4. "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Sat 13 Aug 2005 02:06:04p, MoM wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri 12 Aug 2005 08:22:08p, Carrie Jacques wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    > Hi everyone,
    >
    > This is my first post to the group, and I'm hoping someone may be able
    > to help.
    >
    > My father used to be a manager at Le Biftheque
    > (http://www.lebiftheque.com) about ten years or so ago, when the
    > restaurant was in the states (I think they are only in Canada now).
    > The restaurant has the most wonderful dessert I've ever had, called
    > Millefeuille. My father cannot remember the recipe for the dessert,
    > he used to know it by heart but as he's gotten older he can no longer
    > remember it. His birthday is coming up and I would love to make it
    > for him, as it was a family favorite of ours when I was younger.
    >
    > I remember some things that were in this dessert: it had two layers of
    > graham crackers (one bottom layer and one on the top), two layers of a
    > cream or pudding (yellow and white), a top and on top of the graham
    > crackers on the top there was white icing drizzled with chocolate. It
    > looks a lot like a Napoleon but this dessert definitely tasted a lot
    > different and it was much better. I've tried to wing it, not follow a
    > specific recipe and make it from memory, but I always fail miserably.
    >
    > If anyone knows how to make this, I would love to have the recipe.
    >
    > Thanks
    > Carrie

    This seems to be almost exactly what you are looking for.

    "MILLE FEUILLE"
    2 pkgs. vanilla pudding (cook and serve); 1 (6 oz.) and 1 (3.4 oz.)
    1 box graham crackers
    1 pt. heavy whipping cream
    6-8 oz. chocolate chips

    Layer 9x13 Pyrex dish with graham crackers. Cook pudding according to
    box directions. Slowly pour pudding over crackers. Cover pudding with
    graham cracker layer. Beat whipping cream, then cover over graham
    cracker. Melt chocolate chips, then sprinkle melted chocolate over
    whipped cream. Chill 1-2 hours before serving.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*


    What a horrible murder of a wonderful pastry! Mille-feuilles are made
    with puff pastry.

    Mille-feuilles are a type of pastry consisting of two thin sheets of
    pastry laid on top of each other like a sandwich with jam and cream
    spread on the inside and a thin layer of icing (usually lemon icing) on
    top.

    The word mille-feuille means thousand leaves in French

    Yes, Helen, I know all of that, and I agree. I was just trying to give
    the
    OP what she was seeking.

    I have eaten and made the original kind and love it.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*

    Oh, Wayne! I wasn't knocking you.... Just the idea of a so called
    "restaurant" serving something like this!

    MoM

  5. Carrie Jacques said:

    Hi everyone,

    This is my first post to the group, and I'm hoping someone may be able to
    help.

    My father used to be a manager at Le Biftheque (http://www.lebiftheque.com)
    about ten years or so ago, when the restaurant was in the states (I think
    they are only in Canada now). The restaurant has the most wonderful dessert
    I've ever had, called Millefeuille. My father cannot remember the recipe
    for the dessert, he used to know it by heart but as he's gotten older he can
    no longer remember it. His birthday is coming up and I would love to make
    it for him, as it was a family favorite of ours when I was younger.

    I found the following at Allrecipes.com. It looks more traditional
    than Emeril's:

    INGREDIENTS:
    2 cups milk
    7 1/2 tablespoons all-purpose flour
    1 whole vanilla bean
    3/4 cup castor sugar or superfine sugar
    1 pinch salt
    6 egg yolks
    1 1/2 (17.5 ounce) packages frozen puff pastry
    1/2 cup apricot preserves (optional)
    confectioners' sugar for dusting

