Natural Hygiene

"Natural hygeine" should be packing your body with saturated fatty
acids and making sure your cholesterol levels are high, while avoiding
foods that are stressors. This is what the overwhelming body of real
scientific evidencer supports.

montygram said:

"Natural hygeine" should be packing your body with saturated fatty
acids and making sure your cholesterol levels are high, while avoiding
foods that are stressors. This is what the overwhelming body of real
scientific evidencer supports.

Making sure your cholesterol levels are high will upset the
medical establishment.

montygram said:

"Natural hygeine" should be packing your body with saturated fatty
acids and making sure your cholesterol levels are high, while avoiding
foods that are stressors. This is what the overwhelming body of real
scientific evidencer supports.

Making sure your cholesterol levels are high will upset the
medical establishment.

Why don't we let the nice, and very knowledgeable, folks who have
dedicated decades of their lives to the study and *practice* of Natural
Hygiene represent it for themselves?

I think they are best qualified to do so, and I'm right about that.

You will see that, as a matter of course, the way of life. of which the
diet is one part, precludes most of the disease-causing factors that
bring people to doctors' offices.

You do want that. Don't you? Hmmmm? All you MDs out there? You do
want people to be healthy and not pay your mortgages on your lavish
homes anymore. Right??? You do have their best interests at heart.
Don't you??? Of course you do!

Visual Purple said:

Why don't we let the nice, and very knowledgeable, folks who have
dedicated decades of their lives to the study and *practice* of Natural
Hygiene represent it for themselves?

I think they are best qualified to do so, and I'm right about that.

You will see that, as a matter of course, the way of life. of which the
diet is one part, precludes most of the disease-causing factors that
bring people to doctors' offices.

COMMENT:

You can delay many diseases by taking care of yourself, but odds are
good you'll get them eventually anyway. Unless natural hygeine has
discovered a way to stop the aging process?

So we doctors will get our chance at you eventually anyway. You'll just
be a couple of decades older. If you're lucky.

Quoted message said:

You do want that. Don't you? Hmmmm? All you MDs out there? You do
want people to be healthy and not pay your mortgages on your lavish
homes anymore. Right??? You do have their best interests at heart.
Don't you??? Of course you do!

COMMENT:
We do, actually. Like the undertaker, we don't mind waiting a bit, at
all. But like the undertaker, we're pretty unavoidable.

The difference is the undertaker is the last to let you down. 🙂

Your health care provider, giving you optomistic scenarios about how
you're going to get better, is just second-to-last.

SBH

I'll settle for a world in which all physicians are gerontologists.

Thank you *so* much for this response.

I knew that one of you would be stupid enough to show your true colors.

Thank you for showing how you prey on the young and feel no compassion
for those who suffer needlessly for decades.

Thank you for admitting that you act at cross purposes to the best
efforts to keep people well for as long as possible, robbing people of
the fullness of their youth in order to get as much money out of them
as possible.

Thank you for showing your arrogance and disdain toward those who are
paying your mortgage with their health.

It's so easy to catch people who have egos. They always strut right
into the lair spread out before them never seeing it because their nose
is in the air and their Rayban's block their view.

Thank you for alikening yourself to the undertaker. That was an
excellent touch. Your words, not mine.

Excellent example, Stanley. Please do keep them coming.

VP

Visual Purple said:

Natural Hygiene is, quite simply, the ultimate programme for health.

Thank you so much for separating your nonsense, from the noble path of
natural health.
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Quoted message said:

I'll settle for a world in which all physicians are gerontologists.

Thank you *so* much for this response.

I knew that one of you would be stupid enough to show your true colors.

What ever happened to "Negativity is a Sign of Imbalance"?

Quoted message said:

Thank you for showing how you prey on the young and feel no compassion
for those who suffer needlessly for decades.

Thank you for admitting that you act at cross purposes to the best
efforts to keep people well for as long as possible, robbing people of
the fullness of their youth in order to get as much money out of them
as possible.

Thank you for showing your arrogance and disdain toward those who are
paying your mortgage with their health.

It's so easy to catch people who have egos. They always strut right
into the lair spread out before them never seeing it because their nose
is in the air and their Rayban's block their view.

