Trousers

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Having recently completed decent length Country walk first part of which
dampish and second part with soggy jeans realise that jeans aren't the best
for such.
Any recommendations for more appropriate trousers?

Anything made of polyamide rather than cotton, since polyamide dries
quickly and isn't too heavy even when wet.
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Any recommendations for more appropriate trousers?

Anything made of polyamide rather than cotton, since polyamide dries
quickly and isn't too heavy even when wet.

Actually, my walking trousers (zip offs) are 65% polyester 35% cotton
and dry very quickly. (Peter Storm about £25 IIRC). I think they are
great.

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More or less anything that's mostly synthetic fibre (typically
polyester) will tend to do the job, because they won't hold water in
the same way as pure cotton (e.g. your jeans).

Back in 1986 I got a pair of Adidas track / running trousers, and have
worn them on pretty much every major walk since. They are getting
distinctly breezy in certain areas now, so have just recently invested
in a pair of Ronhill Tracksters. Haven't used them in anger yet, but
I'm sure they'll do the job nicely. I like having trousers that fit
fairly close (I hesitate to use words like 'leggings', but...) so that
I have lots of freedom of movement on scrambly sections, big steps,
etc., while some people might prefer a looser fit more in the mould of
the walking trousers you'll find in most outdoor shops.

Either style will do fine for not holding moisture, so it's just a
question of preference after that. Except that the tight-fitting
variety will sit more easily beneath a pair of waterproof overtrousers.

Colin

More or less anything that's mostly synthetic fibre (typically
polyester) will tend to do the job, because they won't hold water in
the same way as pure cotton (e.g. your jeans).

Back in 1986 I got a pair of Adidas track / running trousers, and have
worn them on pretty much every major walk since. They are getting
distinctly breezy in certain areas now, so have just recently invested
in a pair of Ronhill Tracksters. Haven't used them in anger yet, but
I'm sure they'll do the job nicely. I like having trousers that fit
fairly close (I hesitate to use words like 'leggings', but...) so that
I have lots of freedom of movement on scrambly sections, big steps,
etc., while some people might prefer a looser fit more in the mould of
the walking trousers you'll find in most outdoor shops.

Either style will do fine for not holding moisture, so it's just a
question of preference after that. Except that the tight-fitting
variety will sit more easily beneath a pair of waterproof overtrousers.

Colin

Following up to John Smith

Quoted message said:

Having recently completed decent length Country walk first part of which
dampish and second part with soggy jeans realise that jeans aren't the best
for such.
Any recommendations for more appropriate trousers?

synthetics, tracksters, or the close woven thin cotton cloth
people like Rohan use, light, wind proof, quick drying.
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Fran said:

Anything made of polyamide

Wassat ? Is that a name for a class of man made fibres like Nylon and
Polyester which are what my trousers are made of ? I quick Google
didn't give me a quick answer <g> !

Daytona

Fran said:

Anything made of polyamide

Wassat ? Is that a name for a class of man made fibres like Nylon and
Polyester which are what my trousers are made of ? I quick Google
didn't give me a quick answer <g> !

Daytona

John Smith said:

Having recently completed decent length Country walk first part of which
dampish and second part with soggy jeans realise that jeans aren't the best
for such.

Jeans are made of cotton which absorbs and holds water, you want
something that doesn't. I use Mountain Hardwear Convertible Pack Pants
which are superbly comfortable, but not suitable for long/heavy wet
weather. I'm going to replace these with Paramo Viento Zip Offs. The
Paramo Cascada are also highly rated. See
<URL:http://www.paramo.co.uk/UK/acatalog/Warmth,Windproofing&Waterproofing-16.html>

In the past I've also used Army surplus Goretex overtrousers which are
too heavy and hot.

Search for previous posts in the following -

<URL:http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/forum/forumthreads/mps/dt/4/URN/5/V/7/SP/590148384674536955536>
<URL:http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.walking?hl=en>

Also see the user ratings and reviews on OutdoorsMagic.

hth

Daytona

I'd second this. My Peter Storm ones dry quicker and are more resilient
than the more expensive rohan ones.

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following:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Any recommendations for more appropriate trousers?

Anything made of polyamide rather than cotton, since polyamide dries
quickly and isn't too heavy even when wet.

Actually, my walking trousers (zip offs) are 65% polyester 35% cotton
and dry very quickly. (Peter Storm about £25 IIRC). I think they are
great.

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Geoff Berrow said:

I noticed that Message-ID:
<[email hidden]> from Fran contained the
following:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Any recommendations for more appropriate trousers?

Anything made of polyamide rather than cotton, since polyamide dries
quickly and isn't too heavy even when wet.

Actually, my walking trousers (zip offs) are 65% polyester 35% cotton
and dry very quickly. (Peter Storm about £25 IIRC). I think they are
great.

