Getting to Richmond

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Hi all,

After the rain desaster last year, I'm going to do another part of
the C2C together with another young friend 🙂

As there's just five days left for walking this year, I plan to do
the C2C's middle section again, starting in Richmond and aiming for
Kirkby Stephen (and maybe beyond, but don't tell my companion yet).

We'll arrive at Newcastle airport on Aug 1st. Now, what's the best
way to get to Richmond then? By train to Darlington and then by Arriva
to Richmond, I suppose - or is there a better way?

After a bit of googling : United buses, Arriva and Stagecoach run buses
between Darlington and Richmond. I don't know yet of a bus service between
Newcastle and Darlington (or even Richmond) but the A1 gets close to D. and
R. so it could be a possibility.

--
Theo
www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

I suspect thats the best route. You can use the North East journey planner
at http://www.traveline.org.uk/index.htm to give you the best journey
according to your time and place of arrival.

Martin

"Volker Gringmuth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi all,

After the rain desaster last year, I'm going to do another part of
the C2C together with another young friend 🙂

As there's just five days left for walking this year, I plan to do
the C2C's middle section again, starting in Richmond and aiming for
Kirkby Stephen (and maybe beyond, but don't tell my companion yet).

We'll arrive at Newcastle airport on Aug 1st. Now, what's the best
way to get to Richmond then? By train to Darlington and then by Arriva
to Richmond, I suppose - or is there a better way?

vG

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~~~~~~ Volker Gringmuth ~~~~~~~~~~~ http://einklich.net/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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theo <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

After the rain desaster last year, I'm going to do another part of
the C2C together with another young friend 🙂

As there's just five days left for walking this year, I plan to do
the C2C's middle section again, starting in Richmond and aiming for
Kirkby Stephen (and maybe beyond, but don't tell my companion yet).

We'll arrive at Newcastle airport on Aug 1st. Now, what's the best
way to get to Richmond then? By train to Darlington and then by Arriva
to Richmond, I suppose - or is there a better way?

After a bit of googling : United buses, Arriva and Stagecoach run buses
between Darlington and Richmond. I don't know yet of a bus service between
Newcastle and Darlington (or even Richmond) but the A1 gets close to D. and
R. so it could be a possibility.

A couple of years ago i went by Bus from Darlington to Richmond.
Bus stop was within 100 yards from the station -and bus goes to the
square at Richmond.

Get to Darlington however you like - I prefer rail.

At Darlington rail station, head for the town centre. The Richmond buses
(27, 27X) leave from West Row next to the covered market (the building
with the clocktower). I think that some 27's actually pass by the
railway station, but there is definitely more choice from the town
centre. It is a frequent service (about half-hourly).

From the rail station, it is about 400-600m and it is possible to get to
the town centre either:
1. down the steps through the passage under the tracks. This brings you
out on Victoria Road. Follow the road downhill, then at the roundabout
turn left along a dual carriageway to find a pedestrian crossing. Cross
and head for the clocktower.

2. avoid the steps and leave the rail station by the main exit. This
brings you to the junction with Parkgate (you will be between 2 rail
bridges over the road). Follow Parkgate downhill, to a roundabout, then
find a pedestrian crossing over the dual carriageway. Cross and head up
the hill towards the clocktower.

If you get to Darlington by bus, you get off in the town centre, so it
is not necessary to find the rail station in order to follow these
directions...

If you need to buy gas canisters, There's a shop in the covered market
block (Millet's), but you can almost certainly get gas in Richmond -
there's a shop in Finkle Street that sells outdoor stuff.

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theo <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

After the rain desaster last year, I'm going to do another part of
the C2C together with another young friend 🙂

As there's just five days left for walking this year, I plan to do
the C2C's middle section again, starting in Richmond and aiming for
Kirkby Stephen (and maybe beyond, but don't tell my companion yet).

We'll arrive at Newcastle airport on Aug 1st. Now, what's the best
way to get to Richmond then? By train to Darlington and then by Arriva
to Richmond, I suppose - or is there a better way?

After a bit of googling : United buses, Arriva and Stagecoach run buses
between Darlington and Richmond. I don't know yet of a bus service between
Newcastle and Darlington (or even Richmond) but the A1 gets close to D. and
R. so it could be a possibility.

A couple of years ago i went by Bus from Darlington to Richmond.
Bus stop was within 100 yards from the station -and bus goes to the
square at Richmond.