Thank you for alikening yourself to the undertaker. That was an
excellent touch. Your words, not mine.

Excellent example, Stanley. Please do keep them coming.

VP

Its always great to see people with a sense for sarcasm..

Sbharrisatsignix.netcom.com said:

You can delay many diseases by taking care of yourself, ...
You'll just be a couple of decades older. If you're lucky.

Just???

Lucky???

You have my condolences.

Actually, human beings are quite capable of dying without any
assistance from a physician.

Just thought that you might want to know. 🙂

I am speaking about Natural Hygiene, not "natural health".

Please do not attempt to obfuscate matters by confusing the two.

Someone asked: "What ever happened to "Negativity is a Sign of
Imbalance"?"

Holding someone up as an example of what a physician should never be is
not baseless negativity, as is the negativity of some of the posters
here.

It is, rather, a dire warning to people who think that because someone
has an MD after their name they are caring and concerned with people's
health.

I have provided a public service. That is not negative.

Your thanks and appreciation are accepted.

VP :0)

"It is, rather, a dire warning to people who think that because someone
has an MD after their name they are caring and concerned with people's
health.

Instead we are to accept advice from a "colored" source whose
creadibility has at best shakey displayed grounding in science?
I have provided a public service. That is not negative."

Actually, as I've posted here before, Ancel Keys, in his seminal and
often cited magnum opus, "Seven Countries" (1979 book), stated clearly
in this work that the lowest overall mortality was for people who's
cholesterol levels were between 200 and 220, and this was before it was
known that only oxidized cholesterol is dangerous!

Actually, as I've posted here before, Ancel Keys, in his seminal and
often cited magnum opus, "Seven Countries" (1979 book), stated clearly
in this work that the lowest overall mortality was for people who's
cholesterol levels were between 200 and 220, and this was before it was
known that only oxidized cholesterol is dangerous!

Visual Purple said:

I'll settle for a world in which all physicians are gerontologists.

I spent years as a gerontologist. It's just that it was in Utah, where
they really wanted pediatricians. Not recommended.

I spent some time doing diet and aging studies on both animals and
humans at UCLA, where my mentor was Roy Walford. Enough to have a
lasting respect for the role of nutrition in health (I'm a booster for
some of the naturopaths, which makes me a medical heretic), but also
enough to rid myself of any silly ideas that all or even most disease
can be stopped by diet, or that the aging process can be any more than
mildly slowed. Don't let diet be your religion, because it's a god
with feet of clay.

Quoted message said:

Thank you for admitting that you act at cross purposes to the best
efforts to keep people well for as long as possible, robbing people of
the fullness of their youth in order to get as much money out of them
as possible.

Huh?

COMMENT:

Quoted message said:

Thank you for showing your arrogance and disdain toward those who are
paying your mortgage with their health.

COMMENT:
I live in southern California where I'm too poor to have a mortage.
Hope springs eternal, though.

Quoted message said:

It's so easy to catch people who have egos. They always strut right
into the lair spread out before them never seeing it because their nose
is in the air and their Rayban's block their view.

COMMENT:
For sure. Egotistical people rarely realize how egotistical they are.
Indeed, indeed.

Quoted message said:

Thank you for alikening yourself to the undertaker. That was an
excellent touch. Your words, not mine.

COMMENT:
You're welcome. Thank you for disrespecting undertakers. It says a lot
about you.

Quoted message said:

Excellent example, Stanley. Please do keep them coming.

Stanley?

Steve. Unlike you, I use my real name here

SBH

Visual Purple said:

I'll settle for a world in which all physicians are gerontologists.

I spent years as a gerontologist. It's just that it was in Utah, where
they really wanted pediatricians. Not recommended.

I spent some time doing diet and aging studies on both animals and
humans at UCLA, where my mentor was Roy Walford. Enough to have a
lasting respect for the role of nutrition in health (I'm a booster for
some of the naturopaths, which makes me a medical heretic), but also
enough to rid myself of any silly ideas that all or even most disease
can be stopped by diet, or that the aging process can be any more than
mildly slowed. Don't let diet be your religion, because it's a god
with feet of clay.