    DIRECTIONS:
    In a small saucepan, heat milk until small bubbles form. Drop in the
    vanilla pod, remove saucepan from heat, and set aside to cool until
    just warm. In a medium saucepan, stir together the flour, sugar, salt,
    and egg yolks. Beat for a moment, then gradually whisk in warm milk.
    Simmer over medium-low heat until the custard thickens, stirring
    constantly with a wooden spoon to prevent sticking. Transfer custard
    to a bowl, and allow to cool, stirring from time to time.
    Preheat oven to 400 degrees F (200 degrees C). Roll out the puff
    pastry into a single sheet about 1/2 inch thick; it should be the same
    size as a 17x14 inch baking sheet. Place the pastry onto the baking
    sheet, and [censored] all over with a fork.
    Bake in preheated oven for 28 minutes. Remove from oven, and cool
    pastry on the baking sheet.
    When the pastry has cooled completely, transfer it from the baking
    sheet to a hard surface, and cut lengthwise into three 4 to 5 inches
    wide strips. Spread one strip thickly with custard. Place a second
    strip directly over the first; spread the top evenly with jam. Cover
    with the third strip, and dust with confectioners' sugar. With a very
    sharp knife, cut into 8 rectangular portions.

    Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
    AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

    "If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
    old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
    waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

    -- Duncan Hines

    To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

  6. Goomba38 said:
    MoM said:

    What a horrible murder of a wonderful pastry! Mille-feuilles are made with
    puff pastry.

    Mille-feuilles are a type of pastry consisting of two thin sheets of pastry
    laid on top of each other like a sandwich with jam and cream spread on the
    inside and a thin layer of icing (usually lemon icing) on top.

    The word mille-feuille means thousand leaves in French

    I hear ya. I can imagine a delightful yet less cloyingly sweet dessert
    if made with pastry and pastry cream. Simple and yet elegant.
    But my real question is: how do you pronounce that "feuille" part?
    Goomba (The French Drop Out)

    fwee

  7. On Sat 13 Aug 2005 04:39:03p, MoM wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat 13 Aug 2005 02:06:04p, MoM wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > On Fri 12 Aug 2005 08:22:08p, Carrie Jacques wrote in
    > rec.food.cooking:
    >
    >> Hi everyone,
    >>
    >> This is my first post to the group, and I'm hoping someone may be
    >> able to help.
    >>
    >> My father used to be a manager at Le Biftheque
    >> (http://www.lebiftheque.com) about ten years or so ago, when the
    >> restaurant was in the states (I think they are only in Canada now).
    >> The restaurant has the most wonderful dessert I've ever had, called
    >> Millefeuille. My father cannot remember the recipe for the dessert,
    >> he used to know it by heart but as he's gotten older he can no
    >> longer remember it. His birthday is coming up and I would love to
    >> make it for him, as it was a family favorite of ours when I was
    >> younger.
    >>
    >> I remember some things that were in this dessert: it had two layers
    >> of graham crackers (one bottom layer and one on the top), two layers
    >> of a cream or pudding (yellow and white), a top and on top of the
    >> graham crackers on the top there was white icing drizzled with
    >> chocolate. It looks a lot like a Napoleon but this dessert
    >> definitely tasted a lot different and it was much better. I've
    >> tried to wing it, not follow a specific recipe and make it from
    >> memory, but I always fail miserably.
    >>
    >> If anyone knows how to make this, I would love to have the recipe.
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >> Carrie
    >
    > This seems to be almost exactly what you are looking for.
    >
    > "MILLE FEUILLE"
    > 2 pkgs. vanilla pudding (cook and serve); 1 (6 oz.) and 1 (3.4 oz.)
    > 1 box graham crackers
    > 1 pt. heavy whipping cream
    > 6-8 oz. chocolate chips
    >
    > Layer 9x13 Pyrex dish with graham crackers. Cook pudding according to
    > box directions. Slowly pour pudding over crackers. Cover pudding with
    > graham cracker layer. Beat whipping cream, then cover over graham
    > cracker. Melt chocolate chips, then sprinkle melted chocolate over
    > whipped cream. Chill 1-2 hours before serving.
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    >
    What a horrible murder of a wonderful pastry! Mille-feuilles are made
    with puff pastry.

    Mille-feuilles are a type of pastry consisting of two thin sheets of
    pastry laid on top of each other like a sandwich with jam and cream
    spread on the inside and a thin layer of icing (usually lemon icing)
    on top.

    The word mille-feuille means thousand leaves in French

    Yes, Helen, I know all of that, and I agree. I was just trying to give
    the OP what she was seeking.

    I have eaten and made the original kind and love it.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*

    Oh, Wayne! I wasn't knocking you.... Just the idea of a so called
    "restaurant" serving something like this!