--
John Mansell john at wcompsys dot co dot uk

I'm assuming that you'll have to organize a journey back to Newcastle,
so here goes,

Getting out of Kirkby Stephen could be an interesting exercise. There
are, I think, 4 trains a day to Carlisle. Then continue by train to
Newcastle. Same number per day to Leeds (then Newcastle via
Darlington). It may seem stupid to go via Leeds , but there may very
well be no overall time penalty, since the Carlisle-Newcastle line is
sloooooow (also, uncomfortable coaches - no room for rucksack stowage).

Kirkby Stephen station is about 2km outside the town up a hill (don't
tell your companion).

Alternatively, you could try the bus (Darlington via Barnard Castle). I
don't like this, because it involves several bus companies. Anyway:

http://www.traveline.org.uk/index.htm

Grand Prix Coaches, Hodgson's, & Arriva North East.

Beware, you can get some crazy responses to queries. The site can be
infuriating to use. You seem to need multiple clicks to progress from
one form to the next.

If you are going on from there, the next point I know that is on bus
routes is Shap (another 20 miles or so, but don't tell your companion).
There are a few buses a day (not many) to Penrith. The buses go to the
bus station, so I think you'll have to walk up the hill to the rail
station, then you can travel back to Newcastle via Carlisle.

In message <[email hidden]>, Volker Gringmuth
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Quoted message said:

Hi all,

After the rain desaster last year, I'm going to do another part of
the C2C together with another young friend 🙂

As there's just five days left for walking this year, I plan to do
the C2C's middle section again, starting in Richmond and aiming for
Kirkby Stephen (and maybe beyond, but don't tell my companion yet).

We'll arrive at Newcastle airport on Aug 1st. Now, what's the best
way to get to Richmond then? By train to Darlington and then by Arriva
to Richmond, I suppose - or is there a better way?

vG

--
John Mansell john at wcompsys dot co dot uk

John Mansell said:

Getting out of Kirkby Stephen could be an interesting exercise.
There are, I think, 4 trains a day to Carlisle. Then continue by
train to Newcastle. Same number per day to Leeds (then Newcastle
via Darlington). It may seem stupid to go via Leeds , but there
may very well be no overall time penalty, since the
Carlisle-Newcastle line is sloooooow (also, uncomfortable coaches
- no room for rucksack stowage).

That's interesting, since the Southern route is a beautiful journey ...
I went to KS in 1996 by train from Manchester via Leeds, the train
route Settle-Carlisle was very small then and run by an even smaller
company (IIRC).

Quoted message said:

Kirkby Stephen station is about 2km outside the town up a hill
(don't tell your companion).

Been there, done that 🙂

Quoted message said:

If you are going on from there, the next point I know that is on
bus routes is Shap (another 20 miles or so, but don't tell your
companion).

I don't think we're going that far anyway, and I'd surely like to go
the "right" direction, starting in Kirkby Stephen. Arrival on Monday,
some shorter walk-about on Tuesday for him to get into it (have a
glance at Smardale Bridge, for instance), via Nine Standards to Keld on
Wednesday, Thursday to Reeth, Friday to Richmond ... hmmm, sounds
somewhat relaxed 🙂

Rail link to Kirkby Stephen doesn't seem as bad as from there,
according to the National Rail Enquiries:

NEWCASTLE 12:39
CARLISLE 13:56 14:26
KIRKBY STEPHEN 15:21

NEWCASTLE 13:24
CARLISLE 14:43 15:08
KIRKBY STEPHEN 15:57

Sounds good for me.

vG

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~~~~~~ Volker Gringmuth ~~~~~~~~~~~ http://einklich.net/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Was machen [die heutigen Menschen] mit ihrem Wissen: Blaue Gurken mit Erdbeer-
geschmack und eine Welt, in der die Bomben intelligenter sind als die
Präsidenten." (Jörn Abatz in de.talk.tagesgeschehen)

Volker Gringmuth said:

After the rain desaster last year, I'm going to do another part of
the C2C together with another young friend 🙂

Thanks for all advice. Just to keep the feeling, here's a brief
summary:

Arrived at Stansted Airport on time but missed the check-in to
Newcastle by six minutes (had taken hours until the first piece of
baggage finally appeared), so we went on by train via Peterborough and
Leeds to Kirkby Stephen (which after all was much cheaper than the
flight, for a friendly officer suggested us to buy a Family Railcard).
Made ourselves comfortable at the camp site.

Tuesday: Walked to Smardale Bridge and back - in order to both wake up
my walking muscles again and see if Florian has got any at all 🙂
Weather was fine.