Polyester Poly/Cotton (provided its more poly than cotton and Nylon
(aka Polyamide) make good walking trews. My faves are Rohan Uplanders.
However I can't tell you what they are made of as writing on the the
info label has all washed off :-(

The thing with trousers is that the best ones are ones that fit. It's
less crucial than boots but you still want to be comfy.

--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Daytona said:

Jeans are made of cotton which absorbs and holds water, you want
something that doesn't.

Thobut there's cotton and there's cotton, and there are cotton
mixes. While denim is hopeless there are close woven cotton based
fabrics that are fine.

Having said that, I personally find track suit bottoms, notably
Ronhill Tracksters, are the way to go. Much better freedom of
movement than most "walking trousers", lighter, hold less water and
dry faster.

The current TGO has reviews of walking trousers, I believe.

Pete.
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wonderful person Geoff Berrow <[email hidden]> said

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following:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Any recommendations for more appropriate trousers?

Anything made of polyamide rather than cotton, since polyamide dries
quickly and isn't too heavy even when wet.

Actually, my walking trousers (zip offs) are 65% polyester 35% cotton
and dry very quickly. (Peter Storm about £25 IIRC). I think they are
great.

Except, if they are like the pair I bought 3 months ago, the (blue)
fabric fades at different rates on the knees, bum, etc. and the whole
things winds up looking like grubby patchwork in very short order. The
(slightly more expensive) Regatta ones lasted much better. (The knee
areas are re-inforced with extra fabric, and it obviously isn't the same
stuff as the main body of the trousers).

Of course, if you don't wash them .....

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John Smith said:

Having recently completed decent length Country walk first part of which
dampish and second part with soggy jeans realise that jeans aren't the best
for such.
Any recommendations for more appropriate trousers?
Thanks,

Hi John,

See this month's TGO for a comparative review of men's walking
trousers.

Best wishes,
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Peewiglet <[email hidden]> writes

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Hi John,

See this month's TGO for a comparative review of men's walking
trousers.

They are all useless, because they are all long enough for 7 foot
giants, and if I shorten them the patch pockets hang over my knees.

Which reminds me - I haven't seen a post from Bill Grey for quite a
while.
I hope he's ok, Fran?
--
Gordon Harris

Following up to Peter Clinch

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Having said that, I personally find track suit bottoms, notably
Ronhill Tracksters, are the way to go.

Patagonia cool tights are even better but expensive and hard to
get. You also look a plonker in the pub, literally.
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nickl said:

Don't agree with you there re: Ronhills. I used to wear these a lot
but whenevr they got wet they became quite heavy and bagged down around
the knees

For certain values of "wet". If it's a real downpour, yes, but then
there's always the overtrousers. I see elsewhere you use u-fleece
sloppets. Much as I'm a great fan of U-fleece these are only immune to
the same problem because of the shoulder straps: wear some braces with
the Rons and you'll get the same effect, and won't overheat so much in
summer. More freedom of movement in the tracksters too, coz u-fleece is
completely non-stretchy.

When it's colder I use ME Powerfleece tights rather than Tracksters (and
also use these for paddling). They dry very quickly because they're
right up against the heat of the body. They're available ina salopette
version, which I'd sooner use than the U-fleece equivalents.

Pete.
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Rob Devereux said:

I'd second this. My Peter Storm ones dry quicker and are more resilient
than the more expensive rohan ones.

My Peter Storm seem to get wet relatively quickly but dry very fast.

Following up to Peter Clinch

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When it's colder I use ME Powerfleece tights rather than Tracksters (and
also use these for paddling). They dry very quickly because they're
right up against the heat of the body. They're available ina salopette
version, which I'd sooner use than the U-fleece equivalents.

I think the "close up to skin" is important, I use Patagonia
salopette fleece romper suit in winter, because its against the
skin light rain evaporates and heavy rain doesn't give that wet
cold flappy material feel. I only put on overtrousers if there
are hours of rain to go.
Pub cred?
If you are a hard man of the hills like me you will look cool.
But then I always do. On the Thames path people will ask where
you pram is.
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Peewiglet <[email hidden]> writes

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Hi John,

See this month's TGO for a comparative review of men's walking
trousers.

They are all useless, because they are all long enough for 7 foot giants,
and if I shorten them the patch pockets hang over my knees.

Aha, my problem precisely. I have some old Lowe lightweight trousers I used
to wear for rock climbing which actually fit and are fine in warm to cool
weather. When it gets cold / windy, the privates suffer a bit so it's long
johns underneath or some equally old Calange fleecy tights instead.

Of course the length problem gets worse if you want something a bit fancy -
side zips, cuffs, etc. You can't take them up anyway. Speaking of which,
anyone got any experience of:
Patagonia Guide pants
Montane Terra pants

Or any other similar?

Roy.