    MoM

    Oh, I know. Seems odd, doesn't it?

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

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  8. "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Sat 13 Aug 2005 02:36:40p, Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    "Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    MoM wrote:

    > What a horrible murder of a wonderful pastry! Mille-feuilles are
    > made with puff pastry.
    >
    > Mille-feuilles are a type of pastry consisting of two thin sheets
    > of
    > pastry laid on top of each other like a sandwich with jam and cream
    > spread on the inside and a thin layer of icing (usually lemon
    > icing)
    > on top.
    >
    > The word mille-feuille means thousand leaves in French

    I hear ya. I can imagine a delightful yet less cloyingly sweet
    dessert
    if made with pastry and pastry cream. Simple and yet elegant.
    But my real question is: how do you pronounce that "feuille" part?
    Goomba (The French Drop Out)

    fueeee

    oh, fooey, yourself! :-)

    Oi! LOL

  9. "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    Quoted message said:


    "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Sat 13 Aug 2005 02:36:40p, Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    "Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > MoM wrote:
    >
    >> What a horrible murder of a wonderful pastry! Mille-feuilles are
    >> made with puff pastry.
    >>
    >> Mille-feuilles are a type of pastry consisting of two thin sheets of
    >> pastry laid on top of each other like a sandwich with jam and cream
    >> spread on the inside and a thin layer of icing (usually lemon icing)
    >> on top.
    >>
    >> The word mille-feuille means thousand leaves in French
    >
    > I hear ya. I can imagine a delightful yet less cloyingly sweet dessert
    > if made with pastry and pastry cream. Simple and yet elegant.
    > But my real question is: how do you pronounce that "feuille" part?
    > Goomba (The French Drop Out)

    fueeee

    oh, fooey, yourself! :-)

    Oi! LOL


    They pronounce "miye feye!. Something like this .
    Cheers
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:
  10. Pandora played the Pronunciation Game:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> I hear ya. I can imagine a delightful yet less cloyingly sweet dessert
    >> if made with pastry and pastry cream. Simple and yet elegant.
    >> But my real question is: how do you pronounce that "feuille" part?
    >> Goomba (The French Drop Out)
    >
    > fueeee

    oh, fooey, yourself! :-)

    Oi! LOL


    They pronounce "miye feye!. Something like this .

    That's close to what I've heard, though to me that second word has always
    sounded like "FWEE-yay".

    Bob

  11. "Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    Quoted message said:

    Pandora played the Pronunciation Game:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>> I hear ya. I can imagine a delightful yet less cloyingly sweet
    >>> dessert
    >>> if made with pastry and pastry cream. Simple and yet elegant.
    >>> But my real question is: how do you pronounce that "feuille" part?
    >>> Goomba (The French Drop Out)
    >>
    >> fueeee
    >
    > oh, fooey, yourself! :-)

    Oi! LOL


    They pronounce "miye feye!. Something like this .

    That's close to what I've heard, though to me that second word has always
    sounded like "FWEE-yay".

    Bob

    Like this is very difficult to pronounce !!!! 🙂)))
    Pandora

    Quoted message said:


  12. "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Sat 13 Aug 2005 04:39:03p, MoM wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Sat 13 Aug 2005 02:06:04p, MoM wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    >
    > "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >> On Fri 12 Aug 2005 08:22:08p, Carrie Jacques wrote in
    >> rec.food.cooking:
    >>
    >>> Hi everyone,
    >>>
    >>> This is my first post to the group, and I'm hoping someone may be
    >>> able to help.
    >>>
    >>> My father used to be a manager at Le Biftheque
    >>> (http://www.lebiftheque.com) about ten years or so ago, when the
    >>> restaurant was in the states (I think they are only in Canada now).
    >>> The restaurant has the most wonderful dessert I've ever had, called
    >>> Millefeuille. My father cannot remember the recipe for the dessert,
    >>> he used to know it by heart but as he's gotten older he can no
    >>> longer remember it. His birthday is coming up and I would love to
    >>> make it for him, as it was a family favorite of ours when I was
    >>> younger.
    >>>
    >>> I remember some things that were in this dessert: it had two layers
    >>> of graham crackers (one bottom layer and one on the top), two layers
    >>> of a cream or pudding (yellow and white), a top and on top of the
    >>> graham crackers on the top there was white icing drizzled with
    >>> chocolate. It looks a lot like a Napoleon but this dessert
    >>> definitely tasted a lot different and it was much better. I've
    >>> tried to wing it, not follow a specific recipe and make it from
    >>> memory, but I always fail miserably.
    >>>
    >>> If anyone knows how to make this, I would love to have the recipe.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks
    >>> Carrie
    >>
    >> This seems to be almost exactly what you are looking for.
    >>
    >> "MILLE FEUILLE"
    >> 2 pkgs. vanilla pudding (cook and serve); 1 (6 oz.) and 1 (3.4 oz.)
    >> 1 box graham crackers
    >> 1 pt. heavy whipping cream
    >> 6-8 oz. chocolate chips
    >>
    >> Layer 9x13 Pyrex dish with graham crackers. Cook pudding according to
    >> box directions. Slowly pour pudding over crackers. Cover pudding with
    >> graham cracker layer. Beat whipping cream, then cover over graham
    >> cracker. Melt chocolate chips, then sprinkle melted chocolate over
    >> whipped cream. Chill 1-2 hours before serving.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    >>
    > What a horrible murder of a wonderful pastry! Mille-feuilles are made
    > with puff pastry.
    >
    > Mille-feuilles are a type of pastry consisting of two thin sheets of
    > pastry laid on top of each other like a sandwich with jam and cream
    > spread on the inside and a thin layer of icing (usually lemon icing)
    > on top.
    >
    > The word mille-feuille means thousand leaves in French
    >
    >

    Yes, Helen, I know all of that, and I agree. I was just trying to give
    the OP what she was seeking.

    I have eaten and made the original kind and love it.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*

    Oh, Wayne! I wasn't knocking you.... Just the idea of a so called
    "restaurant" serving something like this!

    MoM

    Oh, I know. Seems odd, doesn't it?

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*

    Not odd. Disgusting!
    MoM

  13. "Bob" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message
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    | Pandora played the Pronunciation Game:
    |
    | >>>>> I hear ya. I can imagine a delightful yet less cloyingly sweet
    dessert
    | >>>>> if made with pastry and pastry cream. Simple and yet elegant.
    | >>>>> But my real question is: how do you pronounce that "feuille" part?
    | >>>>> Goomba (The French Drop Out)
    | >>>>
    | >>>> fueeee
    | >>>
    | >>> oh, fooey, yourself! :-)
    | >>
    | >> Oi! LOL
    | > They pronounce "miye feye!. Something like this .
    |
    | That's close to what I've heard, though to me that second word has always
    | sounded like "FWEE-yay".
    |
    Ok.. the second word is one syllable. It is hard to write it phonetically
    in English. However, the closest would be mE (long e)l foey.

    Debbie

  14. MoM said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Oh, Wayne! I wasn't knocking you.... Just the idea of a so called
    "restaurant" serving something like this!

    MoM

    Oh, I know. Seems odd, doesn't it?

    Not odd. Disgusting!
    MoM

    I don't thing it sounds disgusting. It's probably pretty good, though that
    might depend on the quality of the pudding that goes into it. My problem with
    it is that real millefeuille is a top rate pastry IMO, and this pudding and
    graham cracker concoction is not even a good imitation of the real thing.

    This sort of cheap knock off reminds me of a complimentary tiramisu we were
    given in a local restaurant as a result of them screwing up my wife's order. It
    was a nice gesture on their part, but I learned not to order tiramisu there. It
    was made with a sponged cake base, which would have been acceptable for that
    dish if it had been a decent sponge cake. Instead of a filling made with
    marscapone cheese, egg s and whipping cream they used a poor quality pastry
    cream. The real travesty was the flavouring. Instead of espresso and rum, they
    used artificial rum flavouring. It was disgusting.

    Another similar type of disappointment would be to order an English trifle and
    get something made with cheap cake, dream whip and jello. It just ain't
    Trifle.