Wednesday: Heavy clouds (after rain in the night), but seemed to clear
up, so we left for the Standards. Turned out to be a fine but windy day
- it nearly blew us off the Rigg. Florian found it hard to climb the
last few metres of height (the path really looks steep after the narrow
footbridge) but saw that he had to 🙂 Arrived at Park House camp site
just as the first shower was about to reach us. Florian found the
walking over the moor very hard and was glad to find a solid road at
Ravenseat.

Thursday: Warden said the forecast was bad. Clouds looked heavy but
dry, so I decided to take the upper route to Reeth and in the worst
case descend into Swaledale along Gunnerside Gill. Our braveness scared
the weather so it kept us dry, raining all around the spot where we
were. Reached Reeth after a fine day - but it was impossible to get
Florian on his feet again that evening once he had fallen down into our
tent.

Friday: Told Florian that this day's walk to Richmond was just a little
stroll, compared to the day before. Had to push him every mile then
because he understood that literally - but, after all, eleven miles are
eleven miles even if they're easy to walk. Went from Richmond on to
Brompton and fell into the friendly seats of the Camping Barn.

Saturday: Rest. Florian promised not to leave his bed but broke his
promise because he loves animals 🙂

Sunday: Walk to Richmond, Bus to Darlington, Train to Newcastle,
Flights to Stansted and Stuttgart. It would have been cheaper and
quicker to go by train from Darlington to Stansted, considering all the
sitting and queueing and waiting at the airport, but Florian preferred
to fly one more time - well, he had not been on a plane until last
week.

For me it was a too-short bit of the Wainwright feeling but for Florian
it was great (and enough of walking), so it was a fine holiday after
all and compensates for last year's weather.

vG

--
~~~~~~ Volker Gringmuth ~~~~~~~~~~~ http://einklich.net/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"SPAM ist Mehrzahl - wär's Einzahl, wär's kein SPAM."
(Harald Effenberg in dnq)

Volker Gringmuth said:

After the rain desaster last year, I'm going to do another part of
the C2C together with another young friend 🙂

Thanks for all advice. Just to keep the feeling, here's a brief
summary:

Arrived at Stansted Airport on time but missed the check-in to
Newcastle by six minutes (had taken hours until the first piece of
baggage finally appeared), so we went on by train via Peterborough and
Leeds to Kirkby Stephen (which after all was much cheaper than the
flight, for a friendly officer suggested us to buy a Family Railcard).
Made ourselves comfortable at the camp site.

Tuesday: Walked to Smardale Bridge and back - in order to both wake up
my walking muscles again and see if Florian has got any at all 🙂
Weather was fine.

Wednesday: Heavy clouds (after rain in the night), but seemed to clear
up, so we left for the Standards. Turned out to be a fine but windy day
- it nearly blew us off the Rigg. Florian found it hard to climb the
last few metres of height (the path really looks steep after the narrow
footbridge) but saw that he had to 🙂 Arrived at Park House camp site
just as the first shower was about to reach us. Florian found the
walking over the moor very hard and was glad to find a solid road at
Ravenseat.

Thursday: Warden said the forecast was bad. Clouds looked heavy but
dry, so I decided to take the upper route to Reeth and in the worst
case descend into Swaledale along Gunnerside Gill. Our braveness scared
the weather so it kept us dry, raining all around the spot where we
were. Reached Reeth after a fine day - but it was impossible to get
Florian on his feet again that evening once he had fallen down into our
tent.

Friday: Told Florian that this day's walk to Richmond was just a little
stroll, compared to the day before. Had to push him every mile then
because he understood that literally - but, after all, eleven miles are
eleven miles even if they're easy to walk. Went from Richmond on to
Brompton and fell into the friendly seats of the Camping Barn.

Saturday: Rest. Florian promised not to leave his bed but broke his
promise because he loves animals 🙂

Sunday: Walk to Richmond, Bus to Darlington, Train to Newcastle,
Flights to Stansted and Stuttgart. It would have been cheaper and
quicker to go by train from Darlington to Stansted, considering all the
sitting and queueing and waiting at the airport, but Florian preferred
to fly one more time - well, he had not been on a plane until last
week.

For me it was a too-short bit of the Wainwright feeling but for Florian
it was great (and enough of walking), so it was a fine holiday after
all and compensates for last year's weather.

vG

--
~~~~~~ Volker Gringmuth ~~~~~~~~~~~ http://einklich.net/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"SPAM ist Mehrzahl - wär's Einzahl, wär's kein SPAM."
(Harald Effenberg in dnq)