Quoted message said:

Thank you for admitting that you act at cross purposes to the best
efforts to keep people well for as long as possible, robbing people of
the fullness of their youth in order to get as much money out of them
as possible.

Huh?

COMMENT:

Quoted message said:

Thank you for showing your arrogance and disdain toward those who are
paying your mortgage with their health.

COMMENT:
I live in southern California where I'm too poor to have a mortage.
Hope springs eternal, though.

Quoted message said:

It's so easy to catch people who have egos. They always strut right
into the lair spread out before them never seeing it because their nose
is in the air and their Rayban's block their view.

COMMENT:
For sure. Egotistical people rarely realize how egotistical they are.
Indeed, indeed.

Quoted message said:

Thank you for alikening yourself to the undertaker. That was an
excellent touch. Your words, not mine.

COMMENT:
You're welcome. Thank you for disrespecting undertakers. It says a lot
about you.

Quoted message said:

Excellent example, Stanley. Please do keep them coming.

Stanley?

Steve. Unlike you, I use my real name here

SBH

Hi, Steve:

I wish I could use my real name here, but as we've seen, there are
crazies about.

You wrote: "Don't let diet be your religion, because it's a god
with feet of clay."

I don't. But I would say the very same about science.

Steve:

As I wrote, my husband has been living according to the principles of
Natural Hygiene since he was a boy because his mother put the family on
that diet after she was saved in one of their clinics as a young woman.

You say the aging process cannot be delayed by diet.

Steve, my husband was still doing the exercises he learned in the
Commandoes course until he was in his mid-fifties.

Now, in his mid-sixties he still never takes transportation unless he
is going somewhere more than five miles away. He never takes an
elevator. We live on the ninth floor. He never sits when he can stand.
We live on a mountain and he regularly climbs and goes down to the
valleys. He still climbs trees to bring fresh figs and almonds home.
He had to have a hernia operated on a few years ago. The nurse who
took his blood was amazed at the results that came back. She said that
blood samples like that are almost never seen in practice. The results
were like something out of textbook, she said. When he went to a new
dentist the dentist looked at his teeth and said: You're a veggie.
Right? Shows right away. He's still weighs exactly what he did when he
was drafted - 62 kilos.

I know Natural Hygiene works. I live with it.

TRhat's it!

I am going to just eat candy from now on a watch TV. It doesn't make a
difference anyway!

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Quoted message said:

Visual Purple said:

Why don't we let the nice, and very knowledgeable, folks who have
dedicated decades of their lives to the study and *practice* of Natural
Hygiene represent it for themselves?

I think they are best qualified to do so, and I'm right about that.

You will see that, as a matter of course, the way of life. of which the
diet is one part, precludes most of the disease-causing factors that
bring people to doctors' offices.

COMMENT:

You can delay many diseases by taking care of yourself, but odds are
good you'll get them eventually anyway. Unless natural hygeine has
discovered a way to stop the aging process?

So we doctors will get our chance at you eventually anyway. You'll just
be a couple of decades older. If you're lucky.

Quoted message said:

You do want that. Don't you? Hmmmm? All you MDs out there? You do
want people to be healthy and not pay your mortgages on your lavish
homes anymore. Right??? You do have their best interests at heart.
Don't you??? Of course you do!

COMMENT:
We do, actually. Like the undertaker, we don't mind waiting a bit, at
all. But like the undertaker, we're pretty unavoidable.

The difference is the undertaker is the last to let you down. 🙂

Your health care provider, giving you optomistic scenarios about how
you're going to get better, is just second-to-last.

SBH

montygram said:

Actually, as I've posted here before, Ancel Keys, in his seminal and
often cited magnum opus, "Seven Countries" (1979 book), stated clearly
in this work that the lowest overall mortality was for people who's
cholesterol levels were between 200 and 220, and this was before it was
known that only oxidized cholesterol is dangerous!

COMMENT:

This figure wouldn't mean much without differentiating by sex. Women
tolerate higher total cholesterols due to having higher HDLs. If you
just take a bunch of people and measure their cholesterols and
mortality rates, you'll see a big proxy effect just from the women in
your sample.

It is certainly NOT true that men have the lowest total mortality
between 200 and 220.

SBH