  15. "Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    | MoM wrote:
    |
    | > >>
    | > >> Oh, Wayne! I wasn't knocking you.... Just the idea of a so called
    | > >> "restaurant" serving something like this!
    | > >>
    | > >> MoM
    | > >
    | > > Oh, I know. Seems odd, doesn't it?
    | >
    | >
    | > Not odd. Disgusting!
    | > MoM
    |
    | I don't thing it sounds disgusting. It's probably pretty good, though that
    | might depend on the quality of the pudding that goes into it. My problem
    with
    | it is that real millefeuille is a top rate pastry IMO, and this pudding
    and
    | graham cracker concoction is not even a good imitation of the real thing.

    And one of the recipes called it Canadian Mille Feuilles. This Canadian
    objects! lol

    Debbie

  16. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    MoM said:

    What a horrible murder of a wonderful pastry! Mille-feuilles are made with
    puff pastry.

    Mille-feuilles are a type of pastry consisting of two thin sheets of pastry
    laid on top of each other like a sandwich with jam and cream spread on the
    inside and a thin layer of icing (usually lemon icing) on top.

    Zuppa inglese isn't soup, city chicken isn't chicken, Boston cream pie
    isn't pie, the stuff with elbow macaroni isn't goulash. People give
    fanciful names to dishes The OP wanted to make something nostalgic
    for her dad, she gave a list of the ingredients as well as the name so
    it was clear what she wanted, it doesn't matter what it was called.
    Well, as one of my coworkers is fond of saying, "No good deed goes
    unpunished."

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  17. Debbie said:


    | it is that real millefeuille is a top rate pastry IMO, and this pudding
    and
    | graham cracker concoction is not even a good imitation of the real thing.

    And one of the recipes called it Canadian Mille Feuilles. This Canadian
    objects! lol

    This morning in another news group there was a recipe posted for a great
    Canadian treat.... Nanaimo Bars, and the recipe called for pudding in the
    filling. Yech. That would make them as bad as they type you get at M&Ms or a
    grocery store.

  18. "Curly Sue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    | >> MoM wrote:
    | >>
    | >> > What a horrible murder of a wonderful pastry! Mille-feuilles are
    made with
    | >> > puff pastry.
    | >> >
    | >> > Mille-feuilles are a type of pastry consisting of two thin sheets of
    pastry
    | >> > laid on top of each other like a sandwich with jam and cream spread
    on the
    | >> > inside and a thin layer of icing (usually lemon icing) on top.
    |
    | Zuppa inglese isn't soup, city chicken isn't chicken, Boston cream pie
    | isn't pie, the stuff with elbow macaroni isn't goulash. People give
    | fanciful names to dishes The OP wanted to make something nostalgic
    | for her dad, she gave a list of the ingredients as well as the name so
    | it was clear what she wanted, it doesn't matter what it was called.

    This is true, and I have made dishes that were bastardized copies of
    originals and no where near as good as the original. She was given recipes
    as to what she requested. However, when someone requests a recipe for one
    of the knock-offs, then the conversation will naturally fall to the original
    version. The corollary is also true. When someone requests an original
    version, a high percentage of time you see replies with knock offs and
    discussions then abound as well.

    Debbie

  19. On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 12:13:17 -0400, "Debbie" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Curly Sue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    | >> MoM wrote:
    | >>
    | >> > What a horrible murder of a wonderful pastry! Mille-feuilles are
    made with
    | >> > puff pastry.
    | >> >
    | >> > Mille-feuilles are a type of pastry consisting of two thin sheets of
    pastry
    | >> > laid on top of each other like a sandwich with jam and cream spread
    on the
    | >> > inside and a thin layer of icing (usually lemon icing) on top.
    |
    | Zuppa inglese isn't soup, city chicken isn't chicken, Boston cream pie
    | isn't pie, the stuff with elbow macaroni isn't goulash. People give
    | fanciful names to dishes The OP wanted to make something nostalgic
    | for her dad, she gave a list of the ingredients as well as the name so
    | it was clear what she wanted, it doesn't matter what it was called.

    This is true, and I have made dishes that were bastardized copies of
    originals and no where near as good as the original. She was given recipes
    as to what she requested. However, when someone requests a recipe for one
    of the knock-offs, then the conversation will naturally fall to the original
    version. The corollary is also true. When someone requests an original
    version, a high percentage of time you see replies with knock offs and
    discussions then abound as well.

