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West Virginia?????

Info. · 2003-07-30T12:30:47+00:00

From what I hear, there was some water onboard for a time, but I think they have bailed enough out and righted the ship. IMO, their ship was too big w/ keeping the elite squad. Can they keep the holes plugged?? Good results at Downers Grove would certainly help. "Alan Atwood" wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]... Noticed this weekend that a couple of West Virginia riders were listed in the results with their previous squads. Is this the first ship from the new D3 fleet to sink? Anybody have any info? Alan

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Info.
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30 July 2003, 12:30 UTC #1

From what I hear, there was some water onboard for a time, but I think they have bailed enough out
and righted the ship. IMO, their ship was too big w/ keeping the elite squad.
Can they keep the holes plugged?? Good results at Downers Grove would certainly help.
"Alan Atwood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Noticed this weekend that a couple of West Virginia riders were listed in the results with their
previous squads. Is this the first ship from the new D3 fleet to sink? Anybody have any info?
Alan

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Marilyn
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30 July 2003, 12:30 UTC #2

Check out the Wendy's pictures and results on cyclingnews. The WVA pro and elite teams were there
enmasse and with results. Paul Martin and several others raced well at Superweek as well, Paul was
very high in the overall rankings there before he left to do Murrysville and Wendy's. The riders who
want to ride for WVA are riding. Many D3's were at Superweek.
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Noticed this weekend that a couple of West Virginia riders were listed in the results with their
previous squads. Is this the first ship from the new D3 fleet to sink? Anybody have any info?
Alan

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Andy Coggan
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30 July 2003, 12:31 UTC #3

"Marilyn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The riders who want to ride for WVA are riding.
But the real question is, are they getting paid?
Andy Coggan

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Alan Atwood
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30 July 2003, 14:58 UTC #4

Noticed this weekend that a couple of West Virginia riders were listed in the results with their
previous squads. Is this the first ship from the new D3 fleet to sink? Anybody have any info?
Alan

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Marilyn
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31 July 2003, 04:01 UTC #5

You'd have to hear from them. I believe some are getting monthly checks... Other than Saturn who
should not be a D3, I don't think anyone is getting rich riding bikes in the states. It would be
great if we could change that.
"Andy Coggan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The riders who want to ride for WVA are riding.
But the real question is, are they getting paid?
Andy Coggan

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Andy Coggan
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31 July 2003, 12:03 UTC #6

"Marilyn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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But the real question is, are they getting paid?
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The riders who want to ride for WVA are riding.
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You'd have to hear from them. I believe some are getting monthly checks... Other than Saturn who
should not be a D3, I don't think anyone is getting rich riding bikes in the states. It would be
great if we could change that.
I guess I should have been more explicit: are they they getting paid *on time/as expected*? Rumor
has it that they aren't.
Andy Coggan

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Wade Summers
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31 July 2003, 13:21 UTC #7

"Marilyn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You'd have to hear from them. I believe some are getting monthly checks... Other than Saturn who
should not be a D3, I don't think anyone is getting rich riding bikes in the states. It would be
great if we could change that.
I had reported here on RBR about 6 weeks ago on a conversation I heard after a race here in New
England. A rider asked one of the WV boys how it was going and he said that "it wasn't". They hadn't
been paid since April and they had filed a complaint with USA Cycling / USPro. I then noticed that
although they still wore WV clothing in the following races, they're BikeReg team names were made-up
names, F.A.R.T., for example. Then this past weekend, as Alan pointed out, they were back in their
regional team garb.
If "some" are getting monthly checks, that's great. But shouldn't they ALL be getting monthly
checks. Doesn't constitute a D3 team if they are not, right?
Wade

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Bob Schwartz
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31 July 2003, 14:54 UTC #8

Andy Coggan said:
"Marilyn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The riders who want to ride for WVA are riding.
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But the real question is, are they getting paid?
Aren't they getting the prevailing TT3 wage?
Bob Schwartz [email hidden]

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Gopher
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31 July 2003, 19:21 UTC #9

info. said:

........ and a new navy blue/yellow for the pro. Quite a nice kit, I might add.
did they have to pay for their own clothing? or is that considered an additional benefit? ;o)
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Wade Summers
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31 July 2003, 21:01 UTC #10

"info." <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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What is "regional garb?"
You do realize that they have two seperate teams, a PRO team and an ELITE AMATEUR team for
developing younger riders. They have seperate team kits

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both -- the green/yellow (similar to last year) for the elite and a new

navy
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blue/yellow for the pro. Quite a nice kit, I might add.
I mean their former teams, Wheelworks and Trek/VW.
Funny how you say they have an Elite Amateur Team and a Pro team. Seems to me like they are both
Elite Amateur teams...
Wade

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Ryan Barrett
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1 August 2003, 17:49 UTC #11

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Aren't they getting the prevailing TT3 wage?
You mean the monthly kick in the balls??
Ben, you're not supposed to comment on your own team. Love, RB

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Ronaldo Jeremia
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1 August 2003, 20:41 UTC #12

[email hidden] (Marilyn) wrote in message
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You'd have to hear from them. I believe some are getting monthly checks... Other than Saturn who
should not be a D3, I don't think anyone is getting rich riding bikes in the states. It would be
great if we could change that.
Why would that be 'great?'
-RJ

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Chris
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1 August 2003, 23:40 UTC #13

Actually Bob, sounds like that's what they are getting...that being nothing. I don't think D3 riders
need to be paid a minimum wage. I think the DI teams are set at something like 40,000 euro. CH
Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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The riders who want to ride for WVA are riding.
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But the real question is, are they getting paid?
Aren't they getting the prevailing TT3 wage?
Bob Schwartz [email hidden]

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Kurgan Gringion
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2 August 2003, 01:00 UTC #14

"Ryan Barrett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Aren't they getting the prevailing TT3 wage?
You mean the monthly kick in the balls??
Ben, you're not supposed to comment on your own team.
Dear Receiver of the Monthly-kcik-in-the-balls -
Didn't you just do that? (comment on your own team)

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K. J. Papai
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5 August 2003, 22:34 UTC #15

"Andy Coggan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Marilyn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The riders who want to ride for WVA are riding.
But the real question is, are they getting paid?
Andy Coggan
I was wrong -- Coggan is NOT boring.
-Ken

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Tom Arsenault
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7 August 2003, 19:03 UTC #16

[email hidden] (K. J. Papai) wrote in message
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"Andy Coggan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Marilyn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The riders who want to ride for WVA are riding.
But the real question is, are they getting paid?
Andy Coggan
I was wrong -- Coggan is NOT boring.
-Ken
I was just wondering if Mike Jones is ever going to race again this season? Seems as though he's
been "absent" since Fitchburg. Just wondering.
Tom

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Chris
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8 August 2003, 00:54 UTC #17

I heard he was sick; or maybe he's just really hungry from not being paid...
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> The riders who want to ride for WVA are riding.
But the real question is, are they getting paid?
Andy Coggan
I was wrong -- Coggan is NOT boring.
-Ken
I was just wondering if Mike Jones is ever going to race again this season? Seems as though he's
been "absent" since Fitchburg. Just wondering.
Tom

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