"Werehatrack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:47:00 GMT, C Wright
wright9_nojunk@nojunk_mac.com said:
The latest issue of Bicycling Magazine (Sept. 2005) has a review of a Pinarello F4:13 and, among many other things, they comment that "it's also one of the sharpest-cornering bikes we've ever ridden - your could practically rub your hip on the road and not worry about blowing a turn." That got me to wondering if, by design, one bike can really corner better than another and, if so, why? If cheap entry level bikes are excluded and the comparison is limited to bikes with high quality aluminum, carbon or Ti frames and a reasonably good set of wheels why would one bike be able to corner better than another? Or, would the major factor simply be tire compound?
Tire compound, road surface condition and material, presence of debris, and rider foolhardiness (aka desperation, sometimes called bravado or bravery) are the principal factors that determine cornering speed. The rest is just hype. (Magazines are often driven by hype.)
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I interpret the OP's question as having more to do with quickness of steering, rather than the sheer speed with which a corner can be taken. I know many people make it a point to debunk myths on here, but there are definitely bikes with quicker handling that can take a corner with razor-like precision at the slightest nudge. This is not hype.
By the way, I wouldn't relegate steel frames to entry-level bikes as the OP did!
Didn't you get the memo? Yes, steel frames are heavy and old technology. Nobody would attempt a performance frame out of steel anymore, except some fashionable boutique outfits like Waterford, and mossbacks such as Eisentraut, Litton, or Sachs.
"Michael Press" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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In article <[email hidden]>,
Pete said:
"Werehatrack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:47:00 GMT, C Wright <wright9_nojunk@nojunk_mac.com> wrote:
>The latest issue of Bicycling Magazine (Sept. 2005) has a review of a >Pinarello F4:13 and, among many other things, they comment that "it's >also >one of the sharpest-cornering bikes we've ever ridden - your could >practically rub your hip on the road and not worry about blowing a >turn." >That got me to wondering if, by design, one bike can really corner >better >than another and, if so, why? If cheap entry level bikes are excluded >and >the comparison is limited to bikes with high quality aluminum, carbon >or >Ti >frames and a reasonably good set of wheels why would one bike be able >to >corner better than another? Or, would the major factor simply be tire >compound?
Tire compound, road surface condition and material, presence of debris, and rider foolhardiness (aka desperation, sometimes called bravado or bravery) are the principal factors that determine cornering speed. The rest is just hype. (Magazines are often driven by hype.)
--
I interpret the OP's question as having more to do with quickness of steering, rather than the sheer speed with which a corner can be taken. I know many people make it a point to debunk myths on here, but there are definitely bikes with quicker handling that can take a corner with razor-like precision at the slightest nudge. This is not hype.
By the way, I wouldn't relegate steel frames to entry-level bikes as the OP did!
Didn't you get the memo? Yes, steel frames are heavy and old technology. Nobody would attempt a performance frame out of steel anymore, except some fashionable boutique outfits like Waterford, and mossbacks such as Eisentraut, Litton, or Sachs.
-- Michael Press
Don't forget the likes of Dario Pegoretti!
John
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