    Debbie

    Discussions, yes, but it seems a shame that a recipe request has to be
    followed by discussions which would make someone feel bad about asking
    ("murder," "bastardized," "insulting to the real thing." Such
    drama!), particularly a new person. A regular, at least, knows what
    to expect from this crowd.

    Can't we give new people a "One free pass" welcome before piling on
    top of them? It's not like she asked for a "European recipe" 🙂

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  20. On Sun 14 Aug 2005 04:21:02a, MoM wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat 13 Aug 2005 04:39:03p, MoM wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > On Sat 13 Aug 2005 02:06:04p, MoM wrote in rec.food.cooking:
    >
    >>
    >> "Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email hidden]...
    >>> On Fri 12 Aug 2005 08:22:08p, Carrie Jacques wrote in
    >>> rec.food.cooking:
    >>>
    >>>> Hi everyone,
    >>>>
    >>>> This is my first post to the group, and I'm hoping someone may be
    >>>> able to help.
    >>>>
    >>>> My father used to be a manager at Le Biftheque
    >>>> (http://www.lebiftheque.com) about ten years or so ago, when the
    >>>> restaurant was in the states (I think they are only in Canada
    >>>> now). The restaurant has the most wonderful dessert I've ever had,
    >>>> called Millefeuille. My father cannot remember the recipe for the
    >>>> dessert, he used to know it by heart but as he's gotten older he
    >>>> can no longer remember it. His birthday is coming up and I would
    >>>> love to make it for him, as it was a family favorite of ours when
    >>>> I was younger.
    >>>>
    >>>> I remember some things that were in this dessert: it had two
    >>>> layers of graham crackers (one bottom layer and one on the top),
    >>>> two layers of a cream or pudding (yellow and white), a top and on
    >>>> top of the graham crackers on the top there was white icing
    >>>> drizzled with chocolate. It looks a lot like a Napoleon but this
    >>>> dessert definitely tasted a lot different and it was much better.
    >>>> I've tried to wing it, not follow a specific recipe and make it
    >>>> from memory, but I always fail miserably.
    >>>>
    >>>> If anyone knows how to make this, I would love to have the recipe.
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks
    >>>> Carrie
    >>>
    >>> This seems to be almost exactly what you are looking for.
    >>>
    >>> "MILLE FEUILLE"
    >>> 2 pkgs. vanilla pudding (cook and serve); 1 (6 oz.) and 1 (3.4 oz.)
    >>> 1 box graham crackers
    >>> 1 pt. heavy whipping cream
    >>> 6-8 oz. chocolate chips
    >>>
    >>> Layer 9x13 Pyrex dish with graham crackers. Cook pudding according
    >>> to box directions. Slowly pour pudding over crackers. Cover pudding
    >>> with graham cracker layer. Beat whipping cream, then cover over
    >>> graham cracker. Melt chocolate chips, then sprinkle melted
    >>> chocolate over whipped cream. Chill 1-2 hours before serving.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    >>>
    >> What a horrible murder of a wonderful pastry! Mille-feuilles are
    >> made with puff pastry.
    >>
    >> Mille-feuilles are a type of pastry consisting of two thin sheets of
    >> pastry laid on top of each other like a sandwich with jam and cream
    >> spread on the inside and a thin layer of icing (usually lemon icing)
    >> on top.
    >>
    >> The word mille-feuille means thousand leaves in French
    >>
    >>
    >
    > Yes, Helen, I know all of that, and I agree. I was just trying to
    > give the OP what she was seeking.
    >
    > I have eaten and made the original kind and love it.
    >
    > --
    > Wayne Boatwright *¿*

    Oh, Wayne! I wasn't knocking you.... Just the idea of a so called
    "restaurant" serving something like this!

    MoM

    Oh, I know. Seems odd, doesn't it?

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*

    Not odd. Disgusting!
    MoM

    LOL! I understand, but there are probably a fair number of people who may
    not have had the real thing and would find this combination to their
    tastes. They're really two quite different desserts sharing a name, if
    not accurate for one. As I've said, I personally would not like it and I
    know you would not.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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